Democratic Debate Thread

[Anathema]

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

True. However Conservatives still have one advantage... Liberals live by the ballot, but Conservatives live by the BULLET.

 

[Norman]

The choice who to vote for will be difficult.


As for what happened, well...

Norman, if you didn't lie, you'd have nothing to post.

This is the actual color of your electoral map. You see all that purple, Norman, those are the people who are pretty much fed up with Donald Trump. These are decent, God-fearing people who think attacking women and children is wrong. Housing people in conditions which would see farmers arrested for abuse if they treated their animals like Trump is treating these families.

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

Having lived most of my adult life and have retired to the same kind of small town I grew up in, I can see clearly the rural/urban divide, and why the rurals have no hope of winning, nor should they. There's poor people where I live now. Not many. Most have alcohol and/or drug problems, and they're really lazy. As one of my friends said, pointing out one such couple, "They're playing the system". That's pretty much the ONLY kind of poverty we see out here.

In rural North America, if you have a kid who likely isn't going to amount to much, you get him a job with the Works Department for the county. They drive the snow plows, the big equipment, they make a nice life for themselves, and they don't end up on the streets. Lazy bums end up poor.

City poverty is much, much different. City poverty is working people struggling to make ends meet. It's not driven by laziness, because you can't be lazy in the city. You have to hustle to even be poor. When rural people think of poverty, and government programs, they think of the lazy bums sitting all drugged out on the park benches in the town square. I could send you pictures. What they don't realize is that these people are taking a free ride on the same programs that are helping people who are working full time, but at low wage jobs that require long, long hours in order to support their families. My small town 2-bedroom apartment with bonus storage room and ensuite laundry, would cost me triple the rent in the city. And more money every time you walk out the door because you need transit to go anywhere.

So rural people see rural poor people and think that urban poverty is just like that. All these lazy people "working the system". The fastest way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to plant them in the middle of the city for 6 months, preferably in winter, and let them see the difference.

Keep believing the msm lies. The only people who you're referring to is radical libs. They were already there in 2016.

The Canadian woman is totally up to speed on US politics.

Maybe she should lecture people in her own country. Their population is being replaced by Islamists, but somehow because of feminism it's all ok.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The choice who to vote for will be difficult.


As for what happened, well...

Norman, if you didn't lie, you'd have nothing to post.

This is the actual color of your electoral map. You see all that purple, Norman, those are the people who are pretty much fed up with Donald Trump. These are decent, God-fearing people who think attacking women and children is wrong. Housing people in conditions which would see farmers arrested for abuse if they treated their animals like Trump is treating these families.

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

Having lived most of my adult life and have retired to the same kind of small town I grew up in, I can see clearly the rural/urban divide, and why the rurals have no hope of winning, nor should they. There's poor people where I live now. Not many. Most have alcohol and/or drug problems, and they're really lazy. As one of my friends said, pointing out one such couple, "They're playing the system". That's pretty much the ONLY kind of poverty we see out here.

In rural North America, if you have a kid who likely isn't going to amount to much, you get him a job with the Works Department for the county. They drive the snow plows, the big equipment, they make a nice life for themselves, and they don't end up on the streets. Lazy bums end up poor.

City poverty is much, much different. City poverty is working people struggling to make ends meet. It's not driven by laziness, because you can't be lazy in the city. You have to hustle to even be poor. When rural people think of poverty, and government programs, they think of the lazy bums sitting all drugged out on the park benches in the town square. I could send you pictures. What they don't realize is that these people are taking a free ride on the same programs that are helping people who are working full time, but at low wage jobs that require long, long hours in order to support their families. My small town 2-bedroom apartment with bonus storage room and ensuite laundry, would cost me triple the rent in the city. And more money every time you walk out the door because you need transit to go anywhere.

So rural people see rural poor people and think that urban poverty is just like that. All these lazy people "working the system". The fastest way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to plant them in the middle of the city for 6 months, preferably in winter, and let them see the difference.

Keep believing the msm lies. The only people who you're referring to is radical libs. They were already there in 2016.

The Canadian woman is totally up to speed on US politics.

Maybe she should lecture people in her own country. Their population is being replaced by Islamists, but somehow because of feminism it's all ok.

She has not a clue. Its embarrassing.

 

[Norman]

The choice who to vote for will be difficult.


As for what happened, well...

Norman, if you didn't lie, you'd have nothing to post.

This is the actual color of your electoral map. You see all that purple, Norman, those are the people who are pretty much fed up with Donald Trump. These are decent, God-fearing people who think attacking women and children is wrong. Housing people in conditions which would see farmers arrested for abuse if they treated their animals like Trump is treating these families.

