Crooked Operative Filmed Pulling Out Suitcases of Ballots in Georgia IS IDENTIFIED

[candycorn]

This is why the cult is

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So when can we expect the individual to be arrested?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I watched the video, at least about 35 minutes of it. First of all, this is not testimony, nor is it a legal hearing. This is a discussion between Giuliani and Waldron at a public meeting held by a group Arizona legislators for the Trump campaign. In the meeting Waldron tells how elections could be rigged using Dominion Software. This of course assumes that tabulating machines and controllers, actually mark sense readers are online with dominion during the election which they are not. There is no reason to have these units connected to Dominion during the election. They are only connected to Dominion to download new releases of their software which is done prior to the election and prior to the test runs to insure that they are secure and accurate.

This dialog is intended to connect rigged election in South America with Dominion. Waldron does this by attempting to connect Dominion's use of Smartmatic Software, using the term similar to, omitting the fact that Dominion develops their own software and does not lease or purchase software from Smartmatic. The two companies are competitors and have had no business dealings since 2009. Smartmatic was founded by Antonio Mugica and Roger Piñate who were born in Venezuela so Waldron implies their software was used to rig elections in Venezuela and elsewhere.

The Trump campaign has used Waldron in a number of presentation. When questioned in Georgia about his allegations, he crumbled and admitted he had no evidence of thousand of illegal ballots. This is typical in the Trump's campaign to discredit our elections, make accusations, explain what could happen, and create a story of election fraud out of normal vote processing events

Maybe the 35 minutes you watched didn't include how algorithms are used to automatically switch votes for a desired outcome which did happen in Venezuela. You must have been playing with your iPhone when he testified that he has evidence votes were uploaded to Germany, and sent back to the US, because while we can subpoena our machines for inspection, we don't have that authority in other countries. He displayed how Biden had the same voting pattern as Chavez. He testified that Smartmatic has other brands of software that we did use, and how to set the machine to switch votes is no secret. It's in their owners manual. You must have missed the part where he discovered malware in the Dominion system. The malware can copy screen names and passwords of administrators.

The voting machines were never supposed to be connected to the internet for any reason. Updates? WTF would a voting machine need a system update in the middle of an election. It can't wait????

As far as evidence, the good Colonel said that this evidence could be found if he were to do a technical analysis of these voting machines in question. How can he bring evidence if he's restricted from obtaining such evidence?

rofl

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So did you watch the video Toro? Of course you didn't. Calling a military mans testimony fake news. It's like we've always said, you Satan worshipers hate the police and hate our military.

Man you took the words right out of my mouth,I could not have said that about USMBs resident troll any better than you did word for word.
That’s Toto for you.like all paid shills here won’t watch the video

 

[candycorn]

Fact Check: Video From Georgia Does NOT Show Suitcases Filled With Ballots Suspiciously Pulled From Under A Table; Poll Watchers Were NOT Told To Leave | Lead Stories

No one was asked or forced to leave. The people who opened the envelopes left because their work was done.

Doesn't matter.
The people they want in power have shown total disregard for the Constitution.
Economy busting plans like Green Energy madness
Closing down business
Confiscating firearms (only tyrants want to do this)

So this is about far more than just the election

No, it is strictly about the election. I understand what you are saying. But if the people elected someone, that is who we have for the next 4 years.

Just because immediate evidence is not found.....does not indicate no crime has been committed.

There are far too many discrepancies.

let's stop being stupid here. The ENTIRE purpose of the massive mail in ballots was to sway the election.
YES LAWS WERE BROKEN.
Give me ONE REASON I should trust Democrats have been honest and transparent in this election.....

Are they EVER ?

Doesn't Georgia have republican governors, lt governors, secretary of state?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

BREAKING:
Crooked Operative Filmed Pulling Out Suitcases of Ballots in Georgia IS IDENTIFIED​

What's Up, Ruby?... BREAKING: Crooked Operative Filmed Pulling Out Suitcases of Ballots in Georgia IS IDENTIFIED (thegatewaypundit.com)
3 Dec 2020 ~~ By Jim Hoft
Earlier today Cristina Laila reported on the explosive video that was revealed during the Georgia ballot counting at the State Farm Arena where crooked Democrats pulled out suitcases full of ballots and began counting those ballots without election monitors in the room.
Trump’s legal team showed a video from the State Farm Arena tabulation center when poll workers were told to leave at 10:25 PM.
A few “workers” stayed behind and were seen pulling suitcases full of ballots out from under tables to be tabulated!
This was the most explosive video of the entire campaign season!

