Demint: Raise the debt ceiling..

[NYcarbineer]

It's funny.

The great Tea Party insurgency. The rebels. The revolutionaries!!!

They're waking up from their election celebrations, finding themselves on the GOP bus,

cruising down Business-as-usual Boulevard.

 

[Revere]

Is voting to repeal Obamacare business as usual?

 

[Revere]

Is dragging Obama's illicit czars and vacation appointments in front of ethics committies business as usual?

 

[DiveCon]

It's funny.

The great Tea Party insurgency. The rebels. The revolutionaries!!!

They're waking up from their election celebrations, finding themselves on the GOP bus,

cruising down Business-as-usual Boulevard.

what the fuck are you even talking about?
do you even know?

 

[Sallow]

Bwuh?

DeMint also addressed what he think Republicans should do about raising the debt ceiling when Congress returns so the government can continue to print and spend money.

“I think Republicans will say no,” DeMint told CNN’s Chief National Correspondent John King. “Unless that raising of the debt ceiling is accompanied by some dramatic spending cuts, something that would direct us toward a balanced budget in the future, Republicans will not support an increase in the debt limit.”
DeMint on GOP future – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Raising the debt ceiling?

Already??

um, did you NOT read that in context?

Um..yeah..I did.

Demint says we have to raise the debt ceiling..after these guys have been hammering on about how much has been spent.

When the heck does this sort of ridiculous idiocy end?

Either you deal with reality or you don't.

 

[edthecynic]

They'll have to raise the ceiling to cover the $Trillion cost of the tax cut to the richest Americans.

Whose taxes are being cut?

The perpetual CON$ervative dumb act!

The people whom Bush is raising taxes on starting 2011, that's whose taxes are being cut.

 

[Revere]

Is killing cap and tax, card check, and amnesty business as usual?

 

[Revere]

If the taxes stay the same, how are they cut?

 

[Revere]

Bwuh?

Raising the debt ceiling?

Already??

um, did you NOT read that in context?

Um..yeah..I did.

Demint says we have to raise the debt ceiling..after these guys have been hammering on about how much has been spent.

When the heck does this sort of ridiculous idiocy end?

Either you deal with reality or you don't.

No, he said they would not raise it unless there was real spending cuts.

Pay attention.

 

[DiveCon]

Bwuh?

Raising the debt ceiling?

Already??

um, did you NOT read that in context?

Um..yeah..I did.

Demint says we have to raise the debt ceiling..after these guys have been hammering on about how much has been spent.

When the heck does this sort of ridiculous idiocy end?

Either you deal with reality or you don't.

well, it seems like YOU are the one not dealing with reality
the debt ceiling will need to be raised because of all the money the dems have already spent

 

[edthecynic]

If the taxes stay the same, how are they cut?

Still milking the dumb act!


The Bush tax law presently in effect RAISES taxes in 2011, so the legally established 2011 Bush tax rates will be CUT, as if you didn't know.

 

[edthecynic]

Demint had to check on Twitter before he could address the topic at hand.

um, you do understand that if the limit isnt raised, the government is out of money, right?

Not exactly. The government can still spend the revenue it takes in, it just won't be able to deficit spend without raising the debt limit.

 

[Revere]

The have not been raised. How can they be cut?

 

[Revere]

Obama is going to extend them. All of them. Deal with it. He'll make the extensions temporary for the upper brackets and kick the can past the next election.

 

[Sallow]

um, did you NOT read that in context?

Um..yeah..I did.

Demint says we have to raise the debt ceiling..after these guys have been hammering on about how much has been spent.

When the heck does this sort of ridiculous idiocy end?

Either you deal with reality or you don't.

well, it seems like YOU are the one not dealing with reality
the debt ceiling will need to be raised because of all the money the dems have already spent

That's just plain lunacy.

Here's the reality smack down.

Bush implemented a completely unpaid for and unjustified tax cut for people who are obscenely wealthy.

Bush started 2 full on wars. Both of which were unpaid for.

Bush put up several social programs..also unpaid for.

He then turned a blind eye to the finance industry..until of course they collapsed..not just a small collapse..a systemic collapse that would have taken the whole world with it. Why do we know this? John Boehner was CRYING in congress for republicans to pass TARP.

Then the TEA PARTY comes along and blames ALL of our FISCAL woes on President Obama. Says we can't spend anymore. Says we have to cut the debt.

NOT 24 HOURS AFTER THIS HISTORIC ELECTION DO THEY COME IN AND SAY WE HAVE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.

And you guys are doing verbal gymnastics..to defend this.

THAT TAKES THE FUCKING CAKE.

 

[Revere]

Uh, the deficit was headed toward zero until 2008.

Are the tax cuts "unpaid for" but the social spending "paid for?"

 

[DiveCon]

Um..yeah..I did.

Demint says we have to raise the debt ceiling..after these guys have been hammering on about how much has been spent.

When the heck does this sort of ridiculous idiocy end?

Either you deal with reality or you don't.

well, it seems like YOU are the one not dealing with reality
the debt ceiling will need to be raised because of all the money the dems have already spent

That's just plain lunacy.

Here's the reality smack down.

Bush implemented a completely unpaid for and unjustified tax cut for people who are obscenely wealthy.

Bush started 2 full on wars. Both of which were unpaid for.

Bush put up several social programs..also unpaid for.

He then turned a blind eye to the finance industry..until of course they collapsed..not just a small collapse..a systemic collapse that would have taken the whole world with it. Why do we know this? John Boehner was CRYING in congress for republicans to pass TARP.

Then the TEA PARTY comes along and blames ALL of our FISCAL woes on President Obama. Says we can't spend anymore. Says we have to cut the debt.

NOT 24 HOURS AFTER THIS HISTORIC ELECTION DO THEY COME IN AND SAY WE HAVE TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING.

And you guys are doing verbal gymnastics..to defend this.

THAT TAKES THE FUCKING CAKE.

no, THAT is fucking LUNACY

 

[Saikron]

I'm not quite following your counterargument DiveCon.

 

[Flopper]

Bwuh?



Raising the debt ceiling?

Already??

This would be a dream scenario for the Democrats. Not raising the debt ceiling would cause a financial crisis as bad as 2008. Remember the government is a third of the GNP.

You mean the impending collapse if TARP was not passed?

The same TARP that still has hundreds of billions unspent?

That crisis?

Tarp did not create a financial crisis, it just raised the deficit. So far the deficit has not created a financial crisis.

Not extending the debit limit would mean the US government would have to reduce spending by 1/3 immediately. That would mean a reduction in the GDP of nearly 10% in one year. The effect on the economy would be devastating to say the least.

 

[DiveCon]

I'm not quite following your counterargument DiveCon.

hes making a strawman