Dennis Kucinich: Why Do Civilians Killed By US Bombers Count Less?...

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Look Moron, the USA has never gassed the USA which is the equivalent of what Assad did.

Were u born stupid or did you perfect being dumb at Harvard

Unbelievable delusional hypocrisy. Slaughtering innocent women and children is somehow 'ok', as long it's the US doing it. Y'all Warmongers really are demented.

When did the USA gas children in the USA?

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

So why are you making shit up if you have all of this historical record? Isn't that enough?

Do some research, your Government has committed numerous heinous acts against its own Citizens. But hey, you wanna live in blissful denial about that, so be it i guess. Most Americans are misguided sheep.

Can you read? If you have all of that evidence of why we are so bad, why do you need to make up shit that is not true simply to justify your argument?

 

[Muhammed]

It is an interesting question. Good piece by Dennis Kusinich.


The number of civilians killed in recent US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is rising. As we bomb villages to save villages isn't it time to look back to 2002, when President Bush was so sure Iraq had WMDs that he launched a war which killed over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Nearly 4,500 US soldiers have been killed. The monetary cost of the war in Iraq will exceed three trillion dollars. The US war in Iraq is in its 14th year.

Now President Trump, with the support of Saudi Arabia (which has helped fund many of the ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra fighters from 90 different countries who have descended on Syria) is escalating the war, amid rising calls for regime change, in the face of a recent gas attack (which has still not been independently investigated).

Why are the innocent civilian deaths acknowledged to be caused by US bombers less consequential?

Why Do Civilians Killed by US Bombers Count Less?

Who said they "count less" in the first place?

Seems to me that Kucinich is attacking a strawman.

 

[Dschrute3]

Unbelievable delusional hypocrisy. Slaughtering innocent women and children is somehow 'ok', as long it's the US doing it. Y'all Warmongers really are demented.

When did the USA gas children in the USA?

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

So why are you making shit up if you have all of this historical record? Isn't that enough?

Do some research, your Government has committed numerous heinous acts against its own Citizens. But hey, you wanna live in blissful denial about that, so be it i guess. Most Americans are misguided sheep.

Can you read? If you have all of that evidence of why we are so bad, why do you need to make up shit that is not true simply to justify your argument?

You clearly haven't researched the subject. When or if you do, you'll quickly learn that your Government has engaged in numerous awful acts against its own Citizens over the years. Maybe some foreign Nations should declare 'Regime Change' on the US?

 

[cnm]

When America bombs a location harm to civilians is accidental, unintented and regrettable.

How can their deaths be accidental and unintended when it is known civilians are in the area bombed.

Incidental, maybe, but intended and known.

 

[Dschrute3]

It is an interesting question. Good piece by Dennis Kusinich.


The number of civilians killed in recent US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is rising. As we bomb villages to save villages isn't it time to look back to 2002, when President Bush was so sure Iraq had WMDs that he launched a war which killed over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Nearly 4,500 US soldiers have been killed. The monetary cost of the war in Iraq will exceed three trillion dollars. The US war in Iraq is in its 14th year.

Now President Trump, with the support of Saudi Arabia (which has helped fund many of the ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra fighters from 90 different countries who have descended on Syria) is escalating the war, amid rising calls for regime change, in the face of a recent gas attack (which has still not been independently investigated).

Why are the innocent civilian deaths acknowledged to be caused by US bombers less consequential?

Why Do Civilians Killed by US Bombers Count Less?

Who said they "count less" in the first place?

Seems to me that Kucinich is attacking a strawman.

Nah, he's accurately summing up the average delusional American Warmonger.

 

[tinydancer]

Unbelievable delusional hypocrisy. Slaughtering innocent women and children is somehow 'ok', as long it's the US doing it. Y'all Warmongers really are demented.

When did the USA gas children in the USA?

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

But you can't do that research to prove me wrong......LOL

Your Government is no 'Angel' my friend. It's hardly above abusing its own Citizens. Just do some basic research, it won't take you too long to realize your Government has committed awful crimes against its People.

Again kid, when did any US President Gas American kids......................................

You may stop masturbating at any time

Oh Waco rings a bell. Gassing vs burning citizens alive really doesn't count as far as the victims go. The victims all end up dead.

