DeVos to make getting away with campus rape easy again

[Meathead]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

 

[bripat9643]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

A lot of women will have sex with a guy, and then when the guy doesn't call them afterwards will experience remorse and accuse the guy of rape. It's happened hundreds of times.

 

[OldLady]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

 

[OldLady]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

A lot of women will have sex with a guy, and then when the guy doesn't call them afterwards will experience remorse and accuse the guy of rape. It's happened hundreds of times.

To you personally? That's a crock of shit, ya know.

 

[bripat9643]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

A lot of women will have sex with a guy, and then when the guy doesn't call them afterwards will experience remorse and accuse the guy of rape. It's happened hundreds of times.

To you personally? That's a crock of shit, ya know.

No, not to me personally, dingbat.

 

[Meathead]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

 

[OldLady]

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

A lot of women will have sex with a guy, and then when the guy doesn't call them afterwards will experience remorse and accuse the guy of rape. It's happened hundreds of times.

To you personally? That's a crock of shit, ya know.

No, not to me personally, dingbat.

Where did you get the factual ammunition that "It's happened hundreds of times?"

 

[OldLady]

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

 

[bripat9643]

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

A lot of women will have sex with a guy, and then when the guy doesn't call them afterwards will experience remorse and accuse the guy of rape. It's happened hundreds of times.

To you personally? That's a crock of shit, ya know.

No, not to me personally, dingbat.

Where did you get the factual ammunition that "It's happened hundreds of times?"

I cited a link to the information earlier in this thread.

 

[bripat9643]

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

No, so lets go around throwing random men in prison because they can't prosecute all the rapists.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

There's no right to attend college, but once you have applied and have been accepted you have made a contract with whatever institution you are attending. That institution can't simply toss that agreement into the waste bin on a whim. It has to observe due process.

Okay, they had due process. They questioned the victim, the questioned the rapist. Out he goes. That was simple.

You know that isn't due process. When he has a trial by jury and is convicted, then the university can kick him out.

Your is the "path of least resistance" only since Obama made it that way. Trump is changing that back to the way things were prior to Obama's reign of error.

Actually, you are going to find that the universities will keep throwing these drunken fratboys out, because they can't risk the liability.

Once someone told you he was a rapist, he became your liability.

Hmmm, no they won't, because they can't risk the liability of being sued by the unjustly accused. Several universities have already been sued. They will also have the Dept of Justice down on their ass.

Colleges are trying to protect their reputations and so would rather handle campus rape allegations themselves. Frequently, there is not enough hard evidence of rape to take it to a criminal court. But the accusation has been made and the college still has the responsibility to keep its female students safe. If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Have you noticed how your vision of justice lines up perfectly with sharia?

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

No changes in the law needed. You simply don't count on a college to handle crimes, you call the police. It's not hard to understand. Preserve evidence call the cops file a report. Done.

 

[Meathead]

This is your question:

If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Are you out of your puny mind? Wtf is wrong with you?

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

You are a dingbat, a prig and one sick puppy lady. You want to nullify due process and burden of proof as a femininazi.

No, we cannot punish the accused on the word alone of a woman that claims to have been raped!!!

ft is wrong with you?

 

[Hum Dinger]

Yep, everyone deserves to be pushed thorough a kangaroo court without due process, I mean, fuck the Constitution and actual evidence, RIGHT?

You freaking drama queens really crack me up.

Two questions on the above.......

1. have you heard of anyone going to prison on the charge of rape WITHOUT a court due-process?
Someone may be expelled from a school, but going to jail without due process???

2. We have certainly employed "due process" in investigating Hillary for Whitewater and Benghazi...YET, according to you nitwits, that is NOT enough......

So, sometimes you folks like the due process and sometimes it is YOU morons who want to lynch someone based on biases.

Did you notice schools aren't allowed to consider police reports in their kangaroo courts? It all boils down to one persons word against another. Not what I call justice, when a persons reputation can be ruined for the rest of their lives. There have been too many proven false allegations not to leave these investigations in the hands of the police.

Also, I tell ya what, put the evidence of what Comey found and the bitches obstruction and false statements in front of a grand jury with an unbiased prosecutor and I'll accept their decision. Not doing so proves there are different standards for the rich and powerful.


