Democrats, what would be a good trade-off for the $5B?

[Mac1958]

So not a lot of serious ideas, I take it.

Did you expect anything more?

Fair point.
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[Jitss617]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
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OP, the title SHOULD be

"Republicans, why do you want to waste $5B on political stunting?"

Because that's what it is.

As a poor American it’s not a waste. Illegals are moving to poor neighborhoods and taking resources that only belong to Americans.

What exactly are these folks taking from you?

Well jobs.. my family grew up poor in Boston all the jobs my father did growing up are now taken by illegals of migrants that don’t invest in America. And then lower the wages because most live in a house with 20 other people. American culture we don’t live like that.
They also take school resources, I went to inner city schools flooded with them, they destroyed my education

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If I'm Trump, I never sign anything they want until they kneel before reality. Not one thing. I would literally bury them in Executive Orders and, with Senate cooperation, investigations of the House Democrat leadership and their media cohorts.

So. There it is.

 

[MarcATL]

So not a lot of serious ideas, I take it.

Ignoring my previous responses I take it...

OP, the title SHOULD be

"Republicans, why do you want to waste $5B on political stunting?"

Because that's what it is.

Where is the SANITY in wasting $5B on a political stunt that you KNOW won't do anything to curb the problem you say you're stopping?

 

[WillowTree]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

OP, the title SHOULD be

"Republicans, why do you want to waste $5B on political stunting?"

Because that's what it is.

As a poor American it’s not a waste. Illegals are moving to poor neighborhoods and taking resources that only belong to Americans.

What exactly are these folks taking from you?

Our money! Our school chairs, our hospital beds, our food, our jobs, our identities and some of us are losing our lives and. They are not supposed to be here!

 

[candycorn]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If the first Bush were still alive you could ask him how Dems keep promises. They don't.

Five billion for the wall is cheap when you consider the billions Illegals cost we the tax payer every year.

Build the wall. No more can get in and we can boot those that are here out. They won't be able to get back in.

Win, win for the tax payers.

I thought the ACE was going to build it; that is what you said 2 weeks ago.

I don't care who pays for it. It will be well worth the cost in the billions saved every year.

BUT Trump promised over 20 times that Mexico would pay Why do you support a lying pos?

Lets not hijack Mac’s thread….

 

[Jitss617]

As a poor American it’s not a waste. Illegals are moving to poor neighborhoods and taking resources that only belong to Americans.

Link?

Public education, health care, housing, jobs, they don’t protest civic leaders and usually let democrats do as they please dot comm

 

[shockedcanadian]

If I'm the Democrats are don't expect or accept anything for the Wall. I would have gotten behind it 100% from the start and claimed some political points for doing so. It's not as if Democrat voters aren't going to still dislike Trump anyways, but they could have swung a few moderates and Independents who believe state sovereignty and security is paramount. Over 300,000 Americans donated to the Wall, anyone going to argue they were all loyal Trump voters?

Why would anyone play politics with the National Security of the United States? I think it's repugnant. You need a wall to protect your nation from illegal entry and all the risks it presets, period.

 

[edward37]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If I'm Trump, I never sign anything they want until they kneel before reality. Not one thing. I would literally bury them in Executive Orders and, with Senate cooperation, investigations of the House Democrat leadership and their media cohorts.

So. There it is.

Doesn't the House allocate money for trump to spend?

 

[MarcATL]

Are you against the security of African American neighborhoods?

Are you an African American?

 

[MarcATL]

If I'm the Democrats are don't expect or accept anything for the Wall. I would have gotten behind it 100% from the start and claimed some political points for doing so. It's not as if Democrat voters aren't going to still dislike Trump anyways, but they could have swung a few moderates and Independents who believe state sovereignty and security is paramount. Over 300,000 Americans donated to the Wall, anyone going to argue they were all loyal Trump voters?

Why would anyone play politics with the National Security of the United States? I think it's repugnant.

When you get all your Republicans in Congress on board, then come talk to us.

 

[Jitss617]

Are you against the security of African American neighborhoods?

Are you an African American?

What does jay have to do with the security of there neighborhoods which I live in?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If I'm Trump, I never sign anything they want until they kneel before reality. Not one thing. I would literally bury them in Executive Orders and, with Senate cooperation, investigations of the House Democrat leadership and their media cohorts.

