Democratic Debate Thread

[Penelope]

Was that a joke?

I just listened to the Democrat presidential debate for the first time.

Wtf was that.

If a playwright wrote that as comedy twenty years ago, it wouldn't have even been considered funny since no one ever thought that that could actually happen in real life.

Seriously what kind of a fucking joke was that.

I'm not saying this because I'm conservative.

I'm saying this as a someone who just heard candidates discussing abortion rights for transgender "men."

I just heard candidates give more than 2/3 of the airtime in spanish.

I just heard 70% tax rates.

I just heard take the guns.

Why do you want our guns?

Why do you want our money?

Why are you speaking in spanish?

Why on earth are you talking about transgender abortion rights?

What kind of a fucking joke was that.

I still believe in a single payer healthcare system...but holy shit, there's nothing else I agree with this new "Democrat?" party on. Is it even the Democrat party? Wtf is this shit.

After what I saw, I don't even think the new Democrat party could evne implement a single payer helathcare system anyway.

I think the left leaning Republicans are going to become the new "rational" left of America. Probably gonna turn into a three party system.

Republicans, Centrists (left republicans) and Socialist (communists?)

Mark my words.

I cannot comprehend what i just watched.

wtf was that shit.

You just watched a freak show is what you did.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

It’s a extremely stupid comment. Regardless of how wealthy you are why should MOST of that be confiscated? That doesn’t even include State or Local taxes
Europe has Socialism and even their taxes aren’t that high
SHERI is probably for free Medical care for illegals also

Since the extreme wealthy have all kinds of loopholes and before Reagan the top tax was 70% and it didn't phase them at all, yes its a good thing. It is NOT socialism, like Israel has.

 

[Penelope]

What does that mean? Here’s the key distinction: Marginal tax rates are only applied to part of someone’s income, not to all of their earnings. In other words, someone making $10 million would not lose 70% of that money to taxes under Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. A 70% marginal tax rate on earnings above $10 million would only apply to the portion of income above $10 million.
As Ray Dalio weighs in on Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% tax proposal, here’s what some critics got wrong about it

 

[Desperado]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Then you were not watching the same debate....

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.

The tax rate is progressive.

She said 70% tax rate on the top 10%, which is $118,000 per year.

Even if she cut it to the top 5%, that leaves those people with $89,000. Nobody will ever be a doctor or do anything that takes lots of school and money.

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If that were true then, if they made 118,001 dollars, they would pay the 70% on the 1 dollar and the lower tax rate on the 118,000.

I oppose it because we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

That is NOT what she said. Nice spin job.

And, why would anyone try to earn more than 118,000 when it will all go bu-bye? Why put in any extra effort?

Doctors earning $300,000 per year, after 20+ years of formal education, 2 years of indentured servitude, and $$$$ debt could only take home $131,000 ($54,000 of $184,000 above 118,000 and 76,000 of $118,000)?


Not really selling this point well, are we?

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[Desperado]

What does that mean? Here’s the key distinction: Marginal tax rates are only applied to part of someone’s income, not to all of their earnings. In other words, someone making $10 million would not lose 70% of that money to taxes under Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. A 70% marginal tax rate on earnings above $10 million would only apply to the portion of income above $10 million.
As Ray Dalio weighs in on Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% tax proposal, here’s what some critics got wrong about it

Why do you believe the government is entitle to that?

 

[Thinker101]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Gee, wrong again...you may want to consider paying attention.
Democrat Candidate Julian Castro Says Biological Men Must Be Granted Abortion Rights (VIDEO)

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

What does that mean? Here’s the key distinction: Marginal tax rates are only applied to part of someone’s income, not to all of their earnings. In other words, someone making $10 million would not lose 70% of that money to taxes under Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. A 70% marginal tax rate on earnings above $10 million would only apply to the portion of income above $10 million.
As Ray Dalio weighs in on Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% tax proposal, here’s what some critics got wrong about it

So where's the incentive to make more money if the gov is going to take the lion's share of it?
Sounds like a great way to stifle growth......

