Deficit Donald's Nation Busting Budget: $4.7 Trillion!!!

[danielpalos]

Out of control spending its only bad when the other side does it. How many left right or center would truly be willing to do what would be necessary to start to deal with the national debt? To me this would require tax hikes on everyone not just the rich across the board spending cuts nothing off the table and these would have to be maintained for decades.

the left is for raising the minimum wage, which will generate more tax revenue.

 

[Redfish]

I worship no one but God and his son Jesus Christ.

If you don't like Trump as a person, that's just fine and it doesn't matter, he is doing the job of president and taking on important issues that were ignored by his predecessors. No other recent president has taken on the trade deficit with China and the EU, no other has opened a dialog with north korea, no other had demanded that the other NATO members pay their fair share. No other has exposed the corrupt DC establishment in both parties-----and that's why both parties and the corrupt lying media hate him.

Bush did some stupid stuff, but Obama was clearly the worst president in my lifetime, and I go back to Truman (the last democrat president with balls).

Bush was clearly the worst. You show how partisan stupid you are. We were in good shape when bush took office and a disaster when he left. Obama brought us to a pretty good situation. Trump inherited a lot of good.

yep, Bush inherited 9/11 as a result of Clintons incompetence, recovering from that hurt the economy for a long time. Obama doubled the debt, how the fuck is that a good situation?

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

how much debt did Bush 43 add? Obama added 10 trillion. What was the debt when bush took office and when he left? Did he add 10 trillion? Don't think so. I was not happy when Bush increased the debt and said so at the time. But comparing his actual dollar increase to Obama's shows who really did the damage.

Funny, earlier you claimed to be non partisan, but every thing you post is partisan.

 

[Blues Man]

well good for you. but you are not being completely truthful here. You have been much more vocal when republicans were in office and kind of quiet when the Kenyan messiah was ruling the nation. As someone else said, if Hillary had won we would not be hearing anything from you lefties about the debt.

you are left of me, so calling me a lefity is pretty stupid.

As for Obama, I have said 100 times on this forum now that he was the 2nd worst POTUS in the history of the country.

quit projecting your dishonesty on to me.

if that's who you are, why do you take the left side of every discussion. I think you are lying to us.

But we do agree on Obama as one of the worst, FDR may have done more damage, but Obama was a traitor, so that makes him the worst.

as like most Trump worshipers you equate to not liking Trump to "taking the left side".

Bush II was the worst, followed very closely by Obama.

I worship no one but God and his son Jesus Christ.

If you don't like Trump as a person, that's just fine and it doesn't matter, he is doing the job of president and taking on important issues that were ignored by his predecessors. No other recent president has taken on the trade deficit with China and the EU, no other has opened a dialog with north korea, no other had demanded that the other NATO members pay their fair share. No other has exposed the corrupt DC establishment in both parties-----and that's why both parties and the corrupt lying media hate him.

Bush did some stupid stuff, but Obama was clearly the worst president in my lifetime, and I go back to Truman (the last democrat president with balls).

Bush was clearly the worst. You show how partisan stupid you are. We were in good shape when bush took office and a disaster when he left. Obama brought us to a pretty good situation. Trump inherited a lot of good.

Don't forget to factor in that the 2008 too big to fail fiasco was actually possible because Clinton repealed Glass Steagal. ANd the real estate bubble was created because the Fed held interest rates at near zero instead of allowing them to rise which would have slowed down the housing market which would have led to more sustainable growth.

And in 2001 Bush inherited the Dot Bomb bubble that burst right after he came into office

The problem you people have is that you think in 4 year chunks and that nothing that happened before any one president's term matters

 

[danielpalos]

Look at the entitlements in democrat run towns

lol

Red Herring fallacy; the thread is about Trump the "fiscal conservative."

Too funny.

Well should he defund your garbage social programs?

We should defund your useless wars.

 

[Redfish]

yep, Bush inherited 9/11 as a result of Clintons incompetence, recovering from that hurt the economy for a long time. Obama doubled the debt, how the fuck is that a good situation?

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

Bush II and BHO were terrible presidents unfortunately.

Yep, invading Iraq and the aftermath is what sets Bush II above Obama in the worst ever category

I agree that going into Iraq was a mistake, but both parties in congress authorized and funded it. Bush did not do it alone. I wish you would stop rewriting history.

 

[danielpalos]

Trump proposes $4.7 trillion budget

President Trump is releasing a $4.7 trillion budget plan Monday that stands as a sharp challenge to Congress and the Democrats trying to unseat him, the first act in a multi-front struggle that could consume Washington for the next 18 months.



$4.7 TRILLION!!!


The Party Of Small Government and Fiscal Responsibility. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

The libtardos want 73 Trillion for the new green deal and 32 Trillion over the next 10 years for socialized medicine then rail on Trump for wanting a couple hundred billion increase in the budget.

AOC the economist and her minions are best comedy since bernie and Hillaryous debates.

"B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Democrats!"

BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

I can hear your paws slapping over your simian face from here.