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

Having lived most of my adult life and have retired to the same kind of small town I grew up in, I can see clearly the rural/urban divide, and why the rurals have no hope of winning, nor should they. There's poor people where I live now. Not many. Most have alcohol and/or drug problems, and they're really lazy. As one of my friends said, pointing out one such couple, "They're playing the system". That's pretty much the ONLY kind of poverty we see out here.

In rural North America, if you have a kid who likely isn't going to amount to much, you get him a job with the Works Department for the county. They drive the snow plows, the big equipment, they make a nice life for themselves, and they don't end up on the streets. Lazy bums end up poor.

City poverty is much, much different. City poverty is working people struggling to make ends meet. It's not driven by laziness, because you can't be lazy in the city. You have to hustle to even be poor. When rural people think of poverty, and government programs, they think of the lazy bums sitting all drugged out on the park benches in the town square. I could send you pictures. What they don't realize is that these people are taking a free ride on the same programs that are helping people who are working full time, but at low wage jobs that require long, long hours in order to support their families. My small town 2-bedroom apartment with bonus storage room and ensuite laundry, would cost me triple the rent in the city. And more money every time you walk out the door because you need transit to go anywhere.

So rural people see rural poor people and think that urban poverty is just like that. All these lazy people "working the system". The fastest way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to plant them in the middle of the city for 6 months, preferably in winter, and let them see the difference.

Actually the conservatives will just build a wall and the democrats go back to their shitholes that they have created. And you stay in Canada, which will also be a shithole shortly, because they stupidly gave idiots like you the right to vote.

 

[BlindBoo]

Ms. Garrison is thrilled.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

 

[Theowl32]

I am telling you. Communism is coming and we are allowing it. We deserve what we will be getting.

It's gonna get bad folks and history tells us what is on the horizon.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

top 10%????

Do you know who that includes?

This is the problem with leftists. You're clueless.

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[citygator]

You guys are going to be sad when you learn not much has changed since the 2018 midterms. How’s that turn out?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Here you go, Penelope:

What Does It Take to Be in the Top 1%, 5%, 10%?

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.



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[citygator]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Here you go, Penelope:

View attachment 267323

What Does It Take to Be in the Top 1%, 5%, 10%?

Most people underestimate how top heavy Republican policies have made America. 1% own it all. Not 10% as the poster thought.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Here you go, Penelope:

View attachment 267323

What Does It Take to Be in the Top 1%, 5%, 10%?

Most people underestimate how top heavy Republican policies have made America. 1% own it all. Not 10% as the poster thought.

Policies like what?

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[BlindBoo]

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.

The tax rate is progressive.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Here you go, Penelope:

View attachment 267323

What Does It Take to Be in the Top 1%, 5%, 10%?

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.



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Dems are fucken stupid!!
If they tried that shit how many people would just quit their jobs and take one for less money and less work?
I know I damn sure would,out of spite if nothing else.

 

[Rustic]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Lol
Taking someone else’s money, and redistributing it has never worked in the history of civilization.
And sick pieces of shit like you have no credibility on the issue to begin with...

ARs and the like are sporting rifles nothing more nothing less... You fucking retard

 

[Rustic]

The choice who to vote for will be difficult.


As for what happened, well...

Norman, if you didn't lie, you'd have nothing to post.

This is the actual color of your electoral map. You see all that purple, Norman, those are the people who are pretty much fed up with Donald Trump. These are decent, God-fearing people who think attacking women and children is wrong. Housing people in conditions which would see farmers arrested for abuse if they treated their animals like Trump is treating these families.

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

Having lived most of my adult life and have retired to the same kind of small town I grew up in, I can see clearly the rural/urban divide, and why the rurals have no hope of winning, nor should they. There's poor people where I live now. Not many. Most have alcohol and/or drug problems, and they're really lazy. As one of my friends said, pointing out one such couple, "They're playing the system". That's pretty much the ONLY kind of poverty we see out here.

In rural North America, if you have a kid who likely isn't going to amount to much, you get him a job with the Works Department for the county. They drive the snow plows, the big equipment, they make a nice life for themselves, and they don't end up on the streets. Lazy bums end up poor.

City poverty is much, much different. City poverty is working people struggling to make ends meet. It's not driven by laziness, because you can't be lazy in the city. You have to hustle to even be poor. When rural people think of poverty, and government programs, they think of the lazy bums sitting all drugged out on the park benches in the town square. I could send you pictures. What they don't realize is that these people are taking a free ride on the same programs that are helping people who are working full time, but at low wage jobs that require long, long hours in order to support their families. My small town 2-bedroom apartment with bonus storage room and ensuite laundry, would cost me triple the rent in the city. And more money every time you walk out the door because you need transit to go anywhere.

