Crony capitalism is just socialism lite

[Kosh]

So you admit that Obamacare was the worst thing that could have happened to the healthcare system?

Trump's SCOTUS pick told the SCOTUS that Obamacare could be upheld with tax.

His basis is the Anti-Injunction Act of 1867.

Roberts wrote the majority opinion, and in it he rejected the challengers' argument that Congress intended to use the provision of Obamacare in question as a weapon of coercion against states.

 

[Brain357]

$4 billion tax dollars to a foreign company is socialism

Its an investment....

Like solyndra?

It is socialism. The government is regulating means of production. The gov said Foxconn is going to be here. The market would determine where Foxconn goes in capitalism.

Foxconn is free to go where they want. They are not obligated to take the offer.

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

 

[Kosh]

This is a great article. What we need is more free market capitalism, but neither political side are giving us that. The left is talking too much about socialism. The right pretends to be capitalists, when really they are crony capitalists. Unemployment is very low, but wages are still stagnant. We need to move away from these crony policies.

Crony capitalism is just socialism lite

Our politicians like to claim, and might even believe, they are helping markets and growing the economy when they grant special economic privileges. They are actually cheating their constituents out of the benefits of free markets, distorting choices and interfering in decisions with unstable, arbitrary policymaking customized for the privileged elite. They are, on a more limited basis, doing what socialist leaders and bureaucracies have done everywhere socialism has been tried on a mass scale. And the negative results are the same, except that we have a huge economy, much of which is relatively unmolested, that mostly papers them over, at least until the last few decades.

Crony capitalism is socialism lite, and anti-free enterprise. Too many of our leaders, including some who call themselves Reagan Republicans, take part in it. But for those who see socialism as a counter to the elitism they see in capitalist economies, think again. History teaches that, due to socialism’s centralized nature, there is no place more replete with cronyism than one practicing socialism.

So you admit that Obamacare was the worst thing that could have happened to the healthcare system?

I don't have an answer for the healthcare, do you? The republicans obviously don't. High healthcare costs are suffocating the economy. All the time I talk to people with business ideas, but they can't risk starting something because of healthcare costs.

See the far left talks about crony capitalism, yet looks the other way when they do it! They only blame the other side.

So another far left religious narrative debunked!

 

[Tehon]

Its an investment....

Like solyndra?

It is socialism. The government is regulating means of production. The gov said Foxconn is going to be here. The market would determine where Foxconn goes in capitalism.

Foxconn is free to go where they want. They are not obligated to take the offer.

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

 

[Brain357]

Like solyndra?

It is socialism. The government is regulating means of production. The gov said Foxconn is going to be here. The market would determine where Foxconn goes in capitalism.

Foxconn is free to go where they want. They are not obligated to take the offer.

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

 

[Tehon]

You think the government should be deciding who to throw money at?

Citizens should be deciding if it is in their interests.

 

[Brain357]

This is a great article. What we need is more free market capitalism, but neither political side are giving us that. The left is talking too much about socialism. The right pretends to be capitalists, when really they are crony capitalists. Unemployment is very low, but wages are still stagnant. We need to move away from these crony policies.

Crony capitalism is just socialism lite

Our politicians like to claim, and might even believe, they are helping markets and growing the economy when they grant special economic privileges. They are actually cheating their constituents out of the benefits of free markets, distorting choices and interfering in decisions with unstable, arbitrary policymaking customized for the privileged elite. They are, on a more limited basis, doing what socialist leaders and bureaucracies have done everywhere socialism has been tried on a mass scale. And the negative results are the same, except that we have a huge economy, much of which is relatively unmolested, that mostly papers them over, at least until the last few decades.

Crony capitalism is socialism lite, and anti-free enterprise. Too many of our leaders, including some who call themselves Reagan Republicans, take part in it. But for those who see socialism as a counter to the elitism they see in capitalist economies, think again. History teaches that, due to socialism’s centralized nature, there is no place more replete with cronyism than one practicing socialism.

So you admit that Obamacare was the worst thing that could have happened to the healthcare system?

I don't have an answer for the healthcare, do you? The republicans obviously don't. High healthcare costs are suffocating the economy. All the time I talk to people with business ideas, but they can't risk starting something because of healthcare costs.

See the far left talks about crony capitalism, yet looks the other way when they do it! They only blame the other side.

So another far left religious narrative debunked!

You ignored my question. How could I know what the worst thing is? It didn't work. Republican have no answer. Healthcare cost were skyrocketing before obamacare.

 

[Tehon]

Foxconn is free to go where they want. They are not obligated to take the offer.

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Our economy? It doesn't hurt me.

 

[Brain357]

You think the government should be deciding who to throw money at?

Citizens should be deciding if it is in their interests.

Citizens? Explain how that works exactly.

 

[Natural Citizen]

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

It's a gosh darned crying shame that in today's modern American political lexicon we have lefties who represent conservatism better than the statist hacks who confusingly refer to themselves as conservative.

 

[Brain357]

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Our economy? It doesn't hurt me.

Yes it does. The money should be in the peoples hands growing the economy. Not being wasted on huge corporations.

 

[Brain357]

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

It's a goshed darn crying shame that in today's modern American political lexicon we have leftties who represent conservatism better than the statist hacks who confusingly refer to themselves as conservative.

Isn't it just crazy? How did this happen?

 

[Kosh]

Foxconn is free to go where they want. They are not obligated to take the offer.

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Well it takes time to build things and go through a lot of red tape to build a factory..

They broke ground for the plant June 28, 2018

And the far left proves they do not understand beyond their debunked religious narratives.

 

[Tehon]

You think the government should be deciding who to throw money at?