My bad, Trump blows through Obama's last year by .... ONE.SEVEN TRILLION

Why should we take the right wing seriously if they don't understand Why Obama ran the deficits he did. Barely felt the past recession?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Bush was clearly the worst. You show how partisan stupid you are. We were in good shape when bush took office and a disaster when he left. Obama brought us to a pretty good situation. Trump inherited a lot of good.

yep, Bush inherited 9/11 as a result of Clintons incompetence, recovering from that hurt the economy for a long time. Obama doubled the debt, how the fuck is that a good situation?

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

how much debt did Bush 43 add? Obama added 10 trillion. What was the debt when bush took office and when he left? Did he add 10 trillion? Don't think so. I was not happy when Bush increased the debt and said so at the time. But comparing his actual dollar increase to Obama's shows who really did the damage.

Funny, earlier you claimed to be non partisan, but every thing you post is partisan.

Facts are not partisan...that is why you hate them.


On the first day of Bush II's first FY budget the national debt stood at $5,806,151,389,190
On the last day of Bush II's lasty FY budget the national debt stood at $11,909,829,003,511.

What that means is that Bush II added more to the debt than every POTUS before him COMBINED

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

Bush II and BHO were terrible presidents unfortunately.

Yep, invading Iraq and the aftermath is what sets Bush II above Obama in the worst ever category

I agree that going into Iraq was a mistake, but both parties in congress authorized and funded it. Bush did not do it alone. I wish you would stop rewriting history.

It was Bush II's decision, he was the Decider. He as the CIC that ordered the invasion of Iraq. You cannot bring yourself to say an actual bad thing about any Repub, you are a joke.

 

[danielpalos]

That is not true. At all.

What those phony economics writers always do is leave out shit that is inconvenient for them when adding up the numbers for dimocrap scum.

Like the Lying Cocksucker's 3 TRILLION DOLLAR Stimulus package.

I've read them. All of them.

The facts are simple..... Republicans are much better at controlling spending than are dimocraps.

Why do you think the DJIA is up..... What? 45%? In two years all because of Trump.

Why do Americans feel they're better off than they've ever been??

Your politics are dead. Finished, Kaput. Finito.

Nobody believes you anymore.

Nobody takes the right wing seriously about economics. Trends were up not down when Your guy took office.

 

[Redfish]

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

Bush II and BHO were terrible presidents unfortunately.

Yep, invading Iraq and the aftermath is what sets Bush II above Obama in the worst ever category

I agree that going into Iraq was a mistake, but both parties in congress authorized and funded it. Bush did not do it alone. I wish you would stop rewriting history.

It was Bush II's decision, he was the Decider. He as the CIC that ordered the invasion of Iraq. You cannot bring yourself to say an actual bad thing about any Repub, you are a joke.

Yes, he made the call and it was a dumb call. Happy now? But he could not have made that call if congress had not authorized and funded it. Can you bring yourself to acknowledge that? probably not.

 

[danielpalos]

Trump proposes $4.7 trillion budget

President Trump is releasing a $4.7 trillion budget plan Monday that stands as a sharp challenge to Congress and the Democrats trying to unseat him, the first act in a multi-front struggle that could consume Washington for the next 18 months.



$4.7 TRILLION!!!


The Party Of Small Government and Fiscal Responsibility. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

You weren't concerned when O was blowing out the debt. Your little croc tears dry up before they hit the ground. Lol. Waaa waaa.

Already forgot the recession on the democrats watch?

 

[Redfish]

yep, Bush inherited 9/11 as a result of Clintons incompetence, recovering from that hurt the economy for a long time. Obama doubled the debt, how the fuck is that a good situation?

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

how much debt did Bush 43 add? Obama added 10 trillion. What was the debt when bush took office and when he left? Did he add 10 trillion? Don't think so. I was not happy when Bush increased the debt and said so at the time. But comparing his actual dollar increase to Obama's shows who really did the damage.

Funny, earlier you claimed to be non partisan, but every thing you post is partisan.

Facts are not partisan...that is why you hate them.


On the first day of Bush II's first FY budget the national debt stood at $5,806,151,389,190
On the last day of Bush II's lasty FY budget the national debt stood at $11,909,829,003,511.

What that means is that Bush II added more to the debt than every POTUS before him COMBINED

Ok, if those numbers are correct, and I'm not going to check them, then Bush added 6 trillion and Obama added 10 trillion. Is 10 more or less than 6?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

Bush II and BHO were terrible presidents unfortunately.

Yep, invading Iraq and the aftermath is what sets Bush II above Obama in the worst ever category

I agree that going into Iraq was a mistake, but both parties in congress authorized and funded it. Bush did not do it alone. I wish you would stop rewriting history.

It was Bush II's decision, he was the Decider. He as the CIC that ordered the invasion of Iraq. You cannot bring yourself to say an actual bad thing about any Repub, you are a joke.

I was iffy on the invasion but the fact that we did not have an exit strategy was mind boggling and expensive in terms of money and lives.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And then Bush invaded the wrong country, a a result of his own incompetence.

Bush II added a higher percent to the debt than did Obama...you are aware of that...right?

