Did Gorsuch and Kavanaugh lie?

[Darkwind]

Of course they said that.

If they said otherwise, there was a chance they would have not been confirmed.

Provide the proof that they said exactly that.

 

[BackAgain]

Show the transcript of their exact words.

Show it.

Can’t be done. For no jurist would answer a hypothetical asking how they would decide.

Thus, instead, they got asked tepid and meaningless questions touching on that area of law. Yes. It’s a precedent. Yep. It’s “settled law,” alright, whatever that term might actually mean.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

They were under oath. I hope that it's passed on that you have no problem lying under oath.

Let's look back over what the "Liberal" justices said about 2A during their hearings

 

[EvilCat Breath]

There is only a draft opinion. There are no concurring or dissenting opinions. We have no idea how anyone else feels.

 

[AMart]

It reflects on the legitimacy of the current court

If you have to outright lie to win votes for your confirmation, you are not a legitimate Justice

You can post the questions and answers of their hearings as opposed something from Collins. Why have you have not done that leftwinger.

 

[SweetSue92]

Collins was the swing vote on the Confirmation of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh

They assured her in public and private conversations that they honored the precedent of Roe v Wade

They LIED

Super invested in women being able to kill their own babies in the womb then right?

Why is that? Do we not have good birth control options?? Or even emergency contraception?

Oh wait

 

[Darkwind]

Can’t be done. For no jurist would answer a hypothetical asking how they would decide.

Thus, instead, they got asked tepid and meaningless questions touching on that area of law. Yes. It’s a precedent. Yep. It’s “settled law,” alright, whatever that term might actually mean.

Correct. They would no state something of that nature if they thought it would be recorded. It would prove they are unfit for the postion.

The point is that Collins is making up their pledge of not touching Roe out of whole cloth.

 

[bodecea]

You're a crybaby loser.

Deflecting to the poster rather than the thread topic?

 

[Pellinore]

There is only a draft opinion. There are no concurring or dissenting opinions. We have no idea how anyone else feels.

This is true. They haven't held any hearings, haven't heard any arguments, and certainly haven't voted. We don't even know how many, if any, of them have read it.

Plus, now that it's out, the public outrage may very well affect their decisions, especially when we're only a few months out from Election Day.

 

[Dragonlady]

Provide the proof that they said exactly that.

Kavenaugh:



Gorsuch:

 

[bodecea]

Let's look back over what the "Liberal" justices said about 2A during their hearings

Oh...the 2nd Amendment is being overturned, is it? Nice attempt at derailing this thread, tho.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Ha ha ha, what you and that nutwoman thinks Prospecting justices must tell you ahead of time what their position is on various issues then allegedly lie about it later yet that very thing doesn't count for Senators, Representatives, President, Vice President.

Of course it does. They get criticized for it as well. Such an idiotic point.

Especially idiotic when you consider those are elected officials who have to fight for re-election every 2-6 years, instead of being lifetime appointments.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

For no jurist would answer a hypothetical asking how they would decide.

Not what was asked. What was asked was their opinion of the precedent and whether they agree with it.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Did Gorsuch and Kavanaugh lie?

Of course they did – they’re conservatives, lying is what conservatives do.

Analysis: It looks like Susan Collins bet wrong on Brett Kavanaugh and Roe v. Wade

As Sen. Susan Collins was preparing to cast a deciding vote to confirm Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court in 2018, the Maine Republican insisted that he had told her directly that he considered Roe v. Wade settled law.

www.cnn.com

 

[Zincwarrior]

Yes, they lied.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, they lied.

Of course they lied. Their anti-abortion cred was the ONLY THING that got them considered for the job. Fooling the moderate GOP Senators (like Collins) was their mandate given to them by the people holding the keys to the golden gate to SCOTUS.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Of course it does. They get criticized for it as well. Such an idiotic point.

Especially idiotic when you consider those are elected officials who have to fight for re-election every 2-6 years, instead of being lifetime appointments.

Except you and many others keeps excusing their lies and corruption by repeatedly voting for them to stay in office.



There goes your argument.

I think 2 year term for Representatives in too short should be 4 year term then they spend less time running for reelection and more time pretending to represent their constituents while they bask in Washington D.C. for months.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

It reflects on the legitimacy of the current court

Correct.

And this blind partisan, conservative court is devoid of legitimacy, honesty, and integrity.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Except you and many others keeps excusing their lies and corruption by repeatedly voting for them to stay in office.

Another idiotic point from a whiny idiot. I vote in a basically binary choice each election.

I don't appoint judges for life.

So get your weak sauce out of here, it's worthless.

 

[rightwinger]

Ask a dumb question, you get an answer you deserve.

At their hearings, back in the day.

Question for the Justice nominee: Do you accept that Roe v. Wade has precedential value?

Nominee: Yes.

Question for the Justice nominee: Is it settled law in your view?

Nominee: Yes.

Now in 2022, those nominees hear a case concerning Roe v. Wade.

Should Roe v. Wade be overruled?

The now Justices say “yes.”

No lie. No contradiction. Yes; It did have precedential value. Yes; It had been “settled law” for almost 50 years. And yes; it should be overruled.

Bad law and bad decisions don’t deserve to be perpetuated just because they’ve survived for a few decades.

Looks like a lie to me