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We now have identified one of these criminals who were caught on video counting illegal ballots from a suitcase stashed under a table!
As you can see from the video one woman in a purple top was filmed helping pull out the ballots and then sitting down to count the ballots.
That woman has now been identified.
Local 11 News covered the story from the State Farm Arena that a pipe had burst.
(This later was proven to be complete fraud and an excuse to kick out the GOP election observers!)

Ballot counting in Fulton County delayed after pipe bursts at State Farm Arena - YouTube​

One woman in the video is wearing a purple top.
She later appeared in the suitcase video!
Her name is Ruby Freeman.
And she made the mistake of advertising her purse on her desk the same night she was involved in voter fraud on a MASSIVE SCALE.
~[snip]~
Maybe the Georgia police or Bill Barr’s DOJ may want to pay Ruby Freeman a visit.



Comment:
Ballots Do Not Come In Suit Cases....
Good Bye Ruby Tuesday Time to pin vote fraud on you When you change the vote count at night
We're not gonna miss her. “We are saddened to hear about her impending suicide.”

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Suitcases that are ballot containers commonly used by workers to carry ballots.

Video Doesn't Show 'Suitcases' of Illegal Ballots in Georgia - FactCheck.org

The Trump campaign is falsely claiming that a video captured election workers in Georgia adding thousands of illegal ballots that were brought into an Atlanta facility in suspicious “suitcases” on election night.

www.factcheck.org

You can make that stounding statement with a straight face? Are you out of of gourd?
I've worked in the elections of Bush and Obama in elections during and between 2004 and 2010 both in the US Presidential, national and state elections. We never used suit cases, We used US postal trays and pushed things around with 4 wheeled trolleys. Don't give me any B.S.
BTW you can see them running the same voting ballots two and three times through the same machine. That is unless you are blind as well as mentally disabled.
Watch the video...

See Composite Video of the Many Criminal Acts that Took Place In the Atlanta Arena on Election Night - This Will Shock You (thegatewaypundit.com)

hey Doc7505


Notice how when you posted pesky little facts they could not refute,one of the trolls was so butthurt angry you took her to school she was crying she could not counter this evidence,that she is so butthurt angry at you for schooling her,she got angry and put a thumbs down hating to hear that truth you spoke of your experience? The truth hurts

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Nice work, guys! Hope you're real proud of what you've done to these two women just doing their jobs.

The video, Barron said, had sparked death threats against a supervisor, who worked at State Farm Arena, and her mother.

Fulton County elections board narrowly recertifies recount results in 3-2 vote

Vote count changed for third time after machine recount

www.11alive.com

Doing their jobs to commit election fraud? Love how you envy criminals,what a low life you are with no morals. If you were not living on a deserted island OldLady ,you would be aware that Ruby has a criminal past and has been arrested.funny how trolls like you and coyote never question the integrity of these criminals in charger of things like this,first a known corrupt judge who pardons murderers,now this lady with a criminal past,comedy gold from you trolls as always

 

[bravoactual]

From the article:
Two high-level officials with the Georgia secretary of state's office and a state elections board monitor each told Lead Stories that their investigations revealed nothing suspicious in the video.
Yeah, because THIS is not suspicious, palming a thumbdrive?

You guys need to get your stories straight across all these fraud claims.
For example, in this one, where you claimed a Dominion technician was "caught" inserting a thumb drive into the computer and "manipulating votes".

*I* did not claim that, I am saying it is obviously suspicious activity and belies the claim that there was none.

The most likely explanation though is it isn't a thumb drive at all. You can't tell what the hell it is. It could be chapstick or a tampon, but you've created an entire conspiracy theory out of something that "looks suspicious" but you have no idea so you are willing to destroy lives without verifying anything.

