Creationists

[Youwerecreated]

The Genesis creation narrative (or creation myth) in the first two chapters of the Book of Genesis describes the divine creation of the world including the first man and woman. It was a product of the cultural world of the ancient Near East and yet distinctively different, incorporating older Mesopotamian myths, but adapting them to the unique conception of the Hebrew's one God.[1]

Chapter one describes the creation of the world by Elohim (the Hebrew word meaning "God") in six days by means of divine speech culminating in the creation of mankind, then resting on, blessing and sanctifying the seventh day. Chapter two tells of Yahweh (the personal name of the God of Israel) creating the first man from dust, placing him in the Garden of Eden, and forming the first woman Eve, from his side. Robert Alter, professor of Hebrew and comparative literature at the University of California, Berkeley, describes the combined narrative as "compelling in its archetypal character, its adaptation of myth to monotheistic ends."[2]

The common understanding among biblical scholars today is that the first edition of Genesis (and therefore the Genesis creation story) was composed in the late 7th or the 6th century BCE, (the Yahwist source), and that this was later expanded by the addition of various narratives and laws (the Priestly source) into a work very like the present-day book.[3] (The two sources appear in reverse order: Genesis 1 is Priestly and Genesis 2 is Yahwistic). Its over-riding purpose is to establish a monotheistic creation in opposition to the polytheistic creation myth of Israel's historic enemy, Babylon.[4] Professor R.N. Whybray, discussing the themes of Genesis in the Oxford Bible Commentary, writes that the Primeval Narrative (Genesis 1-11), introduces a supreme and single God who creates a world which is "good"; later, mankind will rebel against this God, bringing on the catastrophe of the Flood, to be followed in due course by the more hopeful destiny of a human race blessed through Abraham.[5]



is there any evidence proving this myth is more valid than other creation myths of the world?

There is only one Holy book that claims responsibility for all creation. And that book is the bible and it can be supported by science.

On so many levels,

Honesty test. The bible says ten times kinds bring forth after their own kind does science support this comment in the bible after billions of observations ?

 

[Montrovant]

There is only one Holy book that claims responsibility for all creation. And that book is the bible and it can be supported by science.

On so many levels,

Honesty test. The bible says ten times kinds bring forth after their own kind does science support this comment in the bible after billions of observations ?

Depends on what it means by kind, I would suppose! But generally speaking, yes. Of course, that doesn't really mean the bible is supported by science. I'm sure I could go pick some examples from any number of fiction books, or even probably other holy books, that are accurate.

Also, have you read all the other holy books and know that none of them say their gods are responsible for creation?

Once again,

 

[LOki]

If anything that term applies to you.

clever for an 8th grader not a grandfather, unless the grandfather never got past 8th grade.

When scientific research produces empirical evidence and theoretical conclusions which contradict a literalist creationist interpretation of scripture, creationists often reject the conclusions of the research[17] or its underlying scientific theories[18] or its methodology.[19] The rejection of scientific findings has sparked political and theological controversy.[7] Two offshoots of creationism—creation science and intelligent design—have been characterized as pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community.[20] The most notable disputes concern the evolution of living organisms, the idea of common descent, the geological history of the Earth, the formation of the solar system and the origin of the universe.[21][22][23][24]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions. Their egos won't let them admit they were wrong. So the game continues but a day will come that they will be brought to their knees. You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

Even if all biologists were in the clutches of evolution’s vile, atheist conspiracy, presumably bribed by their academic paychecks and research grants, there’s no reason for profit-seeking corporations to cripple themselves by sticking with a “fraud” like evolution — not when there’s an allegedly better theory around. The free enterprise system isn’t interested in ideology — only what works. Business executives and their shareholders are results-oriented, and if there’s a legal way to use knowledge to earn profits, they’ll do it. But somehow, despite the incentives to stay ahead of the competition, flood geologists aren’t recruited by the mining or oil industries, creation scientists aren’t hired as researchers for the biotech industry or pharmaceutical firms, and — this is trivial, but true — specialists in Noah’s Ark aren’t in demand by naval architects.[emph. LOki]

