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[daveman]

Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

“Removing this unbalanced treatment of our military retirees ought to be one of the key actions we should take before this legislation moves forward. In fact, greater savings than this can be achieved by passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens,” Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions said Monday, announcing his co-sponsorship of Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker’s amendment to restore the military retirement benefits Monday.

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

Tuesday evening, Sessions attempted to force Majority Leader Harry Reid allow amendments the budget agreement.

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Sessions’ motion failed on a 46 to 54 party-line vote, with North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan crossing the aisle as the lone Democrat to vote with the Republicans.

“Reid’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.​

 

[daveman]

Senate Democrats would rather give money illegally to illegal immigrants than prevent a cut in veterans' pensions.

Someone explain how this is good for America. Someone explain how this is not Senate Democrats spitting in the face of veterans.

 

[depotoo]

And yet they will blame the gop. Just watch and see. Why should illegal aliens be getting anything from the irs?

 

[MACAULAY]

The Democrats understand their voter consituency--thats the only way to explain it.

Veterans who fought for our country are primarily Republicans.

Illegals and their kin who vote and like welfare are primarily Democrats.

And, until the Republicans can figure out a way to stop the Democrats from borrowing money to buy votes, they are going to borrow money to buy votes.

 

[Peach]

Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

“Removing this unbalanced treatment of our military retirees ought to be one of the key actions we should take before this legislation moves forward. In fact, greater savings than this can be achieved by passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens,” Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions said Monday, announcing his co-sponsorship of Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker’s amendment to restore the military retirement benefits Monday.

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

Tuesday evening, Sessions attempted to force Majority Leader Harry Reid allow amendments the budget agreement.

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Sessions’ motion failed on a 46 to 54 party-line vote, with North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan crossing the aisle as the lone Democrat to vote with the Republicans.

“Reid’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.​

Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

 

[Peach]

Ryan is taking "credit"; the bill explained:

Ryan-Murray Deal Hits Younger, Future Retirees | Military.com

 

[Samson]

Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

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Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

Yeah what's up with that?

BTW: In October 2002, Murray was one of only 21 Democrats in the Senate to vote against the War Authoritization for invading Iraq.

 

[Samson]

Ryan is taking "credit"; the bill explained:

Ryan-Murray Deal Hits Younger, Future Retirees | Military.com

Sounds good:

For him, Ryan said, those are no tax increases and replacing arbitrary cuts of sequestration with "smart, targeted reforms."

.....we start to make real reforms in these autopilot programs that are the drivers of our debt in the first place," Ryan said. One "autopilot" program, in his view, appears to be full COLAs for working-age military retirees.

"For younger military retirees, we trim their cost-of-living adjustment just a bit," explains a fact sheet released by Ryan's committee. "It's a modest reform for working-age military retirees."​

 

[daveman]

Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

“Removing this unbalanced treatment of our military retirees ought to be one of the key actions we should take before this legislation moves forward. In fact, greater savings than this can be achieved by passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens,” Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions said Monday, announcing his co-sponsorship of Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker’s amendment to restore the military retirement benefits Monday.

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

Tuesday evening, Sessions attempted to force Majority Leader Harry Reid allow amendments the budget agreement.

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Sessions’ motion failed on a 46 to 54 party-line vote, with North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan crossing the aisle as the lone Democrat to vote with the Republicans.

“Reid’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.​

Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

All Democrats but one voted to illegally give money to criminals instead of preventing cuts to veteran pensions.

Ryan is immaterial. The Daily Caller is immaterial

Defend this action by Democrats, without whom it would have failed.

 

[House]

I gives a damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.

It's ridiculous how people's opinions on everything is based on party rather than merit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of whether it's red or blue.

 

[Samson]

Senate Dems block amendment to restore veteran benefits by closing illegal immigrant welfare loophole

Senate Dems: illegal immigrant welfare over veteran benefits | The Daily Caller

Senate Republicans were unable to stop military pension cuts when Senate Democrats blocked a vote on an amendment to prevent the cuts by closing a welfare loophole for illegal immigrants Tuesday evening.

The two-year budget deal brokered by Senate Budget Committee Chairwoman Patty Murray and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, would cut military pensions by $6 billion over ten years, leaving some Senate Republicans scrambling to stop the cuts.

