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And you have evidence of that statistic, right?
Yes, I posted it on another thread. Here's a chart of how many rapes are reported, how many accused faced trial, and how many were actually jailed.
How do you determine who the bad apples are? Because some random person said so?
Why not?
Betsy DeVos Plans to Weaken Obama’s Campus Sexual Assault Rules
The Department of Education announced on Thursday that it will weaken a set of requirements for how colleges and universities are expected to handle cases of sexual assault on college campuses. In a speech at George Mason University in Virginia, Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos criticized a set of rules that the department hadissued in 2011 that, under Title IX, forced colleges to conduct their own investigations and stated police reports cannot be used to determine whether a violation occurred, because a criminal case requires stronger evidence.
The Department of Education will take comments from the public before issuing new guidelines, though DeVos’ remarks suggest that the new standard will likely to be a significant departure from the Obama-era rules. DeVos called the current process for handling sexual misconduct “shameful,” a “failed system,” and “wholly unAmerican.”
“The truth is that the system established by the prior administration has failed too many students,” DeVos said. “Survivors, victims of a lack of due process, and campus administrators have all told me that the current approach does a disservice to everyone involved.” Critics of the Obama-era rule have argued that it does not offer adequate due process for the students accused of sexual misconduct. Under the directive, institutions of higher education use the “preponderance of evidence” standard, which requires a 51 percent certainty in determining guilt. Sexual violence is often difficult to prove to a higher certainty, and false accusations are extremely rare. But in July, DeVos’ deputy in charge of civil rights suggested that 90 percent of sexual assault allegations at colleges are false.
I predict that testimony from experts in sexual assault investigation and prosecution, you know, police and prosecutors… will be ignored. Don't bother bringing stats or data…that's elitist.
She "believes" in her gut that 90% of allegations are false… so it must be. Because we trust the gut over any thorough and thoughtful analysis and research any day of the week and twice on Sundays… That's the alternative fact America we live in. It doesn't matter what any so-called "expert" tells her… I mean, she's never been raped, so it probably never happens…
Betsy DeVos Plans to Weaken Obama’s Campus Sexual Assault Rules
The Department of Education announced on Thursday that it will weaken a set of requirements for how colleges and universities are expected to handle cases of sexual assault on college campuses. In a speech at George Mason University in Virginia, Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos criticized a set of rules that the department hadissued in 2011 that, under Title IX, forced colleges to conduct their own investigations and stated police reports cannot be used to determine whether a violation occurred, because a criminal case requires stronger evidence.
The Department of Education will take comments from the public before issuing new guidelines, though DeVos’ remarks suggest that the new standard will likely to be a significant departure from the Obama-era rules. DeVos called the current process for handling sexual misconduct “shameful,” a “failed system,” and “wholly unAmerican.”
“The truth is that the system established by the prior administration has failed too many students,” DeVos said. “Survivors, victims of a lack of due process, and campus administrators have all told me that the current approach does a disservice to everyone involved.” Critics of the Obama-era rule have argued that it does not offer adequate due process for the students accused of sexual misconduct. Under the directive, institutions of higher education use the “preponderance of evidence” standard, which requires a 51 percent certainty in determining guilt. Sexual violence is often difficult to prove to a higher certainty, and false accusations are extremely rare. But in July, DeVos’ deputy in charge of civil rights suggested that 90 percent of sexual assault allegations at colleges are false.
I predict that testimony from experts in sexual assault investigation and prosecution, you know, police and prosecutors… will be ignored. Don't bother bringing stats or data…that's elitist.
She "believes" in her gut that 90% of allegations are false… so it must be. Because we trust the gut over any thorough and thoughtful analysis and research any day of the week and twice on Sundays… That's the alternative fact America we live in. It doesn't matter what any so-called "expert" tells her… I mean, she's never been raped, so it probably never happens…
I know a woman who was raped by a fellow high school student. During the investigation it turned out that the criminal had raped another girl two years earlier at the school and the school knew about it. The criminal told the earlier victim, "I'm a rich white kid. I'll hurt you if you report it. " So the earlier victim reported it only to the school which did not call police. So the later victim suffered due to this egregious lack of ethics by the criminal and the school.Betsy DeVos Plans to Weaken Obama’s Campus Sexual Assault Rules
The Department of Education announced on Thursday that it will weaken a set of requirements for how colleges and universities are expected to handle cases of sexual assault on college campuses. In a speech at George Mason University in Virginia, Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos criticized a set of rules that the department hadissued in 2011 that, under Title IX, forced colleges to conduct their own investigations and stated police reports cannot be used to determine whether a violation occurred, because a criminal case requires stronger evidence.
The Department of Education will take comments from the public before issuing new guidelines, though DeVos’ remarks suggest that the new standard will likely to be a significant departure from the Obama-era rules. DeVos called the current process for handling sexual misconduct “shameful,” a “failed system,” and “wholly unAmerican.”
