Cuomo Has Blood On His Hands

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nursing homes are not equipped to utilize Isolation or ICU rooms. They are long term nursing facilities.

At a NY nursing home forced to take COVID-19 patients, 24 residents have died

“It’s reckless and careless,” said the granddaughter of a 96-year-old man whose family withdrew him from a Long Island nursing home.

www.nbcnews.com

"“We find the New York state advisory to be over-reaching, not consistent with science, unenforceable, and beyond all, not in the least consistent with patient safety principles,” the Society for Post-Acute and Long-Term Care Medicine, which represents medical professionals who work in nursing homes, said in a statement."
"The American Health Care Association, which represents long-term care facilities, added: "The bottom line is that nursing homes are not a priority in the public health system and this policy reflects that.”"

No one who needs an ICU bed is getting sent to the nursing home. These are patients who are medically stable for discharge from the hospital. Yes, nursing homes are required to be equipped to keep patients isolated.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

 

[MarathonMike]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

 

[MarathonMike]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nursing homes are not equipped to utilize Isolation or ICU rooms. They are long term nursing facilities.

At a NY nursing home forced to take COVID-19 patients, 24 residents have died

“It’s reckless and careless,” said the granddaughter of a 96-year-old man whose family withdrew him from a Long Island nursing home.

www.nbcnews.com

"“We find the New York state advisory to be over-reaching, not consistent with science, unenforceable, and beyond all, not in the least consistent with patient safety principles,” the Society for Post-Acute and Long-Term Care Medicine, which represents medical professionals who work in nursing homes, said in a statement."
"The American Health Care Association, which represents long-term care facilities, added: "The bottom line is that nursing homes are not a priority in the public health system and this policy reflects that.”"

No one who needs an ICU bed is getting sent to the nursing home. These are patients who are medically stable for discharge from the hospital. Yes, nursing homes are required to be equipped to keep patients isolated.

There is no defense for what Cuomo did. If one of your parents died in one of those nursing homes, you would be furious and rightly so.

 

[depotoo]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Uhh, nursing homes are for those too ill to care for themselves, not for virus protection.

 

[MarathonMike]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

So now you are blaming the nursing homes for not being equipped to handle a bio attack? Keep digging that hole.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

These people don't need hospital wards. They need isolation. Nursing homes are required to be able to isolate patients.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative pressure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forced nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumo's order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Uhh, nursing homes are for those too ill to care for themselves, not for virus protection.

And if they want to take care of patients, then they need to be able to isolate them.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative presure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forec nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumos order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

Negative pressure is not required for isolation of COVID patients unless they're undergoing an aerosolizing procedure.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

These people don't need hospital wards. They need isolation. Nursing homes are required to be able to isolate patients.

WRONG!

Federal regulations prohibit nursing homes from housing contagious persons. They are required to send them to a hospital for continuous care. Coumo was trying not to use the thousands of beds that trump set up for him. What Coumo did is unconscionable as he had a place that was set up to send these people to for long term care.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative presure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forec nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumos order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

Negative pressure is not required for isolation of COVID patients unless they're undergoing an aerosolizing procedure.

It is with Covid-19 when there are high risk patients around.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

These people don't need hospital wards. They need isolation. Nursing homes are required to be able to isolate patients.

WRONG!

Federal regulations prohibit nursing homes from housing contagious persons. They are required to send them to a hospital for continuous care. Coumo was trying not to use the thousands of beds that trump set up for him. What Coumo did is unconscionable as he had a place that was set up to send these people to for long term care.

You're making things up.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative presure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forec nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumos order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

Negative pressure is not required for isolation of COVID patients unless they're undergoing an aerosolizing procedure.

It is with Covid-19 when there are high risk patients around.

Negative pressure is for aerosolized infections. COVID is not aerosolized unless they're undergoing procedures which do not occur in nursing homes. There shouldn't be high risk patients around because they should be in ISOLATION.

Didn't they teach you that at EMT school?