“Removing this unbalanced treatment of our military retirees ought to be one of the key actions we should take before this legislation moves forward. In fact, greater savings than this can be achieved by passing a legislative fix recommended by the Inspector General of the U.S. Treasury that would stop the IRS from improperly providing tax credits to illegal aliens,” Alabama Republican Jeff Sessions said Monday, announcing his co-sponsorship of Mississippi Republican Sen. Roger Wicker’s amendment to restore the military retirement benefits Monday.

Additionally, the Alabama Republican offered his own amendment to restore the cuts by targeting a child tax credit loophole that illegal immigrants have used to unlawfully obtain welfare benefits.

In 2011, the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that “individuals who are not authorized to work in the United States” and therefore did not have a valid Social Security number were still able to obtain billions in Additional Child Tax Credits by filing returns with an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number.

Specifically the Internal Revenue Service watchdog found that unauthorized individuals received $4.2 billion refundable credits in Processing Year 2010.

Tuesday evening, Sessions attempted to force Majority Leader Harry Reid allow amendments the budget agreement.

Sessions hoped to attach his amendment to the deal — which would have closed the loophole by requiring a Social Security number to claim the refundable portion of the child tax credit and restore military retirement benefits.

Sessions’ motion failed on a 46 to 54 party-line vote, with North Carolina Sen. Kay Hagan crossing the aisle as the lone Democrat to vote with the Republicans.

“Reid’s majority just voted to keep pension cut for vets instead of cutting welfare payments to illegal aliens,” a Sessions aide emailed.​

Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

All Democrats but one voted to illegally give money to criminals instead of preventing cuts to veteran pensions.

Ryan is immaterial. The Daily Caller is immaterial

Defend this action by Democrats, without whom it would have failed.

Should I quote Ryan again?

 

[Samson]

I gives a damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.

It's ridiculous how people's opinions on everything is based on party rather than merit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of whether it's red or blue.

Is this a general opinion, or is it somehow relative to the OP?

 

[kiwiman127]

I'm not exactly a liberal or progressive, but I like know the entire story. So instead of turning to the Daily Caller or Breitbart or the Huffpost or the blogs that are all running the same theory depending on their leanings, I looked for a source a bit more non-partisan.
According to The Hill; "Several lawmakers have put forward pay-fors. Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) has suggested reversing the pension cuts by preventing illegal immigrants from claiming a child tax credit, while some Democrats have targeted offshore tax loopholes, neither of which are likely to be agreed to by the other side."
Read more: Senate starts consideration of veterans? pension cuts | TheHill
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And there we have it.
It's really too bad the veterans have again become a political football by what appears to me, both sides of the aisle. Each side has their off-setting solution and as stated in The Hill article, both sides know what they want to cut to offset the cost of reinstating the vets pension will not be accepted by the other side. What the fuck? Why do they pull this shit?
This is why I find both parties absolutely disgusting! They'd rather play politics with people's lives (in this case vets). There are way too many times both put party over country.
I would hope people don't get suckered into this bullshit.

 

[House]

I gives a damn who dreamt up such blarney, it's plain ol' nonsense.

It's ridiculous how people's opinions on everything is based on party rather than merit. Stupid is stupid, regardless of whether it's red or blue.

Is this a general opinion, or is it somehow relative to the OP?

I see your reading comprehension hasn't improved during my extended absence. Try reading the first line of my post again, and think waaaaaay back to the original post and the subject of the title.

Meanwhile, back to the IL with you. G'day sir!

 

[daveman]

Paul Ryan isn't a Democrat, and Daily Caller is as unbiased as Daily Kos.

All Democrats but one voted to illegally give money to criminals instead of preventing cuts to veteran pensions.

Ryan is immaterial. The Daily Caller is immaterial

Defend this action by Democrats, without whom it would have failed.

Should I quote Ryan again?

What part of "All Democrats but one voted to illegally give money to criminals instead of preventing cuts to veteran pensions" is failing to register?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

I'm with the OP and allow me to say that NO CONSERVATIVE cares for Paul Ryan.. he burnt his bridge with us long ago. Staying on topic with the FACTS, I too would like to know how anyone can square this??

 

[KNB]

Why does Paul Ryan want to cut veteran's benefits in the first place?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Why does Paul Ryan want to cut veteran's benefits in the first place?

Why are you focused on ONE republican when every democrat voted to cut those benefits?

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Is there ever a time that any of you leftists will call out your own on something as wrong as this??? SPEAK UP.

 

[House]

Let's just agree that it's bipartisan idiocy and get back to the topic, shall we?

Everybody wants more cooperation in government... well, there you have it ladies & gentlemen!