Yeah, people look all around to make sure no one is watching, palm a chapstick and then slip it in someones pocket while they pretend to not notice all the time. Sure, go with that.

The officials said the ballots seen in the video were in regular ballot containers -- not suitcases -- and they had been removed from their envelopes and processed while news media and election observers for the Republican Party and Trump campaign were present.
'Suitcases' is just a nickname from the people that work at these ballot counting centers, because the containers have an extendable handle like a suitcase. No one truly believes that these are literal suitcases, OMG.

I disagree with you here. It's not just a nickname. People making the claim were implying that they were brought in from somewhere else secretly in suitcases or totes. People really are that dumb.

Yeah, and some people believed that Davey Crocket could ride on lightning bolts too, but that does nto prove that any reliable source ever cclaimed it was true.

The media and party observers were never told to leave because counting was over for the night, but they apparently followed workers who left once their job of opening envelopes was completed, the chief investigator for the secretary of state told Lead Stories. The observers were free to return at anytime, she said.
Bullshit, they were told to leave due to the burst pipe, and the workers were not supposed to stay and count all night without an observer/minotor from both candidates campaign teams.

1. The Fulton County burst pipe occurred at 6am on Tuesday, delaying the start of the absentee ballot counting. This does not correspond to the time table of the supposed "suitcases of fake ballots being counted" when people were supposedly "told to leave".

Georgia Election Results Delayed After Pipe Bursts in Room with Absentee Ballots | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila

Georgia – Fulton County’s absentee ballot processing center was flooded after a pipe burst, slowing down the counting of mail-in ballots.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

Yes you are correct as to the time frame, but why lie about it and pretend to be fixing it for four hours? They wanted to push the vote into the wee hours of the morning where they could carry on their ballot bullshit.

2. No one was told to leave.

There are sworn affidavits from two poll watchers that say that they were told to leave. They made these statements under risk of perjury if proven false.
I'll take THEIR word for what happened.

Per Gabriel Sterling, Republican Sec of State for Georgia:....

Georgia law allows observers, but does not require them to be there for ballots to be counted, she said.

2010 Georgia Code :: TITLE 21 - ELECTIONS :: CHAPTER 2 - ELECTIONS AND PRIMARIES GENERALLY :: ARTICLE 10 - ABSENTEE VOTING :: § 21-2-386 - Safekeeping, certification, and validation of absentee ballots; rejection of ballot; delivery of ballots to

law.justia.com

At least three persons who are registrars, deputy registrars, poll workers, or absentee ballot clerks must be present before commencing; and three persons who are registrars, deputy registrars, or absentee ballot clerks shall be Present at all times while the outer envelopes are being opened. After opening the outer envelopes, the ballots shall be safely and securely stored until the time for tabulating such ballots....
Such committee shall have the right to designate two persons and each independent and nonpartisan candidate whose name appears on the ballot for such election in such county shall have the right to designate one person to act as monitors for such process. ...
Why do you think monitors are required? To make sure everything is valid and not having votes secreted away and brought in for tally that have no chain of custody.

And at least three persons were present (see Sterling's statement). What's the point here?

Sorry, but I will believe my own two eyes and what they saw on the video before I believe some lying suit.

Why do you think these suitcases of ballots were hidden? How does that NOT break the chain of custody?

No votes were "secreted away" - no votes were "hidden".

Because putting ballots under a table that has a cloth all around it isnt really hiding them?

FIVE STATES all stopped counting in the night, and *POOF* Biden is ahead when they resume, overcoming a Trump lead of thousands of votes, but that is all 'normal' for Democrats? roflmao

Everyone fully EXPECTED that Biden's lead would grow because the absentee votes were counted after the in person votes, and in many cases, absentee ballots were not allowed to be even PROCESSED (envelopes removed, signatures verified, etc etc) until after the polls closed. It's no surprise that Biden jumped ahead late, even the Republicans expected it based on how hard they tried to restrict the counting of absentee votes.

And I expected Biden to recover some ground as well, but not in 6 digit spikes that came faster than machines at locations could possible scan physically.
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I have full confidence that when rational people with an IQ over room temperature sees this video that they will believe their own two eyes, not Democrat lies.

I have little confidence in your ability rate IQ's.

