Democrats propose "transaction tax" on financial transactions. (Poll)

[kyzr]

They make too much.

This is a ridiculous statement to make in a truly free-market economy. Does Patrick Mahomes "make too much?"

I don't recall saying that HFTs "make" anything. All they do is steal from investors in micro-seconds.

 

[pknopp]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

House sets the budget ..end of story but it's easier to play stupid word games.

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trump. They added debt. It still has to pass the Senate and the President still has to sign off on it. Trump signed off on $8 trillion in debt in 4 years.

Who have you voted for?

Last time Jorgenson. Before that Stein. Before that Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

You are against spending and you voted for Stein? Lol, I think you just lost any credibility.

At least we know he isn't a Dimwinger.............he is a full-blown Socialist.

I'm the one that supports the government giving billions of taxpayers money to corporations? No, that's you.

Link to me supporting that?

You supported someone who wants to spend $120 TRILLION on environmental bullshit with no plan to pay for it.

Tomorrow it will be a gazillion.

 

[Mac-7]

In other words, it's pointless.

I dont know

its a huge program with plusses and minuses

 

[pknopp]

I absolutely support this and I'm open to where we spend it.

Why am I not surprised that you support pure idiocy?

Paying for things is idiocy? Quite the opposite.

Again, it is NOT the paying-for thing but the things we are paying for.

Paying for things is great when there is a legitimate need for a thing.

So far, I've not seen much that would be considered "legitimate" in the Federal Budget.

I said I supported this tax and if it's used to address the debt, great. I'll vote for that.

Paying for our debt is a valid expense.

Paying for our debt is a valid expense, but not a legitimate use of additional taxation.

I oppose this tax because even if they proposed the taxes from this were to be put in a lock box and used ONLY for the debt, they would be lying.

Probably so BUT we were asked what we would support.

 

[Lesh]

All these taxes start to add up

Not on ordinary Americans.

On the wealthy some yea...nut they ain't exactly hurting. You prefer debt?

 

[Mac-7]

We have the fattest country on the planet I don't think anyone is food insecure

Did I say we were?

but food security is still the primary purpose for the Dept of Ag

No it's not.

It's to give subsidies to agribusiness to grow cheap crops for other corporations

The subsidies to mega corporations appear to be rather small overall

Food stamps seems to be the biggest expenditure

 

[Flash]

I thought that Joe Dufus piece of shit said he wouldn't raise taxes on anybody making less than $450K a year.

So if I make a transfer of investments within my 401K I will have to pay the fucking government so that they will have more money to give away to the Negroes and Illegals?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

All these taxes start to add up

Not on ordinary Americans.

On the wealthy some yea...nut they ain't exactly hurting. You prefer debt?

What are you blabbering about now? I said reduce spending but that makes you loons wet yourselves

Now cease annoying me with your nonsense

 

[Nostra]

I absolutely support this and I'm open to where we spend it.

Why am I not surprised that you support pure idiocy?

Paying for things is idiocy? Quite the opposite.

What was Stein's plan to pay for the "New Green Deal's" $120 TRILLION price tag?

I can't say I've seen her speak on that. I would hope it would be with the money we spent on the wasteful wars.

So you voted for someone despite being ignorant of the biggest part of her platform.

What an idiot.

 

[Mac-7]

I've been clear that the whole "Russia" thing was a joke.

Good for you

but most of your fellow libs are convinced to that day that putin stole the election from Hillary

 

[Lesh]

All these taxes start to add up

Not on ordinary Americans.

On the wealthy some yea...nut they ain't exactly hurting. You prefer debt?

What are you blabbering about now? I said reduce spending but that makes you loons wet yourselves

Now cease annoying me with your nonsense

Yea...Republicans are always talking about reducing spending...and then they do the exact opposite.

And we certainly can't afford to do that now.

STFU bitch

 

[Lesh]

I've been clear that the whole "Russia" thing was a joke.

Good for you

but most of your fellow libs are convinced to that day that putin stole the election from Hillary

Not alone. Comey certainly put the nail in the coffin

 

[Nostra]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

House sets the budget ..end of story but it's easier to play stupid word games.