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

how much debt did Bush 43 add? Obama added 10 trillion. What was the debt when bush took office and when he left? Did he add 10 trillion? Don't think so. I was not happy when Bush increased the debt and said so at the time. But comparing his actual dollar increase to Obama's shows who really did the damage.

Funny, earlier you claimed to be non partisan, but every thing you post is partisan.

Facts are not partisan...that is why you hate them.


On the first day of Bush II's first FY budget the national debt stood at $5,806,151,389,190
On the last day of Bush II's lasty FY budget the national debt stood at $11,909,829,003,511.

What that means is that Bush II added more to the debt than every POTUS before him COMBINED

Ok, if those numbers are correct, and I'm not going to check them, then Bush added 6 trillion and Obama added 10 trillion. Is 10 more or less than 6?

Obama start and finish numbers...11,920,519,164,319----19,844,760,368,365...only 7.9 trillion added...which is more than 6 but not more than 6 when you account for the rate of inflation.

Look, Obama sucked, 2nd worst ever. But by every matrix Bush II was far worse.


all my numbers come from the Govt....Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

 

[Harpy Eagle]

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

Bush II and BHO were terrible presidents unfortunately.

Yep, invading Iraq and the aftermath is what sets Bush II above Obama in the worst ever category

I agree that going into Iraq was a mistake, but both parties in congress authorized and funded it. Bush did not do it alone. I wish you would stop rewriting history.

It was Bush II's decision, he was the Decider. He as the CIC that ordered the invasion of Iraq. You cannot bring yourself to say an actual bad thing about any Repub, you are a joke.

I was iffy on the invasion but the fact that we did not have an exit strategy was mind boggling and expensive in terms of money and lives.

the invasion was stupid. the aftermath was criminally incompetent...in my opinion.

 

[blackhawk]

Out of control spending its only bad when the other side does it. How many left right or center would truly be willing to do what would be necessary to start to deal with the national debt? To me this would require tax hikes on everyone not just the rich across the board spending cuts nothing off the table and these would have to be maintained for decades.

the left is for raising the minimum wage, which will generate more tax revenue.

It’s also for more government programs which would negate that revenue and keep us right where we are.

 

[danielpalos]

Obama ran up more debt than any previous President COMBINED, but that was OK, right?

Yes, it was. We had a Recession you already forgot.

 

[MedfordMan]

Trump proposes $4.7 trillion budget

President Trump is releasing a $4.7 trillion budget plan Monday that stands as a sharp challenge to Congress and the Democrats trying to unseat him, the first act in a multi-front struggle that could consume Washington for the next 18 months.



$4.7 TRILLION!!!


The Party Of Small Government and Fiscal Responsibility. BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

the timing of this post is a bit ironic, as the Democrats lining up to run against trump are endorsing new spending (Medicare for All, the Green New Deal, etc.), to the delight of their faithful, that would increase total spending to 13 trillion +.

 

[danielpalos]

Obama ran up more debt than any previous President COMBINED, but that was OK, right?

Well, that is not really true.

Going by first FY budget to the end of the last FY budget

Obama added 74% to the national debt
Bush II added 101% to the national debt (but that is ok with you because he was a Repub)
Reagan added 186% to the national debt (but that is ok with you because he was a Repub)
The all time winner of course is FDR who added 1,048% to the national debt.

What about Quantitative Easing? QEI, QEII and QE III? Think that was free stuff??

What about TARP?

What about the BILLIONS on phony bailouts like Solyndra? Remember them? Remember all the shovel ready jobs that didn't exist and never materialized?

You people are clueless.

And really stupid

The right wing only whines more when the Poor may benefit.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

ah, spin the stats to try to make a failed point. Wow!! great!! When we talk national debt, the only thing that matters is actual dollars added to it. Obama tops all previous presidents COMBINED.

And Bush II topped all previous presidents COMBINED. yet you worship him and bash Obama...why is that?

oh, and Obama did not add more than all the rest combined ,that is just a lie you party masters tell you that you are too stupid to know is false...kind of like the lie that revenue went up after the tax cut

how much debt did Bush 43 add? Obama added 10 trillion. What was the debt when bush took office and when he left? Did he add 10 trillion? Don't think so. I was not happy when Bush increased the debt and said so at the time. But comparing his actual dollar increase to Obama's shows who really did the damage.

Funny, earlier you claimed to be non partisan, but every thing you post is partisan.

Facts are not partisan...that is why you hate them.


On the first day of Bush II's first FY budget the national debt stood at $5,806,151,389,190
On the last day of Bush II's lasty FY budget the national debt stood at $11,909,829,003,511.

What that means is that Bush II added more to the debt than every POTUS before him COMBINED

Ok, if those numbers are correct, and I'm not going to check them, then Bush added 6 trillion and Obama added 10 trillion. Is 10 more or less than 6?

Obama start and finish numbers...11,920,519,164,319----19,844,760,368,365...only 7.9 trillion added...which is more than 6 but not more than 6 when you account for the rate of inflation.

Look, Obama sucked, 2nd worst ever. But by every matrix Bush II was far worse.


all my numbers come from the Govt....Debt to the Penny (Daily History Search Application)

Bush was worse but the country really became divided under Obama. Both are bad but likely good dudes to drink beers with, etc.