Isn’t it amazing that these industries, which are profit-oriented and thus non-ideological, which employ tens of thousands of scientists in the fields of biology, geology, etc., never specifically recruit creationists and don’t waste their time or their shareholders’ money doing “creation science”? Why don’t they offer big salaries to hire the leading ID scientists away from the Discovery Institute? Why don’t they make tempting offers to all the creationists who claim that universities discriminate against them? Why are they avoiding such a rich source of talent?[emph. LOki]

If there were any creationists who were actually doing creation “science” in any industry, or if there were any fruits to be derived from the “science” of creationism, the usual websites would be delighted to point it out. They routinely proclaim that evolution is dead, and creationism is the future, yet they are strangely silent about their failure to penetrate results-oriented industries.

Does the “Darwinist” conspiracy control not only academia, but also the hiring and research activities of major corporations? Oil companies too? If so, where are the gutsy little start-ups that have some hot new creationist development to sell? Why don’t venture capitalists bankroll such enterprises? If creation science is such hot stuff, why isn’t there a creationist version of Silicon Valley? Could it be that — gasp! — investments in creationism don’t offer anything of value?[emph. LOki]
--The Sensuous Curmudgeon, 2009​

What's up with that, Youwerecreated?

 

[LOki]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions.

Your perception of "design" is ONLY A PRODUCT OF YOUR BELIEF IN A DESIGNER.

Without YOUR BASELESS preconception of this "Designer" of YOURS, NOTHING you've pointed at as "design" is any evidence WHAT-SO-EVER of design.

Nor a "Creator."

Your EVERY argument--each and EVERY evidence you bring--is a logical fallacy.

YOU are wrong.

Their egos won't let them admit they were wrong.

YOUR "theory" is "... based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ...", and YOU are wrong, and you won't admit it.

Is that YOUR ego?

What's up with that?

So the game continues but a day will come that they will be brought to their knees.

Is this YOUR ego again, desperately trying to defend YOUR "theory" based on YOUR imaginary friend; YOUR "... wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ..."?

You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

Why is your refusal to "... accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life ..." a reason to accept a fairy tale as an "... explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life"?

I'll tell you. You are entirely UNCONCERNED with an actual intellectually valid "... explanation of our universe, our planet, and the complexity of life." This is all about YOUR EGO.

This is why YOU are always demanding that we "prove" YOUR imaginary-friend-based "theory" wrong, and why YOU are always disappointed when we merely bring verifiable evidence and/or valid logic to support our belief. Denying evidence is like breathing air for retards like YOU, but if we were to provide absolute and unqualified "proof," then we would have finally brought a real test of YOUR faith--if YOU manage to maintain YOUR retarded superstition in the face absolute and unqualified "proof" that it's nothing but YOUR delusional imagination, then YOU would "know"--YOU would finally have that certainty in YOURself that YOU have in YOUR magical imaginary friend--that YOU can claim some kind of intellectual and moral superiority over YOUR fellows.

 

[Youwerecreated]

On so many levels,

Honesty test. The bible says ten times kinds bring forth after their own kind does science support this comment in the bible after billions of observations ?

Depends on what it means by kind, I would suppose! But generally speaking, yes. Of course, that doesn't really mean the bible is supported by science. I'm sure I could go pick some examples from any number of fiction books, or even probably other holy books, that are accurate.

Also, have you read all the other holy books and know that none of them say their gods are responsible for creation?

Once again,

Even if they do they would easily be refuted by science like the koran.

And you are laughing when the bible is supportyed by the evidence ?

How bout a little more.

Could man know these things when the bible was written and has science confirmed them.

Gen 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over the empty place, and He hung the earth on nothing.


Oceans contain springs The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors

Job 38:16 Have you gone to the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?


There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor . Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

Jon 2:5 Waters encompassed me, even to the soul; the depth closed around me; the seaweed was bound to my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was around me forever; yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O Jehovah my God.