Republicans had the House and Senate under Trump. They added debt. It still has to pass the Senate and the President still has to sign off on it. Trump signed off on $8 trillion in debt in 4 years.

Who have you voted for?

Last time Jorgenson. Before that Stein. Before that Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

You are against spending and you voted for Stein? Lol, I think you just lost any credibility.

At least we know he isn't a Dimwinger.............he is a full-blown Socialist.

I'm the one that supports the government giving billions of taxpayers money to corporations? No, that's you.

Link to me supporting that?

You supported someone who wants to spend $120 TRILLION on environmental bullshit with no plan to pay for it.

Tomorrow it will be a gazillion.

That's usually how dumbfuck Dimwinger ideas go.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

All these taxes start to add up

Not on ordinary Americans.

On the wealthy some yea...nut they ain't exactly hurting. You prefer debt?

What are you blabbering about now? I said reduce spending but that makes you loons wet yourselves

Now cease annoying me with your nonsense

Yea...Republicans are always talking about reducing spending...and then they do the exact opposite.

And we certainly can't afford to do that now.

STFU bitch

Don't blame me you stuck your beak into something when you were wrong, Lush

Now run along and annoy someone else

 

[Blues Man]

I support the proposed transaction tax. It will hit the high-speed traders more than me or other "buy and hold" investors.

How much money do these high-speed traders currently make every year?

They make too much. They do about half of the stock trades, and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

Too much.

Your precise grasp of this issue is very convincing.

They do about half of the stock trades

And what do they do when they trade? Can you explain it?

and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

I'm not buying and selling the stocks in my 401k every day, how do they steal from me?

From the OP:
"This (transaction tax) makes financial markets fairer and possibly less volatile. As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society. HFTs account for roughly half all stock trades and much of their business model would be threatened by the proposed transactions tax.

If you're still not convinced, read the OP links. The transaction tax is a very good thing.

As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society.

That drama queen? He's funny!

Ok, TSLA is trading at $711.15-Bid $711.19-Offer.
I try to buy 100 shares at $711.19.....how does an HFT swoop in and steal my money? Any idea?

When big investors buy any stocks that you have, the high-frequency traders steal some of the investment.
They provide no value to society. You're the drama queen whining about something you apparently know very little about.

They don't steal any of your investment.

Yes. They do. Theft of capital in thousandths of a second is how they make money.

Since when is buying and selling quickly theft?

 

[Lesh]

So if I make a transfer of investments within my 401K I will have to pay the fucking government so that they will have more money to give away to the Negroes and Illegals?

A. Your racism is duly noted. That's not where the money goes. Of course you would have less problem obviously if it went to programs that excluded people of color

B. The tax is minimal and would hardly affect 401Ks if at all.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I support the proposed transaction tax. It will hit the high-speed traders more than me or other "buy and hold" investors.

How much money do these high-speed traders currently make every year?

They make too much. They do about half of the stock trades, and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

Too much.

Your precise grasp of this issue is very convincing.

They do about half of the stock trades

And what do they do when they trade? Can you explain it?

and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

I'm not buying and selling the stocks in my 401k every day, how do they steal from me?

From the OP:
"This (transaction tax) makes financial markets fairer and possibly less volatile. As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society. HFTs account for roughly half all stock trades and much of their business model would be threatened by the proposed transactions tax.

If you're still not convinced, read the OP links. The transaction tax is a very good thing.

As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society.

That drama queen? He's funny!

Ok, TSLA is trading at $711.15-Bid $711.19-Offer.
I try to buy 100 shares at $711.19.....how does an HFT swoop in and steal my money? Any idea?

When big investors buy any stocks that you have, the high-frequency traders steal some of the investment.
They provide no value to society. You're the drama queen whining about something you apparently know very little about.

They don't steal any of your investment.

Yes. They do. Theft of capital in thousandths of a second is how they make money.

Since when is buying and selling quickly theft?

It's not, it's trading on steroids. Profitable also

 

[Blues Man]

We have the fattest country on the planet I don't think anyone is food insecure

Did I say we were?

but food security is still the primary purpose for the Dept of Ag

No it's not.

It's to give subsidies to agribusiness to grow cheap crops for other corporations

well also, for those us that buy food at the grocery store.

