December 7th Never Forget

[insolent imp]

It says thou shall not murder. Big difference. If I kill someone who is attacking me I have not violated one of the 10 commandments.

if you kill then you've violated the commandments. then it becomes a problem between you, God and man.

 

[g5000]

Decrypting the Japanese Cipher Couldn’t Prevent Pearl Harbor

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[M14 Shooter]

if you kill then you've violated the commandments

So... all the people God had wage war in His name violated the commandment against killing?

 

[g5000]

if you kill then you've violated the commandments. then it becomes a problem between you, God and man.

“Thou shalt not kill” vs. “Thou shalt not murder”

When I lecture on the First Crusade in my courses at Florida State College at Jacksonville, I occasionally get a question from one of my students along the lines of “How could Christians do this?” …

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“When the Lord your God brings you into the land you are entering to possess and drives out before you many nations…then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them and show them no mercy.” (Deuteronomy 7:1-2)

“…do not leave alive anything that breaths. Completely destroy them…as the Lord your God has commanded you…” Deuteronomy 20:16

“This is what the Lord Almighty says… ‘Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’” (1 Samuel 15:3)

“Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

 

[insolent imp]

Joshua got the command straight from God.
If you believe the Bible.
And, apparently, you do.

Fact remains: You win wars by killing people and breaking things.
That's not going to change.

I believe in quite a few religious texts. And I don't believe Joshua was visited direct by God. He in his mind was fulfilling prophecy.

 

[insolent imp]

So... all the people God had wage war in His name violated the commandment against killing?

yes
a lot of atrocities throughout history has been done in the name of one God or the other.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I believe in quite a few religious texts. And I don't believe Joshua was visited direct by God.

Why, specifically, do you believe Abraham and Moses, but not Joshua?

 

[M14 Shooter]

yes
a lot of atrocities throughout history has been done in the name of one God or the other.

God commanded those people to wage war.
Thus
God commanded those people to break His commandments.
How does that square?

 

[insolent imp]

Why, specifically, do you believe Abraham and Moses, but not Joshua?

I believe there have been true men of God in many different religions but any MAN who tells me to go against God's explicit instruction isn't a man of God.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I believe there have been true men of God in many different religions but any MAN who tells me to go against God's explicit instruction isn't a man of God.

OK...
Why, specifically, do you believe Abraham and Moses, but not Joshua?
To argue that Joshua is not a man of God because he broke His commandmens necesssisates you believe Moses actually received His commandments from God.
That is, you believe Joshua is lying and Moses is not.
How do you know?

 

[insolent imp]

God commanded those people to wage war.
Thus
God commanded those people to break His commandments.
How does that square?

No Joshua told the jews that God told HIM to do it. it's the same problems we still have in religion people trying to speak FOR god.

 

[insolent imp]

OK...
Why, specifically, do you believe Abraham and Moses, but not Joshua?

context of the writings in the Bible. It is claimed that God himself talked to Moses directly.

 

[M14 Shooter]

context of the writings in the Bible. It is claimed that God himself talked to Moses directly.

And to Joshua. Directly..

To argue that Joshua is not a man of God because he broke His commandments necessitates you believe Moses actually received His commandments from God.
That is, you believe Joshua is lying and Moses is not.
How do you know?

 

[M14 Shooter]

No Joshua told the jews that God told HIM to do it.

Moses told the Jews God gave HIM the commandments.
No difference.

 

[insolent imp]

And to Joshua. Directly..

To argue that Joshua is not a man of God because he broke His commandments necessitates you believe Moses actually received His commandments from God.
That is, you believe Joshua is lying and Moses is not.
How do you know?

And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?

14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.

 

[M14 Shooter]

And Moses said unto God...

According to Moses.
Joshua said God commanded him to wage war.
You believe Joshua is lying and Moses is not.
How do you know?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

And there we have it: "Some" dead civilians are acceptable.
Do you know why the west - primarily the US - developed "smart" munitions?
2 main reasons.
Care to guess?

No such thing. Don't be so gullible. The weapons are no smarter than the human operating them.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

if you kill a 100 people at Walmart it's murder
if you kill 100 people because the government said so its patriotic.
God said thou shalt not kill and I don't think there's an asterisk on that.

Shove your pixie dust fairy tales where the sun don't shine lol.

 

[insolent imp]

According to Moses.
Joshua said God commanded him to wage war.
You believe Joshua is lying and Moses is not.
How do you know?

Joshua SAID ..
Isn't that how televangelist make money to this day? God said to me buy me a jet.
Moses on the other hand supposedly talked to God directly. I know the stories, was I there ? No

 

[insolent imp]

Shove your pixie dust fairy tales where the sun don't shine lol.

or what?