Blood is the source of life and health . Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled” and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” long before science understood its function.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. And I have given it to you on the altar to make an atonement for your souls. For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.

Lev 17:14 For it is the life of all flesh. Its blood is for the life of it. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any flesh. For the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


You laugh this off ?

 

[Youwerecreated]

clever for an 8th grader not a grandfather, unless the grandfather never got past 8th grade.

When scientific research produces empirical evidence and theoretical conclusions which contradict a literalist creationist interpretation of scripture, creationists often reject the conclusions of the research[17] or its underlying scientific theories[18] or its methodology.[19] The rejection of scientific findings has sparked political and theological controversy.[7] Two offshoots of creationism—creation science and intelligent design—have been characterized as pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community.[20] The most notable disputes concern the evolution of living organisms, the idea of common descent, the geological history of the Earth, the formation of the solar system and the origin of the universe.[21][22][23][24]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions. Their egos won't let them admit they were wrong. So the game continues but a day will come that they will be brought to their knees. You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

Even if all biologists were in the clutches of evolution’s vile, atheist conspiracy, presumably bribed by their academic paychecks and research grants, there’s no reason for profit-seeking corporations to cripple themselves by sticking with a “fraud” like evolution — not when there’s an allegedly better theory around. The free enterprise system isn’t interested in ideology — only what works. Business executives and their shareholders are results-oriented, and if there’s a legal way to use knowledge to earn profits, they’ll do it. But somehow, despite the incentives to stay ahead of the competition, flood geologists aren’t recruited by the mining or oil industries, creation scientists aren’t hired as researchers for the biotech industry or pharmaceutical firms, and — this is trivial, but true — specialists in Noah’s Ark aren’t in demand by naval architects.[emph. LOki]

Isn’t it amazing that these industries, which are profit-oriented and thus non-ideological, which employ tens of thousands of scientists in the fields of biology, geology, etc., never specifically recruit creationists and don’t waste their time or their shareholders’ money doing “creation science”? Why don’t they offer big salaries to hire the leading ID scientists away from the Discovery Institute? Why don’t they make tempting offers to all the creationists who claim that universities discriminate against them? Why are they avoiding such a rich source of talent?[emph. LOki]

If there were any creationists who were actually doing creation “science” in any industry, or if there were any fruits to be derived from the “science” of creationism, the usual websites would be delighted to point it out. They routinely proclaim that evolution is dead, and creationism is the future, yet they are strangely silent about their failure to penetrate results-oriented industries.

Does the “Darwinist” conspiracy control not only academia, but also the hiring and research activities of major corporations? Oil companies too? If so, where are the gutsy little start-ups that have some hot new creationist development to sell? Why don’t venture capitalists bankroll such enterprises? If creation science is such hot stuff, why isn’t there a creationist version of Silicon Valley? Could it be that — gasp! — investments in creationism don’t offer anything of value?[emph. LOki]
--The Sensuous Curmudgeon, 2009​

What's up with that, Youwerecreated?

There are a few ethical sciemtist that have spoken out with the problems of many of the theories but they are reduced to a creationist or there is something else wrong with them. You see if a scientist goes against the establishment trouble comes for that person. But that does not matter for a creationist in search of truth. He oe she will be lead by their integrity.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions.

Your perception of "design" is ONLY A PRODUCT OF YOUR BELIEF IN A DESIGNER.

Without YOUR BASELESS preconception of this "Designer" of YOURS, NOTHING you've pointed at as "design" is any evidence WHAT-SO-EVER of design.

Nor a "Creator."

Your EVERY argument--each and EVERY evidence you bring--is a logical fallacy.

YOU are wrong.

Their egos won't let them admit they were wrong.

YOUR "theory" is "... based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ...", and YOU are wrong, and you won't admit it.

Is that YOUR ego?

What's up with that?

So the game continues but a day will come that they will be brought to their knees.

Is this YOUR ego again, desperately trying to defend YOUR "theory" based on YOUR imaginary friend; YOUR "... wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ..."?