 

[tinydancer]

When America bombs a location harm to civilians is accidental, unintented and regrettable.

How can their deaths be accidental and unintended when it is known civilians are in the area bombed.

Incidental, maybe, but intended and known.

Ditto Aleppo though but the Syrian army still had to take the city and their fellow citizens back from being held hostage by Jabhat al Nusra (AQ in Syria).

 

[Dschrute3]

When did the USA gas children in the USA?

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

But you can't do that research to prove me wrong......LOL

Your Government is no 'Angel' my friend. It's hardly above abusing its own Citizens. Just do some basic research, it won't take you too long to realize your Government has committed awful crimes against its People.

Again kid, when did any US President Gas American kids......................................

You may stop masturbating at any time

Oh Waco rings a bell. Gassing vs burning citizens alive really doesn't count as far as the victims go. The victims all end up dead.

Yes, Waco was a flat-out massacre of American Citizens. The US Government intentionally burned and slaughtered innocent women & children. It could have been handled much differently. But the Government chose massacre.

 

[Bassman007]

When did the USA gas children in the USA?

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

But you can't do that research to prove me wrong......LOL

Your Government is no 'Angel' my friend. It's hardly above abusing its own Citizens. Just do some basic research, it won't take you too long to realize your Government has committed awful crimes against its People.

Again kid, when did any US President Gas American kids......................................

You may stop masturbating at any time

Oh Waco rings a bell. Gassing vs burning citizens alive really doesn't count as far as the victims go. The victims all end up dead.

The people at Waco killed themselves as they could have left at any time....................They chose to die for their leader, because they were all nuts. This is not gassing innocent children

 

[tinydancer]

Here's the deal. Assad is trying to regain his country and free his citizens from the two key terror groups. That this is a civil war is total bullshit,

When the terrorists are comprised of Sunni jihadists from over 80 countries it's NOT a freaking civil war.

In my world it's called a fucking invasion.

Who are we to tell Assad he can't fight for his own country and fight for his citizens.

This is truly whacked out.

 

[Dschrute3]

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

But you can't do that research to prove me wrong......LOL

Your Government is no 'Angel' my friend. It's hardly above abusing its own Citizens. Just do some basic research, it won't take you too long to realize your Government has committed awful crimes against its People.

Again kid, when did any US President Gas American kids......................................

You may stop masturbating at any time

Oh Waco rings a bell. Gassing vs burning citizens alive really doesn't count as far as the victims go. The victims all end up dead.

The people at Waco killed themselves as they could have left at any time....................They chose to die for their leader, because they were all nuts. This is not gassing innocent children

Wrong, your Government burnt fellow Americans to death. The fires were not started by the inhabitants of the compound. That was a despicable Government lie. They slaughtered those women & children. It could have been handled much differently. But the US Government chose massacre.

 

[flacaltenn]

That sounds completely delusional. Killing innocent women and kids, is killing innocent women and kids. They're brutally murdered. They're dead.

You are the delusional one if you think you can not have collateral damage in modern warfare.

Oh i see, when the US slaughters innocent women and children it's 'ok', because it's 'Collateral Damage.' But when others do it, it's a horrible 'War Crime.' Y'all American Warmongers really are delusional hypocrites.

Look Moron, the USA has never gassed the USA which is the equivalent of what Assad did.

Were u born stupid or did you perfect being dumb at Harvard

Unbelievable delusional hypocrisy. Slaughtering innocent women and children is somehow 'ok', as long it's the US doing it. Y'all Warmongers really are demented.

Give me an example of where our military has intentionally attacked civilians without a high value target being involved. I'll be waiting forever for you to dig that one up.

Train bridge in Serbia. Circa 1997. Hit a commuter train. Chinese embassy (for crap sake) in Belgrade. Doctors without Borders hospital in Afghan -- recently. How many more you want?

 

[tinydancer]

Your Government has engaged in some very disgusting violent acts against its own Citizens over the years. Just do some research, and you'll quickly realize that your Government is no 'Angel.'

But you can't do that research to prove me wrong......LOL

Your Government is no 'Angel' my friend. It's hardly above abusing its own Citizens. Just do some basic research, it won't take you too long to realize your Government has committed awful crimes against its People.

Again kid, when did any US President Gas American kids......................................