From big corporations.

Why else would the government pay farmers to only plant one product and give them subsidies to do so? It's to drive down the price so big corporations can buy more and then mark it up and sell it to you

 

[Blues Man]

I support the proposed transaction tax. It will hit the high-speed traders more than me or other "buy and hold" investors.

How much money do these high-speed traders currently make every year?

They make too much. They do about half of the stock trades, and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

Too much.

Your precise grasp of this issue is very convincing.

They do about half of the stock trades

And what do they do when they trade? Can you explain it?

and do nothing but steal our 401k investments.

I'm not buying and selling the stocks in my 401k every day, how do they steal from me?

From the OP:
"This (transaction tax) makes financial markets fairer and possibly less volatile. As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society. HFTs account for roughly half all stock trades and much of their business model would be threatened by the proposed transactions tax.

If you're still not convinced, read the OP links. The transaction tax is a very good thing.

As described by Michael Lewis in Flash Boys, high frequency traders (HFTs) can earn profits by front-running other trades by micro-seconds, an activity that raises costs for legitimate traders and provides no value to society.

That drama queen? He's funny!

Ok, TSLA is trading at $711.15-Bid $711.19-Offer.
I try to buy 100 shares at $711.19.....how does an HFT swoop in and steal my money? Any idea?

When big investors buy any stocks that you have, the high-frequency traders steal some of the investment.
They provide no value to society. You're the drama queen whining about something you apparently know very little about.

They don't steal any of your investment.

Yes. They do. Theft of capital in thousandths of a second is how they make money.

Since when is buying and selling quickly theft?

It's not, it's trading on steroids. Profitable also

Exactly and it doesn't really beat the buy and hold strategies

 

[bripat9643]

we once again have Trumpsters pretending to be fiscally responsible and attacking others.

What trumpsters wanted was an end to the lockouts

but if you did that democrats would not have an excuse to continue your massive borrow and spend pork barrel policies

8 trillion in spending that wasn't paid for under Trump.

Why didn't Nancy do something......

It's not her thing. She has no desire to address the debt. Why do you think she does?

Cause that's her job......

Her job is to raise campaign donations. That's the only reason she has her position.

But again, how do you expect Nancy and the Dems to do what Trump and the Republicans refused to do? They don't run on the debt.

Sorry,,.,,,the GOP and Trump attempted numerous times to cut spending...blocked by the dems, and called every name under the book by their propagandist for doing so..."grandma killers," claiming htey wanted people to die of hunger etc.

The largest driver of debt, is the entitlement programs, such as medicare and medicaid...and the left blocks any attempt by the GOP to address it.

Please, stop. No one could have blocked his first two years and he could have vetoed anything. He supported things like billions in bail outs that led to the debt.

But thanks for proving my beliefs for me.

Of course they could....and did...it's called a Filibuster. For example...the Farm Bill....the GOP simply added work requirements for SNAP....the Dems blocked it, and literally threatened to shut down the entire Ag Department over it. The GOP was faced with shutting down the Dept of Ag, or caving to the extortion by the Dems.

What would be the downside of shutting down the Department of Agriculture?

A lot....the Department of Ag, runs for example the food inspection...which helps ensure that food produced and sold on the market meats some basic standards for consumption. In addition, the run, clean, and maintain the national forest, which are a great resource not just for leisure, but natural resources, such as timber....as well as enforce federal laws on those lands.

Yeah, because so many people were dropping dead before the Dept of AG was created. The idea that businesses are going to poison their customers is one of the dumbest ideas socialists have ever conceived.

They do a shitty job of maintaining the national forests. That's why we have all these huge fires constantly.

If the Dept of AG disappeared tomorrow, no one would even notice.

well actually yeah...people were dropping dead of pretty easily avoidable things.

People certainly would notice...it's been around independently, since Lincoln, and in some form since our founding.

ROFL! Before the Roosevelt administration it was mostly a boondoggle program for passing out swag to farmers.

well that could be said for a lot of Federal agencies. I am not quite sure how that proves your point

True, it could be said for almost all of them. What's your point?

My point is that we don't need the Dept of Ag, so why should anyone care if its budget doesn't get approved?