Citizens should be deciding if it is in their interests.

Citizens? Explain how that works exactly.

The government is supposed to be representing the interests of its citizens. Are you in Wisconsin?

 

[Tehon]

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Our economy? It doesn't hurt me.

Yes it does. The money should be in the peoples hands growing the economy. Not being wasted on huge corporations.

Are you a taxpayer in the State of Wisconsin?

 

[Brain357]

And they are highly influenced by $4 billion no doubt.

No doubt, but how does this affect the market exactly?

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Well it takes time to build things and go through a lot of red tape to build a factory..

They broke ground for the plant June 28, 2018

And the far left proves they do not understand beyond their debunked religious narratives.

Sure and it might create few jobs and be gone in 5 years, 20 years short of the break even. You think gov should be picking winners and losers?

 

[Brain357]

You think the government should be deciding who to throw money at?

Citizens should be deciding if it is in their interests.

Citizens? Explain how that works exactly.

The government is supposed to be representing the interests of its citizens. Are you in Wisconsin?

So you think the government should control the economy? You are a socialist?

 

[Kosh]

This is a great article. What we need is more free market capitalism, but neither political side are giving us that. The left is talking too much about socialism. The right pretends to be capitalists, when really they are crony capitalists. Unemployment is very low, but wages are still stagnant. We need to move away from these crony policies.

Crony capitalism is just socialism lite

Our politicians like to claim, and might even believe, they are helping markets and growing the economy when they grant special economic privileges. They are actually cheating their constituents out of the benefits of free markets, distorting choices and interfering in decisions with unstable, arbitrary policymaking customized for the privileged elite. They are, on a more limited basis, doing what socialist leaders and bureaucracies have done everywhere socialism has been tried on a mass scale. And the negative results are the same, except that we have a huge economy, much of which is relatively unmolested, that mostly papers them over, at least until the last few decades.

Crony capitalism is socialism lite, and anti-free enterprise. Too many of our leaders, including some who call themselves Reagan Republicans, take part in it. But for those who see socialism as a counter to the elitism they see in capitalist economies, think again. History teaches that, due to socialism’s centralized nature, there is no place more replete with cronyism than one practicing socialism.

So you admit that Obamacare was the worst thing that could have happened to the healthcare system?

I don't have an answer for the healthcare, do you? The republicans obviously don't. High healthcare costs are suffocating the economy. All the time I talk to people with business ideas, but they can't risk starting something because of healthcare costs.

See the far left talks about crony capitalism, yet looks the other way when they do it! They only blame the other side.

So another far left religious narrative debunked!

You ignored my question. How could I know what the worst thing is? It didn't work. Republican have no answer. Healthcare cost were skyrocketing before obamacare.

Exactly you did not address my question you would not admit that the far left was wrong! You will not admit that the far left was in bed with crony capitalism, you only want to blame the other side.

It is the standard debunked narrative of the far left.

Obamacare is a perfect example of what you posted in your OP and yet you will not condemn it!

 

[Brain357]

It shows the decision is really being made by the government. I don't think that is a good thing.

The government decided to create jobs for its citizens. Unless you are in Wisconsin what is it to you?

It's a huge waste of tax dollars. So far there are no jobs. These things hurt our economy.

Our economy? It doesn't hurt me.

Yes it does. The money should be in the peoples hands growing the economy. Not being wasted on huge corporations.

Are you a taxpayer in the State of Wisconsin?

It is happening all over the country. Tax dollars are being wasted.
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From the PO article:

Unfortunately, many policymakers who give a great deal of lip service to free enterprise sometimes act like socialists. Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, not an ideological socialist by any stretch of the imagination, championed the creation of two “deal-closing funds” when he was Texas governor that were used to pay large corporations for locating facilities in Texas. One of these funds was called the Texas Enterprise Fund. But free enterprise is the last thing anyone should think of when taxpayers who mostly pay sales taxes are tapped to pay well-established corporations such as Home Depot and Toyota for the “duh” decision of locating in business-friendly, growing Texas.

These sorts of deals are being made constantly. Arizona established a deal-making fund partly to mimic Texas’ example. Oklahoma City recently offered Amazon $1 million from city-issued bond proceeds. Cabela’s and Bass Pro Shops, even before they merged, had a policy of never locating anywhere that failed to offer cash upfront or extended tax breaks. While a national chain like Olive Garden might get access to the public purse or is allowed to contribute less to it, mom and pop Italian restaurants get left out in the cold. Small competitors rarely, if ever, get the special deals from local governments that rich national chains get all the time. Examples of these deals from throughout the nation could regularly fill a daily newspaper.

The mayor of Oklahoma City justified the Amazon deal by reportedly saying, “It is the game cities are forced to play,” because everybody else is doing it and all are forced to compete. Whether or not this is a justification, when government rewards some businesses and not others with tax breaks or outright subsidies, it is a socialistic practice. Whether or not they actually succeed, government officials are attempting to control the flow of resources in our economy with state and local economic development deals. By definition, this is socialistic, because socialism involves, after all, government control of resources.

Our politicians like to claim, and might even believe, they are helping markets and growing the economy when they grant special economic privileges. They are actually cheating their constituents out of the benefits of free markets, distorting choices and interfering in decisions with unstable, arbitrary policymaking customized for the privileged elite. They are, on a more limited basis, doing what socialist leaders and bureaucracies have done everywhere socialism has been tried on a mass scale. And the negative results are the same, except that we have a huge economy, much of which is relatively unmolested, that mostly papers them over, at least until the last few decades.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Isn't it just crazy? How did this happen?

I just chuckle at em and move along.