DACA illegals sue trump for welfare

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

 

[pknopp]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

 

[Meathead]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

no one forced them to come here
no one forced them to take low pay jobs
If America is such an evil place taking advantage of them why did they come
and by the way they are suing for welfare Food Stamps isn't part of welfare
if any kid goes hungry here in America it is the parents fault not the government

No, no one is forced to come here but the vast majority of us would seek to improve our position in life when offered, especially when you have kids.

If someone offers me a better job than what I have, I'm going to look at taking it. Is that really a bad thing?

If they have been offered a job they can certainly present that offer to immigration authorities and get a work visa.

That's not how business wants it. If they did that the job offer is rescinded. Business that hires these people are not interested in paying a legal wage, with taxes and all that goes along with that.

So you're saying that is they don't have jobs and want to enter the country illegally, work illegally and have the US taxpayer feed, educate and provide health care for their spawn.

 

[pknopp]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

no one forced them to come here
no one forced them to take low pay jobs
If America is such an evil place taking advantage of them why did they come
and by the way they are suing for welfare Food Stamps isn't part of welfare
if any kid goes hungry here in America it is the parents fault not the government

No, no one is forced to come here but the vast majority of us would seek to improve our position in life when offered, especially when you have kids.

If someone offers me a better job than what I have, I'm going to look at taking it. Is that really a bad thing?

If they have been offered a job they can certainly present that offer to immigration authorities and get a work visa.

That's not how business wants it. If they did that the job offer is rescinded. Business that hires these people are not interested in paying a legal wage, with taxes and all that goes along with that.

So you're saying that is they don't have jobs and want to enter the country illegally, work illegally and have the US taxpayer feed, educate and provide health care for their spawn.

Yes, that is the offer. Come here to work and this is what you get. Most of us would consider the offer if in the same position.

Except I did not say they did not have jobs. They are being offered a better position.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only thing that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

 

[pknopp]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only this that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

Again, we are NOT going to jail employers. We are going to do nothing to employers. In theory I completely support that. I've argued we should heavily fine and jail those who hire illegals. It's obvious we will not so.........

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only this that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

Again, we are NOT going to jail employers. We are going to do nothing to employers. In theory I completely support that. I've argued we should heavily fine and jail those who hire illegals. It's obvious we will not so.........

You can accept failure if you like. Myself I will continue to advocate for what's right

 

[BrokeLoser]

Nope...no semantics allowed either...let this be as simple as it is.

the difference between being a citizen or a guest worker is not simple semantics.

We either reward children for their parents criminality or we essentially unwind the criminal act(s) and revoke any all benefit as a result of said criminal act(s).
Come on man...this isn’t really confusing for you is it? FEELZ got you by the nuts on this one?

There is no confusion. There is no logic to punishing the child of a criminal for the parents crime. Doing so is based upon your hatred of brown people, or as you call it "FEELZ".

I presented a logical compromise plan and you reject it outright. That is on you, not me.

Conversely, there is no logic in rewarding children in ANY way for crimes committed by parents. Your “logical compromise” is nothing but a ‘kinda reward’ for the parents criminal act.
It’s silly in principle, silly in practice and it’s definitely not part of the foundation of America. Where do you see things going....Following your position, one could easily make the argument that children of criminals are “PUNISHED” each time a criminal parent is prosecuted for criminal acts...no?

 

[pknopp]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only this that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

Again, we are NOT going to jail employers. We are going to do nothing to employers. In theory I completely support that. I've argued we should heavily fine and jail those who hire illegals. It's obvious we will not so.........

You can accept failure if you like. Myself I will continue to advocate for what's right

You might advocate for it but you aren't going to do anything that would actually enact it.

 

[OnePercenter]

I didn't know kids qualified for food stamps, isn't that adults? I'm just saying this is like quicksand.

It is kids.

so? aren't there american kids in worse shape? why do you ignore american kids? curious, you really hate america huh?

I support programs for all struggling kids.

I think we should concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS.

Again, when those programs are forwarded the reply is "SOCIALISM"!!

How does "concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS" be socialism?

 

[OnePercenter]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

no one forced them to come here
no one forced them to take low pay jobs
If America is such an evil place taking advantage of them why did they come
and by the way they are suing for welfare Food Stamps isn't part of welfare
if any kid goes hungry here in America it is the parents fault not the government

No, no one is forced to come here but the vast majority of us would seek to improve our position in life when offered, especially when you have kids.

If someone offers me a better job than what I have, I'm going to look at taking it. Is that really a bad thing?

Poverty isn't a force that would bring people to the US?