You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

Why is your refusal to "... accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life ..." a reason to accept a fairy tale as an "... explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life"?

I'll tell you. You are entirely UNCONCERNED with an actual intellectually valid "... explanation of our universe, our planet, and the complexity of life." This is all about YOUR EGO.

This is why YOU are always demanding that we "prove" YOUR imaginary-friend-based "theory" wrong, and why YOU are always disappointed when we merely bring verifiable evidence and/or valid logic to support our belief. Denying evidence is like breathing air for retards like YOU, but if we were to provide absolute and unqualified "proof," then we would have finally brought a real test of YOUR faith--if YOU manage to maintain YOUR retarded superstition in the face absolute and unqualified "proof" that it's nothing but YOUR delusional imagination, then YOU would "know"--YOU would finally have that certainty in YOURself that YOU have in YOUR magical imaginary friend--that YOU can claim some kind of intellectual and moral superiority over YOUR fellows.

Loki for your belief system to be true you had to have an awful lot of coincedences and they had to be exact or there would be nothing i don't and won't rely on chance because it is an impossibility.

 

[LOki]

Honesty test. The bible says ten times kinds bring forth after their own kind does science support this comment in the bible after billions of observations ?

Depends on what it means by kind, I would suppose! But generally speaking, yes. Of course, that doesn't really mean the bible is supported by science. I'm sure I could go pick some examples from any number of fiction books, or even probably other holy books, that are accurate.

Also, have you read all the other holy books and know that none of them say their gods are responsible for creation?

Once again,

Even if they do they would easily be refuted by science like the koran.

And you are laughing when the bible is supportyed by the evidence ?

How bout a little more.

Could man know these things when the bible was written and has science confirmed them.

Gen 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over the empty place, and He hung the earth on nothing.


Oceans contain springs The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors

Job 38:16 Have you gone to the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?


There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor . Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

Jon 2:5 Waters encompassed me, even to the soul; the depth closed around me; the seaweed was bound to my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was around me forever; yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O Jehovah my God.


Blood is the source of life and health . Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled” and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” long before science understood its function.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. And I have given it to you on the altar to make an atonement for your souls. For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.

Lev 17:14 For it is the life of all flesh. Its blood is for the life of it. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any flesh. For the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


You laugh this off ?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwLO3ASs5sU"]Youwerecreated shoots himself in the head[/ame]

Yes. What you have provided are just your superstitiously retarded examples of Texas Sharpshooting. You are ENTIRELY laughable.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Depends on what it means by kind, I would suppose! But generally speaking, yes. Of course, that doesn't really mean the bible is supported by science. I'm sure I could go pick some examples from any number of fiction books, or even probably other holy books, that are accurate.

Also, have you read all the other holy books and know that none of them say their gods are responsible for creation?

Once again,

Even if they do they would easily be refuted by science like the koran.

And you are laughing when the bible is supportyed by the evidence ?

How bout a little more.

Could man know these things when the bible was written and has science confirmed them.

Gen 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over the empty place, and He hung the earth on nothing.


Oceans contain springs The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors

Job 38:16 Have you gone to the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?


There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor . Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

Jon 2:5 Waters encompassed me, even to the soul; the depth closed around me; the seaweed was bound to my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was around me forever; yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O Jehovah my God.


Blood is the source of life and health . Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled” and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” long before science understood its function.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. And I have given it to you on the altar to make an atonement for your souls. For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.

Lev 17:14 For it is the life of all flesh. Its blood is for the life of it. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any flesh. For the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


You laugh this off ?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwLO3ASs5sU"]Youwerecreated shoots himself in the head[/ame]

Yes. What you have provided are just your superstitiously retarded examples of Texas Sharpshooting. You are ENTIRELY laughable.

The true fallacy is you not seeing all the great hands you would have to had dealt to you one after the other. The problem is,you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the textbooks.

 

[LOki]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions.

Your perception of "design" is ONLY A PRODUCT OF YOUR BELIEF IN A DESIGNER.