You may stop masturbating at any time

Oh Waco rings a bell. Gassing vs burning citizens alive really doesn't count as far as the victims go. The victims all end up dead.

The people at Waco killed themselves as they could have left at any time....................They chose to die for their leader, because they were all nuts. This is not gassing innocent children

I believe it was the terrorists. ISIS was found with a chemical weapon lab just recently in Iraq and a US general was confirming that they used them.

Mosul late January.

 

[flacaltenn]

Kucinich is that PRINCIPLED liberal Democrat type that''s been PURGED from the party today. CONSISTENTLY anti-agression when it comes to military use of force. He's worth listening to. He's the conscience that the Dems have lost.. .

 

[Dschrute3]

Kucinich is that PRINCIPLED liberal Democrat type that''s been PURGED from the party today. CONSISTENTLY anti-agression when it comes to military use of force. He's worth listening to. He's the conscience that the Dems have lost.. .

Spot On. There's a difference between a true Liberal and a Progressive. I respect Kusinich. It's too bad the Democrats have moved away from true Liberalism.

 

[tinydancer]

When everyone was running around and saying ISIS didn't have any, the Pentagon confirmed that they used them.

Against US troops. They were weaponizing them with rockets.

Islamic State fired crude chemical weapons on US troops – Pentagon
Iraqi forces showed journalists a tank of the chemical agent and a warehouse of more than a dozen surface-to-surface rockets bearing Russian inscriptions.

Brigadier General Haider Fadhil from Iraqi special forces said French officials tested the chemical this week and confirmed it was a mustard agent. “We know that they were using this place to experiment with chemical weapons,” he said, referring to Isis.

Fadhil did not specify the quantity or potency of the chemical, but Iraqi soldiers were able to visit the site for about 10 minutes without exhibiting symptoms of exposure.

Fadhil said he believed the facility was set up in the Nineveh ruins – an ancient site away from the city’s dense neighbourhoods – to keep it a secret from Mosul residents who might be passing information to Iraqi forces and the US-led coalition.

The number of casualties due to Isis chemical weapons is a small fraction compared with the hundreds of civilians killed in car and suicide bombings carried out by the group. Experts say that is largely due to the low grade of the weapons and the group’s lack of access to efficient delivery systems.

The types of rockets found at the site suggest Isis was attempting to weaponise the chemical agent, Fadhil said. He added that he believed the facility was being used up until just one or two weeks ago.
Iraqi forces declared Mosul’s eastern half fully liberated, just over three months after the operation to retake the city from Isis was formally launched in October.

Chemical weapons found in Mosul in Isis lab, say Iraqi forces

 

[toomuchtime_]

It is an interesting question. Good piece by Dennis Kusinich.


The number of civilians killed in recent US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is rising. As we bomb villages to save villages isn't it time to look back to 2002, when President Bush was so sure Iraq had WMDs that he launched a war which killed over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Nearly 4,500 US soldiers have been killed. The monetary cost of the war in Iraq will exceed three trillion dollars. The US war in Iraq is in its 14th year.

Now President Trump, with the support of Saudi Arabia (which has helped fund many of the ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra fighters from 90 different countries who have descended on Syria) is escalating the war, amid rising calls for regime change, in the face of a recent gas attack (which has still not been independently investigated).

Why are the innocent civilian deaths acknowledged to be caused by US bombers less consequential?

Why Do Civilians Killed by US Bombers Count Less?

Kucinich never did have much to say that was useful. The US along with Israel has the best combatant to civilian ratio of any modern military and Russia, although it has improved somewhat, has he worst. The US spends a fortune using smart bombs to avoid killing civilians; Russia doesn't use smart bombs. Although the US civilian to combatant ratio was higher at the beginning of the second Iraq war, the US worked hard to bring it down to 1-1. By contrast, Russia's civilian to combatant ratio in the first Chechen war was 10-1 and in the second Chechen war was still 4-1. Of course the claim the US killed 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis is pure bullshit. By actual body counts, there were less than 10,000 civilian casualties, but two bizarre studies using epidemiological models for a statistic analysis came up the the crazy numbers of hundreds of thousands but no one ever found more than 8,000 dead civilian bodies. Kucinich was a crackpot then and is a crackpot now.