Well there's an easy one, lol.

Seriously, people with book oriented intelligence are fairly gullible and reliant on authority figures to give them what they believe to be Truth and do not process the data for validity and conformity to the world around them. Your acceptance of the GA SoS's word that nothing is ammiss or suspicious in the things revealed on video tape is an example of this.
You accept the word of an unsworn authority figure over what is plainly shown by video that you can see with your own two eye's.

That is not low IQ, it is very high 'Gullibility Quotient'.

The people who refuse to see the evidence have been thoroughly indoctrinated by our public education system and lack ANY ability to think critically.

man you took the words right out of my mouth,I could not have said it any better word for word.
The UNDERSTATEMENT of the year,they are so indoctrinated,they refuse to accept facts that out school system is corrupt and eveything they were taught in our history classes was all a lie,that they only heard the version of the government what THEy wanted us to hear and are so far gone brainwashed,they are incapable of critical thinking or thinking outside the box,they actually think the government has always been looking out for them and here to serve the people.

Project much?
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The simple ass, sorry ass fact is they love to be lied to. They need to lied to. They want to be lied to. Cons are scared of thinking for themselves. It is easy to be led when you prefer to lied to.

 

[Flopper]

well he may believe it but it is still from an unnamed source who sent him an email I would bet that they did not have an alternative testimony of how hard something like that would be done. Also the informer said that it was a meeting which implies a few people join together to do this in the hopes of getting away with it. yet the informer was at the meeting. Hmm

I may be wrong, but I don't recall the Colonel stating he got his information from an email. He witnessed those machines hooked up to the internet himself. He also testified that vote swapping is not some tech secret, it's in the owners manual of the software on how to do it.

What I don't understand is the resistance of having these machines and software looked into by Waldron or any other tech team Trump chooses. If it happened in one location, it's likely to have happened in others. Unless this actually takes place, half of the country will always assume that the Biden victory is illegitimate, so the opposition should welcome any investigation IF they actually believe there was no nefarious activity going on behind the scenes.

Just as you wouldn't hire a BLM leader to determine if the police are unfairly targeting blacks, you would not hire a cybersecurity specialist working for Trump campaign to review your electoral system. That would be downright stupid.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just as you wouldn't hire a BLM leader to determine if the police are unfairly targeting blacks, you would not hire a cybersecurity specialist working for Trump campaign to review your electoral system. That would be downright stupid.

No. Have the Trump team come up with their findings, and have it evaluated by the other side. Might make for a good court debate.

I think if we went this route, more on my side would be willing to accept these results. Left as it is, it will create great anger, distrust in our electoral system, and may even result in violence. We are not asking to overturn the election so our guy can win. We are asking to double check to make sure all legal votes were counted, and all illegal votes tossed aside. We are asking that these judges and representatives follow their state Constitution as well as our federal Constitution. Is that asking too much?

 

[Flopper]

Maybe the you haven't seen the news. The Supreme Court on Tuesday refused a long-shot request from Pennsylvania Republicans to overturn the Biden victory in the state, delivering an unmistakable rebuke to President Trump in the forum on which he had pinned his hopes. The Supreme Court decision took all of 35 mins and said, "The application for injunctive relief presented to Justice Alito and by him referred to the Court is denied" with no dissenting option. Even Trump's 3 judges would not go along with this garbage.

Trump and his Republican allies have lost about 50 challenges to the presidential election in the past five weeks, as judges, both republican and democrat appointees in at least eight states have repeatedly rejected a litany of unproven claims — that mail-in ballots were improperly sent out, that absentee ballots were counted wrongly, that poll observers were not given proper access to the vote count and that foreign powers hacked into and manipulated voting machines.

It's time for Trump to do what Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romeny, John McCain, John Kerry, and Al Gore all did, concede the election and take personal responsibility for the lost. However, we all know that won't happen because it takes real courage to admit defeat and take responsivity for failing, something Donald Trump has never done. He simple lacks the courage to admit failure and always blames his failures on others.

I remember the words of the former coach Mike Ditka. You never really lose until you quit trying.