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

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[Thinker101]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

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Well, if Medicare-for-all is implemented that $300,000 will become $150,000 and they'll take home somewhere near $65,000. So no one will EVER be a doctor. EVER.

 

[Penelope]

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

Then you were not watching the same debate....

Can you tell me who said that abortion should be legal for men and who said
and take all guns away, and with links. Thank you.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

A small business owner (like me) who earns $350,000 (for example), but has a shit-ton of expenses, gets an after Fed taxes gross of $146,300, but has $105,000 in expenses, so only takes home $41,000? Maybe $65,000 with some tax-deductible expenses? BEFORE State and Local taxes? With all that risk and responsibility?

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!

I will go to fucking war before I accept that bullshit.

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[Penelope]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

.

Well, if Medicare-for-all is implemented that $300,000 will become $150,000 and they'll take home somewhere near $65,000. So no one will EVER be a doctor. EVER.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

We will if the Democrats get in. Or perhaps you can move to China or India or hey NK.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

.

Well, if Medicare-for-all is implemented that $300,000 will become $150,000 and they'll take home somewhere near $65,000. So no one will EVER be a doctor. EVER.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

We will if the Democrats get in. Or perhaps you can move to China or India or hey NK.

Or, perhaps we can go to war.



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[Penelope]

A small business owner (like me) who earns $350,000 (for example), but has a shit-ton of expenses, gets an after Fed taxes gross of $146,300, but has $105,000 in expenses, so only takes home $41,000? Maybe $65,000 with some tax-deductible expenses? BEFORE State and Local taxes? With all that risk and responsibility?

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!

I will go to fucking war before I accept that bullshit.

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You have no state income tax in TX. And you also do not need to concern yourself with paying 70%.

 

[BlindBoo]

Top 10%ers should only be allowed to take home $35,000.

The tax rate is progressive.

She said 70% tax rate on the top 10%, which is $118,000 per year.

Even if she cut it to the top 5%, that leaves those people with $89,000. Nobody will ever be a doctor or do anything that takes lots of school and money.

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If that were true then, if they made 118,001 dollars, they would pay the 70% on the 1 dollar and the lower tax rate on the 118,000.

I oppose it because we don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem.

That is NOT what she said. Nice spin job.

And, why would anyone try to earn more than 118,000 when it will all go bu-bye? Why put in any extra effort?

Doctors earning $300,000 per year, after 20+ years of formal education, 2 years of indentured servitude, and $$$$ debt could only take home $131,000 ($54,000 of $184,000 above 118,000 and 76,000 of $118,000)?


Not really selling this point well, are we?

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Pretending to be stupid?

Ocasio-Cortez wants a progressive system where her 70 percent rate would apply only to “your 10 millionth dollar.” So, no, Rep. Scalise, she is not proposing to take 70 percent of everyone’s income. In fact, she wouldn’t even take 70 percent of total income from those making more than $10 million. Remember, they’d be paying lower tax rates on their first $10 million and, as far as we know, they’d still benefit from deductions, exclusions and credits.

Now let’s look at some history. The US had a top rate that exceeded 90 percent through the 1950s and early 60s and a 70 percent top tax rate from 1971 through 1980. Then President Reagan got Congress to cut it to 50 percent starting in 1982.

About Representative Ocasio-Cortez's 70% Tax Rates

 

[Penelope]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

.

Well, if Medicare-for-all is implemented that $300,000 will become $150,000 and they'll take home somewhere near $65,000. So no one will EVER be a doctor. EVER.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

We will if the Democrats get in. Or perhaps you can move to China or India or hey NK.

Or, perhaps we can go to war.



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Go to war against whom?

