December 7th Never Forget

[insolent imp]

In the age of modern warfare, it is inevitable.

I think killing a million civilians in a conflict is just plain evil.

 

[gipper]

Often claimed, and just as often, left unproven.

All well proven, you just need to look for it.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I think killing a million civilians in a conflict is just plain evil.

And?
Aside from blowing up ships and tanks, you win wars by destroying factories, power plants, dams, rail yards, ports and any number of other perfectly legitimate targets..
When 1000-2000lb warheads start going off, civilians die. Can't be helped.

 

[M14 Shooter]

All well proven, you just need to look for it.

Thank you for admitting you cannot prove your claim

 

[insolent imp]

And?
Aside from blowing up ships and tanks, you win wars by destroying factories, power plants, dams, rail yards, ports and any number of other perfectly legitimate targets..
When 1000-2000lb warheads start going off, civilians die. Can't be helped.

or destroying entire cities with no military value?

 

[M14 Shooter]

or destroying entire cities with no military value?

Cities always have some military value, because cities always have factories, power plants, dams, rail yards, ports and any number of other perfectly legitimate targets..
Optimally, you'd like to reduce collateral damage, but when 1000-2000lb warheads start going off, you can only do so much.

 

[Unkotare]

...
Optimally, you'd like to reduce collateral damage, ....

Hmmmmmm........not always, it seems.

 

[strollingbones]

 

[insolent imp]

Cities always have some military value, because cities always have factories, power plants, dams, rail yards, ports and any number of other perfectly legitimate targets..
Optimally, you'd like to reduce collateral damage, but when 1000-2000lb warheads start going off, you can only do so much.

I'm sure the 226000 civilians who died in Japan would disagree.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I'm sure the 226000 civilians who died in Japan would disagree.

Irrelevant to the issue.
In war, civilians die. Can't be helped.
The blame for those dead Japanese civilians rests squarely on the shorlders of those who decided to go to war with the US.

 

[gipper]

Thank you for admitting you cannot prove your claim

I could prove it seven days to Sunday and you’d still cling to your ignorance. You can’t accept the truth. Too many Americans like you, which allows the ruling class to continue to lie and deceive.

We have a member on this board who posts often and wrote a well documented book proving it.

No doubt you know nothing about this book either.

 

[insolent imp]

Irrelevant to the issue.
In war, civilians die. Can't be helped.
The blame for those dead Japanese civilians rests squarely on the shorlders of those who decided to go to war with the US.

many civilians caught in the middle doesn't give a shit who their government decides to war with. They just wanna live.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I could prove it seven days to Sunday....

Good. Get on with it.

We have a member on this board who posts often and wrote a well documented book proving it.

Nothing in those books proves your claim.
Disagree?
Copy / paste the text that effect.

 

[M14 Shooter]

many civilians caught in the middle doesn't give a shit who their government decides to war with. They just wanna live.

Irrelevant to the issue.
In war, civilians die. Can't be helped.

 

[insolent imp]

Irrelevant to the issue.
In war, civilians die. Can't be helped.

what a strange an ignorant concept war is. It took me years to clear out the mental bullshit the military brainwashed me into thinking and believing.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

In the age of modern warfare, it is inevitable.

Not really. Bomb the leaders/military personal property and all their government institutions.

 

[M14 Shooter]

what a strange an ignorant concept war is.

War is an outgrowth of human nature.
Don;t like it? Go someplace where it can't happen.

Fact remains: You win wars by killing people and breaking things.
That's not going to change.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Not really. Bomb the leaders/military personal property and all their government institutions.

This will kill civilians.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

I think killing a million civilians in a conflict is just plain evil.

Japan's casualties are Japan's fault.
Poke the beehive get stung to death.

/debate

 

[insolent imp]

War is an outgrowth of human nature.
Don;t like it? Go someplace where it can't happen.

Fact remains: You win wars by killing people and breaking things.
That's not going to change.

To my knowledge there isn't any place on planet earth to hide from war and conflict of some kind.