So. There it is.

Doesn't the House allocate money for trump to spend?

He can redirect funds already allocated to the Executive branch agencies and the military, for starters.

 

[Moonglow]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

I doubt any Dems in Congress post here.

 

[mudwhistle]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

Where is the SANITY in wasting $5B on a political stunt that you KNOW won't do anything to curb the problem you say you're stopping?

The political stunt is refusing to fund the wall because it would mean Trump’s core campaign promise was build a wall.

 

[shockedcanadian]

If I'm the Democrats are don't expect or accept anything for the Wall. I would have gotten behind it 100% from the start and claimed some political points for doing so. It's not as if Democrat voters aren't going to still dislike Trump anyways, but they could have swung a few moderates and Independents who believe state sovereignty and security is paramount. Over 300,000 Americans donated to the Wall, anyone going to argue they were all loyal Trump voters?

Why would anyone play politics with the National Security of the United States? I think it's repugnant.

When you get all your Republicans in Congress on board, then come talk to us.

Yes, there might be some who are more concerned with donor desires and personal wealth than American National Security. Every OD that occurs, death or hundred billion of taxpayer money spent a year is on their hands.

For businesses looking for cheap low wages that undermine the U.S, all these costs is just one big subsidy to their businesses.

 

[edward37]

If I'm the Democrats are don't expect or accept anything for the Wall. I would have gotten behind it 100% from the start and claimed some political points for doing so. It's not as if Democrat voters aren't going to still dislike Trump anyways, but they could have swung a few moderates and Independents who believe state sovereignty and security is paramount. Over 300,000 Americans donated to the Wall, anyone going to argue they were all loyal Trump voters?

Why would anyone play politics with the National Security of the United States? I think it's repugnant. You need a wall to protect your nation from illegal entry and all the risks it presets, period.

Playing politics is republicans and trumps game Remember the 1st SC pick ? and now he blackmails Dems who aren't having any of it?......The art of the deal BS

 

[candycorn]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If I'm Trump, I never sign anything they want until they kneel before reality. Not one thing. I would literally bury them in Executive Orders and, with Senate cooperation, investigations of the House Democrat leadership and their media cohorts.

So. There it is.

Ahh, now EOs are good things? A few years ago, you guys were calling them unconstitutional. Oh well, another abandoned principle of the GOP…we’ll add that to family values, fiscal responsibility, honesty etc…

LOL.

Politically, the 2020 Senate races have a lot of red in them and a very motivated blue base. And in two of the states (KS, ME), they just got through electing DEM governors and have GOP senators up for re-election.

 

[edward37]

This is politics, after all. Give and take. Or at least that USED to be the rule, when we were sane.

What would be a good trade-off to write that check? Improved DACA status? Amnesty of some kind? Maybe another issue? Climate change funding?
.

OP, the title SHOULD be

"Republicans, why do you want to waste $5B on political stunting?"

Because that's what it is.

As a poor American it’s not a waste. Illegals are moving to poor neighborhoods and taking resources that only belong to Americans.

What exactly are these folks taking from you?

Our money! Our school chairs, our hospital beds, our food, our jobs, our identities and some of us are losing our lives and. They are not supposed to be here!

SO? get illegals out Just try not to kill their kids on the way There is a legal process to enter America Make sure that is used fairly

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Whatever is decided about a potential trade off; the paramount issue is to get whatever is traded in the same legislation. You can’t trust Trump to follow through with a promise. So whatever is decided, it must happen either at the same time or before the funding for the wall.

If I’m the Democrats, I never give $5B; period. But that’s just me.

If the first Bush were still alive you could ask him how Dems keep promises. They don't.

Five billion for the wall is cheap when you consider the billions Illegals cost we the tax payer every year.

Build the wall. No more can get in and we can boot those that are here out. They won't be able to get back in.

Win, win for the tax payers.

I thought the ACE was going to build it; that is what you said 2 weeks ago.

I don't care who pays for it. It will be well worth the cost in the billions saved every year.

BUT Trump promised over 20 times that Mexico would pay Why do you support a lying pos?

Your supported the lying O. No difference.