 

[USAF 2023]

What does that mean? Here’s the key distinction: Marginal tax rates are only applied to part of someone’s income, not to all of their earnings. In other words, someone making $10 million would not lose 70% of that money to taxes under Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. A 70% marginal tax rate on earnings above $10 million would only apply to the portion of income above $10 million.
As Ray Dalio weighs in on Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% tax proposal, here’s what some critics got wrong about it

Get rid of the Tax loops! That simple. The Socialist Bernie S

What does that mean? Here’s the key distinction: Marginal tax rates are only applied to part of someone’s income, not to all of their earnings. In other words, someone making $10 million would not lose 70% of that money to taxes under Ocasio-Cortez’s proposal. A 70% marginal tax rate on earnings above $10 million would only apply to the portion of income above $10 million.
As Ray Dalio weighs in on Ocasio-Cortez’s 70% tax proposal, here’s what some critics got wrong about it

Sorry, but that is NOT what the Socialist Bernie Sanders proposed. He’s also for free Health care for Illegal Immigrants

 

[22lcidw]

A small business owner (like me) who earns $350,000 (for example), but has a shit-ton of expenses, gets an after Fed taxes gross of $146,300, but has $105,000 in expenses, so only takes home $41,000? Maybe $65,000 with some tax-deductible expenses? BEFORE State and Local taxes? With all that risk and responsibility?

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!

I will go to fucking war before I accept that bullshit.

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You have no state income tax in TX. And you also do not need to concern yourself with paying 70%.

You will institute taxes wherever you go. Please stop it. Once Florida starts, the people who live on income with no increases will become impoverished. There are reasons people left high tax states. Old people have already been lied to by more conservative areas down here. Ask the people in the villages. The fiefdom of corruption in that county and police/corrections and judicial has destroyed people with bad political decisions fueling the ineptitude. Gerber baby food for all. Enroute to destiny...

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

To recap, a doctor who earns $300,000 per year after 20+ years of education and lots of debt can only hope to take home $131,000 based on this 70% marginal tax rate.

Nobody will EVER be a doctor. EVER!!!

.

Well, if Medicare-for-all is implemented that $300,000 will become $150,000 and they'll take home somewhere near $65,000. So no one will EVER be a doctor. EVER.

I have no issue with 70% tax rate for the top 5-10%.

also your post has no link. I doubt anyone said abortion for men, or take guns away, but no one in the US should have an assault weapon, if you want to fire one join the military.

And yeah you are saying that because you are a gop-her.

You apparently dont know what the top 5 and 10 percent make.
You wont be taking 70% of my money.

We will if the Democrats get in. Or perhaps you can move to China or India or hey NK.

Not going to happen.
There'd be an uprising the likes of which you've never seen.
People would quit high paying jobs and work the bare minimum to avoid those taxes so then where's the money going to come from?
Just like NY and California taxing the shit out of people to the point they pack up and leave.

 

[Penelope]

You guys are going to be sad when you learn not much has changed since the 2018 midterms. How’s that turn out?

Only because Tramp is an obstructionist.

A small business owner (like me) who earns $350,000 (for example), but has a shit-ton of expenses, gets an after Fed taxes gross of $146,300, but has $105,000 in expenses, so only takes home $41,000? Maybe $65,000 with some tax-deductible expenses? BEFORE State and Local taxes? With all that risk and responsibility?

FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!

I will go to fucking war before I accept that bullshit.

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You have no state income tax in TX. And you also do not need to concern yourself with paying 70%.

You will institute taxes wherever you go. Please stop it. Once Florida starts, the people who live on income with no increases will become impoverished. There are reasons people left high tax states. Old people have already been lied to by more conservative areas down here. Ask the people in the villages. The fiefdom of corruption in that county and police/corrections and judicial has destroyed people with bad political decisions fueling the ineptitude. Gerber baby food for all. Enroute to destiny...

I live in MI. It has been controlled by Republicans in the Senate since 1986, and it is one of the most high taxed state in the US, and most cities have a local income tax.