So rural people see rural poor people and think that urban poverty is just like that. All these lazy people "working the system". The fastest way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to plant them in the middle of the city for 6 months, preferably in winter, and let them see the difference.

Lol
As a Canadian you don’t know jack shit about anything other than socialism… So shut the fuck up

 

[USAF 2023]

Was that a joke?

I just listened to the Democrat presidential debate for the first time.

Wtf was that.

If a playwright wrote that as comedy twenty years ago, it wouldn't have even been considered funny since no one ever thought that that could actually happen in real life.

Seriously what kind of a fucking joke was that.

I'm not saying this because I'm conservative.

I'm saying this as a someone who just heard candidates discussing abortion rights for transgender "men."

I just heard candidates give more than 2/3 of the airtime in spanish.

I just heard 70% tax rates.

I just heard take the guns.

Why do you want our guns?

Why do you want our money?

Why are you speaking in spanish?

Why on earth are you talking about transgender abortion rights?

What kind of a fucking joke was that.

I still believe in a single payer healthcare system...but holy shit, there's nothing else I agree with this new "Democrat?" party on. Is it even the Democrat party? Wtf is this shit.

After what I saw, I don't even think the new Democrat party could evne implement a single payer helathcare system anyway.

I think the left leaning Republicans are going to become the new "rational" left of America. Probably gonna turn into a three party system.

Republicans, Centrists (left republicans) and Socialist (communists?)

Mark my words.

I cannot comprehend what i just watched.

wtf was that shit.

You just watched a freak show is what you did.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

It’s a extremely stupid comment. Regardless of how wealthy you are why should MOST of that be confiscated? That doesn’t even include State or Local taxes
Europe has Socialism and even their taxes aren’t that high
SHERI is probably for free Medical care for illegals also

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.

The tax rate is progressive.

She said 70% tax rate on the top 10%, which is $118,000 per year.

Even if she cut it to the top 5%, that leaves those people with $89,000. Nobody will ever be a doctor or do anything that takes lots of school and money.

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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The choice who to vote for will be difficult.


As for what happened, well...

Norman, if you didn't lie, you'd have nothing to post.

This is the actual color of your electoral map. You see all that purple, Norman, those are the people who are pretty much fed up with Donald Trump. These are decent, God-fearing people who think attacking women and children is wrong. Housing people in conditions which would see farmers arrested for abuse if they treated their animals like Trump is treating these families.

Conservatives are losing this battle. As people move from blue states to red states, and they see the poverty, deprivation and lack of opportunities for the poor in those states, and as the states become increasingly urbanized, the rural conservative voter will become overwhelmed by the continued urbanization of America.

Having lived most of my adult life and have retired to the same kind of small town I grew up in, I can see clearly the rural/urban divide, and why the rurals have no hope of winning, nor should they. There's poor people where I live now. Not many. Most have alcohol and/or drug problems, and they're really lazy. As one of my friends said, pointing out one such couple, "They're playing the system". That's pretty much the ONLY kind of poverty we see out here.

In rural North America, if you have a kid who likely isn't going to amount to much, you get him a job with the Works Department for the county. They drive the snow plows, the big equipment, they make a nice life for themselves, and they don't end up on the streets. Lazy bums end up poor.

City poverty is much, much different. City poverty is working people struggling to make ends meet. It's not driven by laziness, because you can't be lazy in the city. You have to hustle to even be poor. When rural people think of poverty, and government programs, they think of the lazy bums sitting all drugged out on the park benches in the town square. I could send you pictures. What they don't realize is that these people are taking a free ride on the same programs that are helping people who are working full time, but at low wage jobs that require long, long hours in order to support their families. My small town 2-bedroom apartment with bonus storage room and ensuite laundry, would cost me triple the rent in the city. And more money every time you walk out the door because you need transit to go anywhere.

So rural people see rural poor people and think that urban poverty is just like that. All these lazy people "working the system". The fastest way to turn a conservative into a liberal is to plant them in the middle of the city for 6 months, preferably in winter, and let them see the difference.

Wrong.

Here is what it looks like:

Most of these people have no real choice. Both sides are trying to eat away at some of their liberty.

The communists are taking advantage of the situation.

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[BlindBoo]

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.

The tax rate is progressive.

She said 70% tax rate on the top 10%, which is $118,000 per year.

Even if she cut it to the top 5%, that leaves those people with $89,000. Nobody will ever be a doctor or do anything that takes lots of school and money.

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If that were true then, if they made 118,001 dollars, they would pay the 70% on the 1 dollar and the lower tax rate on the 118,000.

I oppose it because we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.