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative presure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forec nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumos order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

Negative pressure is not required for isolation of COVID patients unless they're undergoing an aerosolizing procedure.

It is with Covid-19 when there are high risk patients around.

Negative pressure is for aerosolized infections. COVID is not aerosolized unless they're undergoing procedures which do not occur in nursing homes. There shouldn't be high risk patients around because they should be in ISOLATION.

Didn't they teach you that at EMT school?

Droplet infection happens even in normal breathing. Did they not teach you that in your cracker jack box course?

DHS did a study which shows that coughing and breathing, where air flow is not controlled, allow spread up to 35 feet of active virus.

 

[Billy_Bob]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

These people don't need hospital wards. They need isolation. Nursing homes are required to be able to isolate patients.

WRONG!

Federal regulations prohibit nursing homes from housing contagious persons. They are required to send them to a hospital for continuous care. Coumo was trying not to use the thousands of beds that trump set up for him. What Coumo did is unconscionable as he had a place that was set up to send these people to for long term care.

You're making things up.

I guess you do not understand what "SCOPE OF PRACTICE" is.... Its fundamental to all of healthcare and they must act within their licensing and scope of practice. Very few nursing homes have scope of practice regulations which allow housing of extremely contagious persons.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Just wow...

The nursing homes warned Coumo that they were NOT set up to handle infectious people. They BEGGED him to change his order. He was well informed that COVID-19 was lethal to this population. This is negligent homicide and he has no protections as he was informed on multiple occasions. The state is going to have to pay big time for this..

If a nursing home can't keep people in isolation, they need to be shut down.

Very few nursing homes have negative presure isolation areas. They are not required under the federal regulations. Coumo knew this and still forec nursing homes to take people who were airborne virus infected and contagious. They NEVER should have left the hospitals and negative pressure containment areas.

Coumos order killed thousands of the elderly who were most at risk of this virus.

Negative pressure is not required for isolation of COVID patients unless they're undergoing an aerosolizing procedure.

It is with Covid-19 when there are high risk patients around.

Negative pressure is for aerosolized infections. COVID is not aerosolized unless they're undergoing procedures which do not occur in nursing homes. There shouldn't be high risk patients around because they should be in ISOLATION.

Didn't they teach you that at EMT school?

Droplet infection happens even in normal breathing. Did they not teach you that in your cracker jack box course?

DHS did a study which shows that coughing and breathing, where air flow is not controlled, allow spread up to 35 feet of active virus.

Droplet and aerosol are two different things.
Aerosol requires negative pressure.
Droplet does not require negative pressure.

 

[colfax_m]

DIRECTING the infected old people back into nursing homes.

Where they were to be kept in isolation.

Nonsense. A nursing home is not a hospital ward they are not set up for medical isolation.

These people don't need hospital wards. They need isolation. Nursing homes are required to be able to isolate patients.

WRONG!

Federal regulations prohibit nursing homes from housing contagious persons. They are required to send them to a hospital for continuous care. Coumo was trying not to use the thousands of beds that trump set up for him. What Coumo did is unconscionable as he had a place that was set up to send these people to for long term care.

You're making things up.

I guess you do not understand what "SCOPE OF PRACTICE" is.... Its fundamental to all of healthcare and they must act within their licensing and scope of practice. Very few nursing homes have scope of practice regulations which allow housing of extremely contagious persons.

Keeping COVID patients within isolation is indeed part of their regulated scope of practice. In fact, it's a requirement.

 

[colfax_m]

Look, at the end of the day this is about money.

Nursing homes don't want to spend the money to set up isolation rooms with the appropriate equipment and staff. They want to force the hospitals to keep their residents in their hospital for the duration of their infection even though they may not require inpatient treatment. This is while the hospitals were overflowing with patients and critically short on staff and supplies. But we're supposed to keep patients sitting in beds for no other reason than it would cost the nursing home money.

In an ideal world, sure, everyone would be able to convalesce in a hospital bed, but we don't live in a perfect world. There are finite resources.