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Your inability to discuss anything without bringing Hillary Clinton into it borders on obsession. Hillary Clinton is not the center of the universe - though apparently she's the center of your universe. Try, just try to discuss issues without bringing her into it!

I agree with the first paragraph of your statement, but the second is just plain off topic, and off the wall.

 

[OldLady]

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

No, so lets go around throwing random men in prison because they can't prosecute all the rapists.

You are falsely accusing me of that stance. If you're going to champion "justice," you could at least be fair yourself.

 

[OldLady]

I asked first. Besides, what's wrong with my question?

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

You are a dingbat, a prig and one sick puppy lady. You want to nullify due process and burden of proof as a femininazi.

No, we cannot punish the accused on the word alone of a woman that claims to have been raped!!!

ft is wrong with you?

Knock it off, Meathead; you're acting like a troll.

 

[Meathead]

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

No, so lets go around throwing random men in prison because they can't prosecute all the rapists.

You are falsely accusing me of that stance. If you're going to champion "justice," you could at least be fair yourself.

Now you're whining about being falsely accused, eh? I find your stance on this issue deeply disturbing and you deeply disturbed.

 

[bripat9643]

You would punish people on accusation alone? I find prigs revolting, and you are definitely a prig. You yourself might be the kind of person who would level an accusation like that and ruin someone's life on a whim or because you got dumped.

Wtf is wrong with you?

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

No, so lets go around throwing random men in prison because they can't prosecute all the rapists.

You are falsely accusing me of that stance. If you're going to champion "justice," you could at least be fair yourself.

You were whining because some rapes aren't prosecuted. Apparently you believe what happened in the cases being discussed is a solution to that issue. If not, then what is your solution?

 

[OldLady]

Okay, they had due process. They questioned the victim, the questioned the rapist. Out he goes. That was simple.

You know that isn't due process. When he has a trial by jury and is convicted, then the university can kick him out.

Actually, you are going to find that the universities will keep throwing these drunken fratboys out, because they can't risk the liability.

Once someone told you he was a rapist, he became your liability.

Hmmm, no they won't, because they can't risk the liability of being sued by the unjustly accused. Several universities have already been sued. They will also have the Dept of Justice down on their ass.

Colleges are trying to protect their reputations and so would rather handle campus rape allegations themselves. Frequently, there is not enough hard evidence of rape to take it to a criminal court. But the accusation has been made and the college still has the responsibility to keep its female students safe. If your daughter told you she was raped at college but the D.A. refused to prosecute due to "lack of evidence," would you agree the guy who did it should continue to attend that school? That the school has no right to kick him out?

Have you noticed how your vision of justice lines up perfectly with sharia?

Go soak your head. I asked a question that still hasn't been answered by you or BriPat.
I agree that no young man should be "railroaded" by a rape allegation. If the current policies do that, they should be changed. If these changes allow colleges to go back to their previous shenanigans of hiding and covering up rape on campus in order to protect their reputations, that is another kettle of fish.

No changes in the law needed. You simply don't count on a college to handle crimes, you call the police. It's not hard to understand. Preserve evidence call the cops file a report. Done.

I agree the law should be involved. I do not necessarily agree that the college is helpless to expel a student unless a court of law finds him guilty of the crime, however. I have seen the other side of that issue.

 

[bripat9643]

Where does anything I said lead you to believe that I want to punish people on accusation alone? And you still haven't answered my question.

Yout think kicking someone out of school under the cloud of a rape accusation is not punishment?! (per your question)

Wtf is wrong with you?

Do you know how many acts of rape are not prosecuted? It's a lot more than you probably realize. Do you think it's ALRIGHT for young men to commit the occasional rape now and then (after all, boys will be boys, and the girls probably liked it)?

No, so lets go around throwing random men in prison because they can't prosecute all the rapists.

You are falsely accusing me of that stance. If you're going to champion "justice," you could at least be fair yourself.

Now you're whining about being falsely accused, eh? I find your stance on this issue deeply disturbing and you deeply disturbed.

Yes, utterly hypocritical.

 

[hazlnut]

Surprising how many USMB members are pro-campus rape.

Anything you guys want to come clean about?