 

[DBA]

It blows my mind how people support importing dead weight..
Like we dont have enough already

Pretty simple really...Liberals just aren't very smart. We have established that.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

In return???

How bout we follow the law and DEPORT THEM.

/THREAD

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only this that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

Again, we are NOT going to jail employers. We are going to do nothing to employers. In theory I completely support that. I've argued we should heavily fine and jail those who hire illegals. It's obvious we will not so.........

You can accept failure if you like. Myself I will continue to advocate for what's right

You might advocate for it but you aren't going to do anything that would actually enact it.

I vote for the people that are as closely aligned to my position as possible. And as a business owner I refuse to hire them and have reported them when on commercial jobsites.
So yes, I do my part.

 

[rjs330]

I’m not real sure...what course of action do you think they should take should SCOTUS fuck up?
Certainly you don’t think we are a nation that rewards children for their parents criminality...right?

I am torn on the whole issue.

I do not want to reward them for their parents actions, but I also do not think we should punish them for their parent's actions. I mean I would never hold your actions against your kids, they did not get to choose their parents.

How about we split the difference, if they are here and a gainfully employed productive member of society we let them stay, the ones that do not fit this description we boot out.

Do you support reparations? If so, then that is punishing children for ancestors actions. If not, nevermind.

 

[pknopp]

It is kids.

so? aren't there american kids in worse shape? why do you ignore american kids? curious, you really hate america huh?

I support programs for all struggling kids.

I think we should concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS.

Again, when those programs are forwarded the reply is "SOCIALISM"!!

How does "concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS" be socialism?

Universal Health Care would be a huge benefit for American kids.

 

[OnePercenter]

Trump does more against illegals than anyone else but he doesnt do near enough. Like going after employers.

Trump does more against illegals than anyone else but he doesnt do near enough. Like going after employers.

You mean giving an illegal a job to make his bed?

he should actually send them back to their country. how's that.

So we should let the employers that hire them (which is the reason that they are here) go free?

Democrats have shown the biggest opposition to e-verify legislation

Nobody is pushing e-verify. It never gets mentioned by anyone.

Really?

Home

 

[TRFjr]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

no one forced them to come here
no one forced them to take low pay jobs
If America is such an evil place taking advantage of them why did they come
and by the way they are suing for welfare Food Stamps isn't part of welfare
if any kid goes hungry here in America it is the parents fault not the government

No, no one is forced to come here but the vast majority of us would seek to improve our position in life when offered, especially when you have kids.

If someone offers me a better job than what I have, I'm going to look at taking it. Is that really a bad thing?

if you are starving and someone offers you a hamburger you don't throw it in the trash and demand a steak

 

[pknopp]

This gets so old. It's impossible to deport 10-40 million people even if we wanted to. Since we don't it's even less of a valid position. A solution that is not a solution is not a solution.

It is not impossible. ELIMINATE ALL possible aid. Jail employers who hire them. Refuse admittance into public schools.

The only this that's impossible is rationalizing with a devout leftist

Again, we are NOT going to jail employers. We are going to do nothing to employers. In theory I completely support that. I've argued we should heavily fine and jail those who hire illegals. It's obvious we will not so.........

You can accept failure if you like. Myself I will continue to advocate for what's right

You might advocate for it but you aren't going to do anything that would actually enact it.

I vote for the people that are as closely aligned to my position as possible. And as a business owner I refuse to hire them and have reported them when on commercial jobsites.
So yes, I do my part.

Those people you support are lying to you.

 

[pknopp]

Their parents are working their assess off for businesses and corporations making very low wages so that "shareholders" can continue to get increasing returns. In return we can at least make sure their kids can eat.

no one forced them to come here
no one forced them to take low pay jobs
If America is such an evil place taking advantage of them why did they come
and by the way they are suing for welfare Food Stamps isn't part of welfare
if any kid goes hungry here in America it is the parents fault not the government

No, no one is forced to come here but the vast majority of us would seek to improve our position in life when offered, especially when you have kids.

If someone offers me a better job than what I have, I'm going to look at taking it. Is that really a bad thing?

if you are starving and someone offers you a hamburger you don't throw it in the trash and demand a steak

Blueberries.

 

[OnePercenter]

so? aren't there american kids in worse shape? why do you ignore american kids? curious, you really hate america huh?

I support programs for all struggling kids.

I think we should concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS.

Again, when those programs are forwarded the reply is "SOCIALISM"!!

How does "concentrate more on AMERICAN KIDS" be socialism?

Universal Health Care would be a huge benefit for American kids.

No. Single payer, a non-profit private company such as Kaiser to do negotiations with providers would be beneficial to all Americans.