Without YOUR BASELESS preconception of this "Designer" of YOURS, NOTHING you've pointed at as "design" is any evidence WHAT-SO-EVER of design.

Nor a "Creator."

Your EVERY argument--each and EVERY evidence you bring--is a logical fallacy.

YOU are wrong.

YOUR "theory" is "... based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ...", and YOU are wrong, and you won't admit it.

Is that YOUR ego?

What's up with that?

Is this YOUR ego again, desperately trying to defend YOUR "theory" based on YOUR imaginary friend; YOUR "... wild imaginations and faulty conclusions ..."?

You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

Why is your refusal to "... accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life ..." a reason to accept a fairy tale as an "... explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life"?

I'll tell you. You are entirely UNCONCERNED with an actual intellectually valid "... explanation of our universe, our planet, and the complexity of life." This is all about YOUR EGO.

This is why YOU are always demanding that we "prove" YOUR imaginary-friend-based "theory" wrong, and why YOU are always disappointed when we merely bring verifiable evidence and/or valid logic to support our belief. Denying evidence is like breathing air for retards like YOU, but if we were to provide absolute and unqualified "proof," then we would have finally brought a real test of YOUR faith--if YOU manage to maintain YOUR retarded superstition in the face absolute and unqualified "proof" that it's nothing but YOUR delusional imagination, then YOU would "know"--YOU would finally have that certainty in YOURself that YOU have in YOUR magical imaginary friend--that YOU can claim some kind of intellectual and moral superiority over YOUR fellows.

Loki for your belief system to be true you had to have an awful lot of coincedences ...

This is true for ANY specific outcome ... including each of those outcomes that would NOT have brought about life that can ask the question, "Why are we here?"

... and they had to be exact or there would be nothing[emph. LOki] ...

So what? Between us, I'm not the one insisting upon the validity of logical fallacies to "prove" my point, I'm not the one refusing to bring verifiable evidence AND valid logic to support my point, I'm not the one in denial of the reality of the appurtenances of an objectively real existence, I'm not the one who proposes that "nothing" is really "some(objectively real)thing" that explains why there is not this "nothing" you posit as an alternative.

i don't and won't rely on chance because it is an impossibility.

You don't have to rely on chance AFTER the dice are cast. There's literally no "chance" at all that something happened differently than the way it happened. Even your faith cannot introduce "chance" into that, let alone the application of valid logic to the verifiable evidence. Your intellectual paradigm is just WRONG.

You see Youwerecreated, for YOUR belief system to be true, you require an awful lot of coincidences too, they all have to be to be just as exact, AND YOU REQUIRE BELIEF in an all powerful Tooth-Fairy to make sure it all coincides exactly.

This inexplicable Tooth-Fairy of yours is CLEARLY NOT an explanation for anything; so I don't accept it as an explanation for anything. You are just replacing the intellectually honest admission that you don't know, or are are not completely certain, with the intellectually dishonest certainty of this Tooth-Fairy of yours.

I don't believe this Tooth-Fairy of yours is real because it shares none of the hallmarks of things that are objectively real; and I won't rely on this Tooth-Fairy of yours for anything because exists ONLY in YOUR imagination--and since you're a retard, this Tooth-Fairy of yours is necessarily retarded too.

 

[LOki]

Even if they do they would easily be refuted by science like the koran.

And you are laughing when the bible is supportyed by the evidence ?

How bout a little more.

Could man know these things when the bible was written and has science confirmed them.

Gen 2:7 And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.


Job 26:7 He stretches out the north over the empty place, and He hung the earth on nothing.


Oceans contain springs The ocean is very deep. Almost all the ocean floor is in total darkness and the pressure there is enormous. It would have been impossible for Job to have explored the "springs of the sea." Until recently, it was thought that oceans were fed only by rivers and rain. Yet in the 1970s, with the help of deep diving research submarines that were constructed to withstand 6,000 pounds-per-square-inch pressure, oceanographers discovered springs on the ocean floors

Job 38:16 Have you gone to the springs of the sea? Or have you walked in search of the depths?