“The truth is that the system established by the prior administration has failed too many students,” DeVos said. “Survivors, victims of a lack of due process, and campus administrators have all told me that the current approach does a disservice to everyone involved.” Critics of the Obama-era rule have argued that it does not offer adequate due process for the students accused of sexual misconduct. Under the directive, institutions of higher education use the “preponderance of evidence” standard, which requires a 51 percent certainty in determining guilt. Sexual violence is often difficult to prove to a higher certainty, and false accusations are extremely rare. But in July, DeVos’ deputy in charge of civil rights suggested that 90 percent of sexual assault allegations at colleges are false.
I predict that testimony from experts in sexual assault investigation and prosecution, you know, police and prosecutors… will be ignored. Don't bother bringing stats or data…that's elitist.
She "believes" in her gut that 90% of allegations are false… so it must be. Because we trust the gut over any thorough and thoughtful analysis and research any day of the week and twice on Sundays… That's the alternative fact America we live in. It doesn't matter what any so-called "expert" tells her… I mean, she's never been raped, so it probably never happens…
Anything that empowers criminal society like this is wrong morally.
It is ANY wonder as to why DeVos needs secret service protection???
That's a situation created entirely by Obama's bullshit policies.I thought we were innocent until proven guilty in this country
From a legal standpoint, yes.
From a civil standpoint, not so much. Really, the Campuses are between a rock and a hard place here. They don't throw the rapists off, they can be named as a co-conspirator held liable. THAT'S the problem.
The reality, though, is that we don't treat rape seriously enough. For every wrongly accused Frat Boy who acted the fool at a frat party, there's 100 guys who get off because the campus intimidates victims into silence.
It is ANY wonder as to why DeVos needs secret service protection???
Because of Nazi nutbugers like you?
It is ANY wonder as to why DeVos needs secret service protection???
Because of Nazi nutbugers like you?
Most of Trumps cabinet are billionaires, they're sponging off the government by not paying for their own security.
1. have you heard of anyone going to prison on the charge of rape WITHOUT a court due-process?
Someone may be expelled from a school, but going to jail without due process???
2. We have certainly employed "due process" in investigating Hillary for Whitewater and Benghazi...YET, according to you nitwits, that is NOT enough......
So, sometimes you folks like the due process and sometimes it is YOU morons who want to lynch someone based on biases.
No.....what they are trying to do is actually get police and law enforcement involved instead of the kangaroo campus courts that are destroying lives with false allegations and with extra legal practices....moron.
That's awesome. Yes, let's leave it to a criminal justice system that only convicts 3% of the people who commit rape.
So, a different process, that violates the Constitutional basis of criminal justice in our nation, and which has a very high rate of falsely convicting those of crimes which they did not actually commit, is an improvement?
Sorry, but government institutions don't have the authority to violate your Constitutional rights. You always have a right to due process.So, a different process, that violates the Constitutional basis of criminal justice in our nation, and which has a very high rate of falsely convicting those of crimes which they did not actually commit, is an improvement?
again, there isn't a right to go to college. Going to college is a privilege. There is a contract between the college and the student. We give you an education, you give us money and hold to a code of conduct, which includes, "Don't rape your fellow students".
Again, the universities are in a no-win situation here. If they knew Timmy was a rapist and didn't throw him off campus, they are liable for anything he does.
You have posted two charts that don't agree with each other. The first one says there are two false accusations for every 32 prosecutions. The second also says there is one false accusation for every 161 prosecutions. Furthermore, the first one says there 20 acquittals for every 32 prosecutions. Doesn't an acquittal count as a false accusation?[
And you have evidence of that statistic, right?
Yes, I posted it on another thread. Here's a chart of how many rapes are reported, how many accused faced trial, and how many were actually jailed.
So, a different process, that violates the Constitutional basis of criminal justice in our nation, and which has a very high rate of falsely convicting those of crimes which they did not actually commit, is an improvement?
again, there isn't a right to go to college. Going to college is a privilege. There is a contract between the college and the student. We give you an education, you give us money and hold to a code of conduct, which includes, "Don't rape your fellow students".
Again, the universities are in a no-win situation here. If they knew Timmy was a rapist and didn't throw him off campus, they are liable for anything he does.
Which is why we have laws and courts. Everyone gets their day in court both the accuser and accused.I've known girls who were raped; I've known guys who were falsely accused.
The former is tragic, the second only slightly less so. A false allegation can ruin a young man's life. They should not be assumed to be guilty. There are some pretty twisted females out there who will abuse the trust we give rape victims to destroy someone's life, often for the dumbest of reasons.
In the most recent case I'm talking about, because the dude was black, and she was embarrassed when people found out, so she tried to make it seem like he drugged her. Complete bullshit; the cops figured her out in a day (no charges against the lying slag, of course), but if they were less competent it could've been tragic for him.
The cops should handle such serious cases. Not a bunch of dimwits on a school board.
Those two falsely accused in your chart sure are happy we have a legal system.[
And you have evidence of that statistic, right?
Yes, I posted it on another thread. Here's a chart of how many rapes are reported, how many accused faced trial, and how many were actually jailed.
Sorry, but government institutions don't have the authority to violate your Constitutional rights. You always have a right to due process.
The no-wing situation is bullshit. All the university has to do is leave it in the hands of the responsible authority. Instead what they do is intrude on the process and then impose their own unconstitutionality process. These universities are all asking for major lawsuits from the defendants, and many of them have already been sued.