 

[Dschrute3]

It is an interesting question. Good piece by Dennis Kusinich.


The number of civilians killed in recent US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is rising. As we bomb villages to save villages isn't it time to look back to 2002, when President Bush was so sure Iraq had WMDs that he launched a war which killed over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Nearly 4,500 US soldiers have been killed. The monetary cost of the war in Iraq will exceed three trillion dollars. The US war in Iraq is in its 14th year.

Now President Trump, with the support of Saudi Arabia (which has helped fund many of the ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra fighters from 90 different countries who have descended on Syria) is escalating the war, amid rising calls for regime change, in the face of a recent gas attack (which has still not been independently investigated).

Why are the innocent civilian deaths acknowledged to be caused by US bombers less consequential?

Why Do Civilians Killed by US Bombers Count Less?

Kucinich never did have much to say that was useful. The US along with Israel has the best combatant to civilian ratio of any modern military and Russia, although it has improved somewhat, has he worst. The US spends a fortune using smart bombs to avoid killing civilians; Russia doesn't use smart bombs. Although the US civilian to combatant ratio was higher at the beginning of the second Iraq war, the US worked hard to bring it down to 1-1. By contrast, Russia's civilian to combatant ratio in the first Chechen war was 10-1 and in the second Chechen war was still 4-1. Of course the claim the US killed 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis is pure bullshit. By actual body counts, there were less than 10,000 civilian casualties, but two bizarre studies using epidemiological models for a statistic analysis came up the the crazy numbers of hundreds of thousands but no one ever found more than 8,000 dead civilian bodies. Kucinich was a crackpot then and is a crackpot now.

You clearly didn't read what he said. Because he presented absolute fact.

 

[flacaltenn]

Kucinich is that PRINCIPLED liberal Democrat type that''s been PURGED from the party today. CONSISTENTLY anti-agression when it comes to military use of force. He's worth listening to. He's the conscience that the Dems have lost.. .

Spot On. There's a difference between a true Liberal and a Progressive. I respect Kusinich. It's too bad the Democrats have moved away from true Liberalism.

Absolutely.. The "establishment" wing of the DNC are really no different from the despised "neo-cons" that goaded us into our first disasters in the Mid East. In fact, most of the origninal Neo-Con bunch are ex Clinton Admin staff that fled to the Repubs.

And the Progressive wing has foreign policy on their back burners. Pretend it doesn't exist.

 

[toomuchtime_]

It is an interesting question. Good piece by Dennis Kusinich.


The number of civilians killed in recent US airstrikes in Iraq and Syria is rising. As we bomb villages to save villages isn't it time to look back to 2002, when President Bush was so sure Iraq had WMDs that he launched a war which killed over 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis. Nearly 4,500 US soldiers have been killed. The monetary cost of the war in Iraq will exceed three trillion dollars. The US war in Iraq is in its 14th year.

Now President Trump, with the support of Saudi Arabia (which has helped fund many of the ISIS, Al Qaeda and Al Nusra fighters from 90 different countries who have descended on Syria) is escalating the war, amid rising calls for regime change, in the face of a recent gas attack (which has still not been independently investigated).

Why are the innocent civilian deaths acknowledged to be caused by US bombers less consequential?

Why Do Civilians Killed by US Bombers Count Less?

Kucinich never did have much to say that was useful. The US along with Israel has the best combatant to civilian ratio of any modern military and Russia, although it has improved somewhat, has he worst. The US spends a fortune using smart bombs to avoid killing civilians; Russia doesn't use smart bombs. Although the US civilian to combatant ratio was higher at the beginning of the second Iraq war, the US worked hard to bring it down to 1-1. By contrast, Russia's civilian to combatant ratio in the first Chechen war was 10-1 and in the second Chechen war was still 4-1. Of course the claim the US killed 1,000,000 innocent Iraqis is pure bullshit. By actual body counts, there were less than 10,000 civilian casualties, but two bizarre studies using epidemiological models for a statistic analysis came up the the crazy numbers of hundreds of thousands but no one ever found more than 8,000 dead civilian bodies. Kucinich was a crackpot then and is a crackpot now.

You clearly didn't read what he said. Because he presented absolute fact.

I read the article you posted a link to and there were no facts in it. I'm becoming concerned that you may not know what a fact is.