There are mountains on the bottom of the ocean floor . Only in the last century have we discovered that there are towering mountains and deep trenches in the depths of the sea.

Jon 2:5 Waters encompassed me, even to the soul; the depth closed around me; the seaweed was bound to my head.
Jon 2:6 I went down to the bottoms of the mountains; the earth with her bars was around me forever; yet You have brought up my life from the pit, O Jehovah my God.


Blood is the source of life and health . Up until 120 years ago, sick people were “bled” and many died as a result (e.g. George Washington). Today we know that healthy blood is necessary to bring life-giving nutrients to every cell in the body. God declared that “the life of the flesh is in the blood” long before science understood its function.

Lev 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. And I have given it to you on the altar to make an atonement for your souls. For it is the blood that makes an atonement for the soul.

Lev 17:14 For it is the life of all flesh. Its blood is for the life of it. Therefore I said to the sons of Israel, You shall not eat the blood of any flesh. For the life of all flesh is its blood. Whoever eats it shall be cut off.


You laugh this off ?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwLO3ASs5sU"]Youwerecreated shoots himself in the head[/ame]

Yes. What you have provided are just your superstitiously retarded examples of Texas Sharpshooting. You are ENTIRELY laughable.

The true fallacy is you not seeing all the great hands you would have to had dealt to you one after the other.

Demonstrate. I know you won't, because NOTHING I've posted supports this wishful accusation of yours.

The true fallacy is that you assert that faith is a valid source of valid understanding of reality.

The problem is,you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the textbooks.

My reasoning ability is fine. My mind is open to the facts of reality validated by verifiable evidence and/or valid logic.

You, OTOH, you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the superstitious. Your baseless certainty in the validity of the preconceived conclusions of your superstitions has your mind shut to the validity of conclusions drawn from reality.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Youwerecreated shoots himself in the head

Yes. What you have provided are just your superstitiously retarded examples of Texas Sharpshooting. You are ENTIRELY laughable.

The true fallacy is you not seeing all the great hands you would have to had dealt to you one after the other.

Demonstrate. I know you won't, because NOTHING I've posted supports this wishful accusation of yours.

The true fallacy is that you assert that faith is a valid source of valid understanding of reality.

The problem is,you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the textbooks.

My reasoning ability is fine. My mind is open to the facts of reality validated by verifiable evidence and/or valid logic.

You, OTOH, you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the superstitious. Your baseless certainty in the validity of the preconceived conclusions of your superstitions has your mind shut to the validity of conclusions drawn from reality.

My line of thinking is not just faith it is logical.

No matter how long i sit in a chair and stare at my lawn i know that lawn will not take care of itself,i have to get out of that chair and do something to make my lawn look nice.

That is both faith and logical thinking.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Youwerecreated shoots himself in the head

Yes. What you have provided are just your superstitiously retarded examples of Texas Sharpshooting. You are ENTIRELY laughable.

The true fallacy is you not seeing all the great hands you would have to had dealt to you one after the other.

Demonstrate. I know you won't, because NOTHING I've posted supports this wishful accusation of yours.

The true fallacy is that you assert that faith is a valid source of valid understanding of reality.

The problem is,you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the textbooks.

My reasoning ability is fine. My mind is open to the facts of reality validated by verifiable evidence and/or valid logic.

You, OTOH, you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the superstitious. Your baseless certainty in the validity of the preconceived conclusions of your superstitions has your mind shut to the validity of conclusions drawn from reality.

What verfiable evidence do you have for macro-evolution ? What verifiable evidence do you have for the big bang ?

What verifiable evidence do you have for life coming about through a narural process ?

What you have is another mans opinions of the evidence.

 

[amrchaos]

I was wondering--if we were not made of the same stuff as that which makes up the universe, what could we be made of, Angel wings?

Sounds like a good assumption than a "Humanly unknowable" truth.