You may want to ignore all the evidence, the courts may ignore all the evidence, but we people will never forget the greatest assault to our election system in the history of our country. Most people outside of the left understand that this was no normal election where Biden simply won and Trump didn't. This historical turnout was as phony as a three dollar bill. Your side ran the most boring candidate since Bob Dole. Trump's turnout was understandable given the great economy before the virus, but unless Jesus comes back to earth and tells us Biden won fairly and squarely, this election was nothing but a scam, and yet another step towards communism which is the lefts ultimate goal. We the people no longer have a choice on our electors. If they are allowed to get away with this, Big Brother will always be able to decide our elections for us, just as they've done now.

The biggest step toward communism would be to convince voters that our democratic elections are unfair and rigged. If you accomplish that, the game's over. And Trump is well on his way to doing just that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The biggest step toward communism would be to convince voters that our democratic elections are unfair and rigged. If you accomplish that, the game's over. And Trump is well on his way to doing just that.

No, the biggest step toward Communism is running elections with a determined result no matter who voted how. When our vote doesn't count for anything, we've surrendered our freedom to Big Brother.

 

[Flopper]

Yes an email from an unknown person was supposedly sent to a number of people.

Another person in the meeting says he saw one machine hooked up to the internet. If you saw something like that would you snap a picture with your cell phone? Hooking a cable would require a router or modem someplace in the building.

If it is to be investigated it must be done by the FBI or some other investigative team. Not by people appointed by Trump. They are biased. There has been a number of legal cases by Team Trump that have been thrown out of court. If you have deep pockets then they will try anything to see if will float.

this article and another one that I read say the same thing. I do not see it reported by any major network. I could be wrong

Still both sources I looked at says exactly what I posted. The guy who sent the email is an unknown person. He has to come forward into the spot light if he going to make such allegations. Yes he will have to prove what he said is true.

Still an unknown email is hard to swallow if your at least open to both sides of the argument.

Well you have tech guys who have to maintain the machine and check for any problems with the machines. There may be security checks. There is no logical reason for them to be hooked up to the internet. Data from the machine can be retrieved using a device and transported to where it needs to ultimately go as a record of the votes.

Also I believe that they will check these votes with the voter database to catch duplicates or unregistered names.

Well people believe in voter fraud. If you feed them misinformation then they will take it as proof especially if their guy lost. Just because they believe it does not mean it happen on such a scale that it cause Trump to lose.

Voter fraud has to be proven in a court of law. Not in the court of public opinion.

When I get time I'll have to watch the Colonel's video again. Most people, even on Trump's side stated it would be a rough sell to get the SC to hear the case. While it's pretty clear these state judges allowed violations of their state Constitution, the Supreme Court mainly deals with the US Constitution. They don't want to get involved in trying to interpret the Constitution of any particular state.

I agree the FBI should investigate, but along with Trump's tech people. The FBI in recent years has become political and part of the deep state, therefore cannot really be trusted. Speaking of which, as for reporting on it, if the shoe was on the other foot, that's all they'd be talking about.

Besides the voting allegations, the entire election just doesn't make any sense. Biden is as exciting as Bob Dole when he ran. Many voters in surveys believe that Biden does have dementia. So how did this frail and fragile old man not only get more votes than Obama, but the most votes in the history of the Untied States? Stopping the building of the wall, increasing taxes on our job producers when we need them the most, drastically increasing the cost of fuel in spite of people having the least money in a long time, increasing the national minimum wage to $15.00 an hour causing a domino effect which will bring us inflation like we haven't seen in a long time, just doesn't make any sense. Especially when he ran against a President who had the best economy in 50 years.

Biden won because he was not Trump. As we all know, Biden votes were anti-Trump votes. This is evident from the number of voters that only voted for the president, ignoring the rest. Early voting and mail-in voting made a huge different in turnout. Think about. With mail-in voting you could vote any day, any time, and anywhere. You didn't have take time off work, no walking or driving to a polling place and standing in line, possibly in bad weather. Your polling place was as near as your mailbox. This made a huge difference in turnout. We had more minorities and more White voters than ever before. And generally, large turnouts favors democrats.

It would be nearly impossible to rig a US presidential election because a presidential election is decentralized. Voting and tabulations are maintained at over 200,000 polling places, 3000 counties, and 50 states. In countries where elections are stolen they are almost always centralized where all vote tabulation occurs in one or just a few places. Our electoral college system makes it even more difficult. The votes can't just be stolen in any state. The vote stealing would have to be in selected multiple states and which states are not know until after the voting is complete. In this election, there were 10 potential swing states.

 

[Flopper]

The biggest step toward communism would be to convince voters that our democratic elections are unfair and rigged. If you accomplish that, the game's over. And Trump is well on his way to doing just that.

No, the biggest step toward Communism is running elections with a determined result no matter who voted how. When our vote doesn't count for anything, we've surrendered our freedom to Big Brother.

Whether the election is actually rigged or Trump convinces voters it was rigged, the damage will have been done. There was virtual no chance of Trump changing the results. All of Trumps efforts were about 2024 and maintaining his base

The way you fix the system is not thorough the courts and certainly not social media but through the State and Federal Election Commissions. That won't change the election results but if there is the type of fraud you claim, it can be investigated and safeguards could be put in place to prevent it. But thanks to Trump's politicizing the issue, that will not happen. I seriously doubt that not one single case of election fraud that is all over the net has been reported to any state election commission or the federal election commission.

 

[Flopper]

Just as you wouldn't hire a BLM leader to determine if the police are unfairly targeting blacks, you would not hire a cybersecurity specialist working for Trump campaign to review your electoral system. That would be downright stupid.

No. Have the Trump team come up with their findings, and have it evaluated by the other side. Might make for a good court debate.

I think if we went this route, more on my side would be willing to accept these results. Left as it is, it will create great anger, distrust in our electoral system, and may even result in violence. We are not asking to overturn the election so our guy can win. We are asking to double check to make sure all legal votes were counted, and all illegal votes tossed aside. We are asking that these judges and representatives follow their state Constitution as well as our federal Constitution. Is that asking too much?

Court is not the right place. If you go to civil court, it will be just like the 40 Trump lawsuits and you can't take it directly to criminal court. No, you have to go through the State Election Commissions. This is where election fraud is investigated, where prosecution is recommended, and changes in the system are made.

 

[bravoactual]

Arizona State Supreme Court Rejects GOP Bid To Undo Biden Win.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2020-12-08/judge-peppers-lawyer-with-questions-on-arizona-election-suit

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PHOENIX (AP) — The Arizona Supreme Court has rejected a GOP bid to undo Democrat President-elect Joe Biden's victory over President Donald Trump in the state, saying no evidence of misconduct or illegal votes was presented in a lawsuit that challenged certain ballots in metro Phoenix.

The justices said the margin between Trump and Biden wasn’t small enough to trigger an automatic recount, even with the small number of votes Trump could have lost due to problems in ballot processing. They rejected a request to inspect more ballots and cited case law that concludes the validity of elections isn’t voided by honest mistakes or omissions.
The decision upheld a lower-court’s dismissal of Chairwoman Kelli Ward’s challenge of ballots that had been duplicated because voters’ earlier ballots were damaged or could not be run through tabulators.

No evidence of voter fraud or election fraud has emerged during this election season in Arizona.

 

[bravoactual]

No Evidence of Voter Fraud or Election Fraud Has Emerged During This Election Season In Arizona.

Contrary to what Conservatives here want to believe, in order to prove Election Fraud/Election Fraud, you must first have evidence of Election Fraud/Voter Fraud.

The absence of fraud does not automatically mean there was fraud. You have to prove fraud and to prove fraud YOU MUST HAVE EVIDENCE OF FRAUD.

Cons are beating a dead issue. As it stands today (Thursday December 10, 2020) here the stats regarding 45's pointless lawsuits

1 - Win.

1- Set aside.

55 - LOST!!!!!

The Orange Draft-Dodging, Russia Loving, Gold Star Family Attacking Coward LOST!!!

No amount of fictitious ranting about "Voter Fraud" will change that result.