 

[LOki]

The true fallacy is you not seeing all the great hands you would have to had dealt to you one after the other.

Demonstrate. I know you won't, because NOTHING I've posted supports this wishful accusation of yours.

The true fallacy is that you assert that faith is a valid source of valid understanding of reality.

The problem is,you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the textbooks.

My reasoning ability is fine. My mind is open to the facts of reality validated by verifiable evidence and/or valid logic.

You, OTOH, you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the superstitious. Your baseless certainty in the validity of the preconceived conclusions of your superstitions has your mind shut to the validity of conclusions drawn from reality.

My line of thinking is not just faith it is logical.

Faith and valid logic are irreconcilable. Faith and verifiable evidence are irreconcilable. Your "logic" is fundamentally fallacious, your "evidence" requires question-begging, as has been pointed out to you numerous times.

No matter how long i sit in a chair and stare at my lawn i know that lawn will not take care of itself,i have to get out of that chair and do something to make my lawn look nice.

That is both faith and logical thinking.

Without any fear you'll meet this request; demonstrate that it's both.

 

[cbirch2]

Yesterdays news:

Hubble Captures Violent Birth Pangs of Enormous Star | Wired Science | Wired.com

 

[Youwerecreated]

I was wondering--if we were not made of the same stuff as that which makes up the universe, what could we be made of, Angel wings?

Sounds like a good assumption than a "Humanly unknowable" truth.

You really think 3,500 years ago people would assume they were made up of igredients of the earth ?

It's only reasonable because what we know now just recently.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Demonstrate. I know you won't, because NOTHING I've posted supports this wishful accusation of yours.

The true fallacy is that you assert that faith is a valid source of valid understanding of reality.

My reasoning ability is fine. My mind is open to the facts of reality validated by verifiable evidence and/or valid logic.

You, OTOH, you have lost the ability to to reason and think for yourself because of the nonsense put into your head by the superstitious. Your baseless certainty in the validity of the preconceived conclusions of your superstitions has your mind shut to the validity of conclusions drawn from reality.

My line of thinking is not just faith it is logical.

Faith and valid logic are irreconcilable. Faith and verifiable evidence are irreconcilable. Your "logic" is fundamentally fallacious, your "evidence" requires question-begging, as has been pointed out to you numerous times.

No matter how long i sit in a chair and stare at my lawn i know that lawn will not take care of itself,i have to get out of that chair and do something to make my lawn look nice.

That is both faith and logical thinking.

Without any fear you'll meet this request; demonstrate that it's both.

I have faith that my lawn will grow out of control if i do nothing.

It is logical to think that my lawn will grow out of control if i do nothing.

 

[Youwerecreated]

Yesterdays news:

Hubble Captures Violent Birth Pangs of Enormous Star | Wired Science | Wired.com

Oxygen on mars.

Is there enough oxygen on Mars to support life?

 

[daws101]

If anything that term applies to you.

clever for an 8th grader not a grandfather, unless the grandfather never got past 8th grade.

When scientific research produces empirical evidence and theoretical conclusions which contradict a literalist creationist interpretation of scripture, creationists often reject the conclusions of the research[17] or its underlying scientific theories[18] or its methodology.[19] The rejection of scientific findings has sparked political and theological controversy.[7] Two offshoots of creationism—creation science and intelligent design—have been characterized as pseudoscience by the mainstream scientific community.[20] The most notable disputes concern the evolution of living organisms, the idea of common descent, the geological history of the Earth, the formation of the solar system and the origin of the universe.[21][22][23][24]

Well of course the scientific community has been hijacked by secularlists and atheist,and the ones that are not in either category have big egos,naturally they will not speak out against many of the theories that are based on wild imaginations and faulty conclusions. Their egos won't let them admit they were wrong. So the game continues but a day will come that they will be brought to their knees. You want to base your life and views on chance have at it. If you wish in one hand poop in the other which one will fill up first ? I don't accept chance as an explanation of our universe,our planet, and the complexity of life.

I love it when the ignorant rationalize.