You cannot claim Fraud without proof of fraud. Courts require evidence of fraud.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Whether the election is actually rigged or Trump convinces voters it was rigged, the damage will have been done. There was virtual no chance of Trump changing the results. All of Trumps efforts were about 2024 and maintaining his base

The way you fix the system is not thorough the courts and certainly not social media but through the State and Federal Election Commissions. That won't change the election results but if there is the type of fraud you claim, it can be investigated and safeguards could be put in place to prevent it. But thanks to Trump's politicizing the issue, that will not happen. I seriously doubt that not one single case of election fraud that is all over the net has been reported to any state election commission or the federal election commission.

I'm sure Trump's people know who to address on these issues. Biden's win will never be accepted by a majority until there is verification that there was little or no fraud. When you use voting machines and software with the ability to easily switch votes, who can trust it?

 

[Faun]

Whether the election is actually rigged or Trump convinces voters it was rigged, the damage will have been done. There was virtual no chance of Trump changing the results. All of Trumps efforts were about 2024 and maintaining his base

The way you fix the system is not thorough the courts and certainly not social media but through the State and Federal Election Commissions. That won't change the election results but if there is the type of fraud you claim, it can be investigated and safeguards could be put in place to prevent it. But thanks to Trump's politicizing the issue, that will not happen. I seriously doubt that not one single case of election fraud that is all over the net has been reported to any state election commission or the federal election commission.

I'm sure Trump's people know who to address on these issues. Biden's win will never be accepted by a majority until there is verification that there was little or no fraud. When you use voting machines and software with the ability to easily switch votes, who can trust it?

"Biden's win will never be accepted by a majority"

LOLOL

Where the fuck do you find this nonsense?

Not to mention, there's no evidence any votes were flipped.

Not to mention, like Powell, you have it completely bassakwards. No one has to prove there was little or no fraud. You wouldn't even be suggesting such idiocy if you could prove there was widespread fraud; which the onus to prove falls upon you. "You" meaning the right.

 

[Kilroy2]

Yes an email from an unknown person was supposedly sent to a number of people.

Another person in the meeting says he saw one machine hooked up to the internet. If you saw something like that would you snap a picture with your cell phone? Hooking a cable would require a router or modem someplace in the building.

If it is to be investigated it must be done by the FBI or some other investigative team. Not by people appointed by Trump. They are biased. There has been a number of legal cases by Team Trump that have been thrown out of court. If you have deep pockets then they will try anything to see if will float.

this article and another one that I read say the same thing. I do not see it reported by any major network. I could be wrong

Still both sources I looked at says exactly what I posted. The guy who sent the email is an unknown person. He has to come forward into the spot light if he going to make such allegations. Yes he will have to prove what he said is true.

Still an unknown email is hard to swallow if your at least open to both sides of the argument.

Well you have tech guys who have to maintain the machine and check for any problems with the machines. There may be security checks. There is no logical reason for them to be hooked up to the internet. Data from the machine can be retrieved using a device and transported to where it needs to ultimately go as a record of the votes.

Also I believe that they will check these votes with the voter database to catch duplicates or unregistered names.

Well people believe in voter fraud. If you feed them misinformation then they will take it as proof especially if their guy lost. Just because they believe it does not mean it happen on such a scale that it cause Trump to lose.

Voter fraud has to be proven in a court of law. Not in the court of public opinion.

When I get time I'll have to watch the Colonel's video again. Most people, even on Trump's side stated it would be a rough sell to get the SC to hear the case. While it's pretty clear these state judges allowed violations of their state Constitution, the Supreme Court mainly deals with the US Constitution. They don't want to get involved in trying to interpret the Constitution of any particular state.

I agree the FBI should investigate, but along with Trump's tech people. The FBI in recent years has become political and part of the deep state, therefore cannot really be trusted. Speaking of which, as for reporting on it, if the shoe was on the other foot, that's all they'd be talking about.

Besides the voting allegations, the entire election just doesn't make any sense. Biden is as exciting as Bob Dole when he ran. Many voters in surveys believe that Biden does have dementia. So how did this frail and fragile old man not only get more votes than Obama, but the most votes in the history of the Untied States? Stopping the building of the wall, increasing taxes on our job producers when we need them the most, drastically increasing the cost of fuel in spite of people having the least money in a long time, increasing the national minimum wage to $15.00 an hour causing a domino effect which will bring us inflation like we haven't seen in a long time, just doesn't make any sense. Especially when he ran against a President who had the best economy in 50 years.

You have a right to your opinion

you say the below
I agree the FBI should investigate, but along with Trump's tech people. The FBI in recent years has become political and part of the deep state, therefore cannot really be trusted.

The FBI should investigate but they cannot really be trusted. Yet Trumps people can be trusted?

interesting that a guy who cannot concede defeat after losing the election, who cannot accept court challenges his people have submitted have been throw out for lack of substantial proof , and even appointed a presidential committee to look into voter fraud which disbanded after finding nothing. He is actively trying to get electors to switch their vote. He does all the things that would be considered electoral fraud but people believe he can be trusted.

 

[Kilroy2]

Nothing in the post above offers ANY proof that fraud did not occur

The dnc is really paying this shill major bucks to lie
Knowing how she engages in lies all the time and never looks at facts I have no doubt you are correct,I’m not about to read through that Bible length babble,I salute you for being able to read through that garbage Bible length babble,don’t know how you do it.

First she was pulling suitcases from under the table and right wingers claimed she was doing something fraudulent

when official says she was preparing votes to be scanned as was the rest of the people in the room which was what she was suppose to be doing. Wrong conclusion drawn by people looking for anything that will float on the internet.

Then there is a video which right wingers are saying shows a USB being passed to someone which to them indicates guilt and fraud.

Yet the video at best is inconclusive and you cannot see what was in her hand. 2nd explain how a USB could be used to commit fraud by her. Votes are check manually for completeness and validity. The vote is recorded manually. It is then boxed for later scanning into the main voting system. A scanning device is used to scan the votes Votes are counted manually and are scanned and the totals are compared. Any discrepancies has to be accounted for or recounted.

So explain how a USB in this process by a worker to commit fraud? Especially if a USB cannot even be verified that was in her hand.

Finally now the story shifts to something she did 10 years ago. You say she should not have been hired. Does the bible preach forgiveness? or is it more selective based on political rhetoric?

People make mistakes. They still need to make money in legitimate ways. Trump has pardon people who have committed murder but hey they must get on with their lives.

Still this is a country of laws. Innocent until proven guilty. If she committed fraud which is punishable then the court will determine guilt.

Wow you really love to hear yourself talk and pat yourself on the bat don’t you shill? It’s even more comical you really thought I read your babble length babble.

see I always follow this advise. I always tell all the patriot Americans here concerned about the worst election fraud that took place in mankind history to follow my advise,ignorantly they don’t and they feed you guys though too dense to figure out you shills have paid to come here and troll these boards and lie at every turn to try and derail any truth discussion on this and sense so many here are dense and feed you trolls,you accomplish the job your boss pays you for.

Try some else to take your Bait and address your bible length babble,I don’t waste my time with shills like you especially Bible length babble and bs.

Can you repeat that as you mention babble a lot. I would suspect you understand babble as you engage in it as a matter of having nothing to support what you believe. Yeah don't forget the disagree button. Keeps it simple for those in need.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You have a right to your opinion

you say the below
I agree the FBI should investigate, but along with Trump's tech people. The FBI in recent years has become political and part of the deep state, therefore cannot really be trusted.

The FBI should investigate but they cannot really be trusted. Yet Trumps people can be trusted?

interesting that a guy who cannot concede defeat after losing the election, who cannot accept court challenges his people have submitted have been throw out for lack of substantial proof , and even appointed a presidential committee to look into voter fraud which disbanded after finding nothing. He is actively trying to get electors to switch their vote. He does all the things that would be considered electoral fraud but people believe he can be trusted.

Actually there are a bunch of states (I believe up to 14 now) banning together that want these cases looked at for a violation of our federal Constitution. Who knows how well that will go. Trump has every right to try and get this looked into. It's the most fraudulent election in our history. If this were a normal election with normal F-ups, I would agree Trump should just give it up. But when you have dozens of things that simply don't add up, how can you blame Trump?

I don't think he's going to get this overturned. However I would like it so they fix the system so it never happens again. Mail in voting, especially the way some states have done it, opens the door to election to fraud ten times more than usual. The Dominion machines should all be scrapped for a system where no election rigging is possible, not use software designed to be rigged.