Did The Great Flood Really Happen?

[norwegen]

Jesus turned upside-down the expectation of Israel's Messiah. The traditional kingdom that the Israelites expected was the one that even the Baptist expected, who expressed disappointment with Jesus when he supposed that God’s dominion had not arrived in a timely enough fashion (Mt 11:2-3; Lk 7:20). Like his countrymen, the Baptist expected to see a political empire of his people with Jerusalem as its capital. Instead, he saw that Jesus had been spending his time preaching and healing while he himself was in jail (Mt 11:4-6; Lk 7:21-23), while Rome was still occupying Judea and Galilee, and while the temple and the Old Covenant remained in place.

The Messianic Age was replete with self-proclaimed messiahs, from Theudas and Judas (Antiquities 20.5.1 & 2; Acts 5:36-37) to Bar-Jesus (Acts 13:6-12) to Simon bar Kokhba. They all fit that warrior mold; they all saw themselves ensconced in history as mighty warriors and faithful servants who would restore the glory of their promised land.

Jesus is the only one who actually made a difference, as history bears out, and he preached new life not in temple or territory but in God.

Great post.. Jesus didn't fit the expectation at all.

Hence his differences with the Pharisees and their scribes and the elders and chief priests. Paul preached the same salvation (not in temple but in God). So the Jews had them both executed.

Paul was executed in Rome. You've lost me.

My mistake. The Jews wanted him dead, but neither Agrippa nor Festus could find fault with him.

The point is, they persecuted and tried Paul for the same reason they persecuted and tried Jesus. They expected, as you say, a warrior king, and not what these two men offered.

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Got a serious link to that crater, or did you make this up with dingbat?

Google it you lazy putz.

 

[Taz]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Got a serious link to that crater, or did you make this up with dingbat?

Google it you lazy putz.

It's off the southern tip of Madagascar and no way could it flood the Middle East like the bible says. Better luck next time, hobster.

 

[Meriweather]

The bible alone doesnt list every conversation and every deed.

True. The authors do not list every conversation and every deed. They had reasons for including (or not including) events. The question down through many ages has been, Why didn't Noah speak until well after the flood? Why was he silent? Some say Abraham is considered greater than Noah because Abraham did speak up when learning of the destruction that would come down on Sodom and Gomorrah.

Noah's silence has given rise, down through the ages, for quiet reflection among Rabbis. Why emphasize Noah's silence? The conclusion I like most goes back to the power of the word. Recall God's creation was the result of the spoken word. Ancient man believed in the power of words. For this reason Orthodox Jews take great care with the spoken word. An untruth or gossip is said to kill three people--the speaker, the listener, the one spoken about. In other words, evil came through the power of the spoken word. The account tells us that people had become very evil, and that evil had spread throughout the land. In contrast, Noah was silent; notice, he was considered to be a good man.

The flood is a story about new, or fresh, beginnings. And we hear Noah speak for the first time. He cursed his youngest son, Ham (the father of Canaan). Tribal warfare (and evil), not peace and good will, erupted once more--it had begun with the spoken word.

 

[alang1216]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Got a serious link to that crater, or did you make this up with dingbat?

Google it you lazy putz.

It's off the southern tip of Madagascar and no way could it flood the Middle East like the bible says. Better luck next time, hobster.

"some 5,000 years ago, a 3-mile-wide ball of rock and ice swung around the sun and smashed into the ocean off the coast of Madagascar. The ensuing cataclysm sent a series of 600-foot-high tsunamis crashing against the world’s coastlines and injected plumes of superheated water vapor and aerosol particulates into the atmosphere. Within hours, the infusion of heat and moisture blasted its way into jet streams and spawned super hurricanes that pummeled the other side of the planet. For about a week, material ejected into the atmosphere plunged the world into darkness. All told, up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making it the single most lethal event in history."

 

[ding]

You must be the dumbest motherfucker on this board, TN. Apparently you believe allegory means not true.

Allegory describes a truth but in an allegorical fashion. It's not a science book.

Allegories don't have to be true.

They're often interpretive.

For example, Plato's Allegory of the Cave is a philosophical construct. But that doesn't mean it's true.

Fair enough but the 1st 11 chapters of Genesis are about the history that all nations share.

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

Except on the memory of the survivors and their descendants...

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have been to places that had been destroyed by wars, natural disasters, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, fires, and devastating floods yet saw absolutely no evidence of it.

Is that so strange?

 

[alang1216]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

Except on the memory of the survivors and their descendants...

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have been to places that had been destroyed by wars, natural disasters, hurricanes, fires, and devastating floods yet saw absolutely no evidence of it.

Is that so strange?

You put too much faith in eyewitness testimony. Just because you saw no evidence of disaster (were you even looking for any?) doesn't mean there was none to the trained eye.

 

[ding]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

Jesus said it did.

I'm a Christian. I believe Him over today's "christian" teachers whom Christ said would be judged HARSHLY for teaching false doctrine

Then most Christians are fucked, as they created the "allegory" nonsense, to keep up with reality.

Sort of like most atheists are fucked because they read allegorical texts literally?

I would assume all atheists are fucked. Do some atheists get a "get out of hell" free card? Is it like the immigration lottery?
Or is that something else you just made up like the "allegories?"

Allegories explain things humans don't know or understand. Perhaps the tale of Adam and Eve is about the time period when humans stopped trusting o God's providence and began to cultivate crops and tend livestock.

Of course that took place 14,000 years earlier, but the story is still an explanation.

Allegories is something the religious cling to when science provers their hand-me-down, cherry picked fables written by desert savages, are proven wrong.

Ancient man knew 6,000 years before science that the universe was created, what we see was the result of stages and that man arose from that creation.

Of you weren't such a militant atheist who was intellectually dishonest, you'd have seen it too.

New Big Bang evidence supports Biblical creation, says Orthodox physicist

Counters nonreligious professor: The Genesis account of the formation of the heavens and the earth has nothing to do with science

www.timesofisrael.com

Genesis and the Big Bang: Both contain truth

In 2014, Pope Francis told a group of scientists that both the biblical stories of Genesis and the Big Bang theory are consistent with Catholic faith. Secular m

www.catholicsentinel.org

Creatio ex nihilo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why wasnt creation an allegory?

The creation account was allegory, dummy.

Then why are you posting links that support that "allegory?"
You make this so easy

You must be the dumbest motherfucker on this board, TN. Apparently you believe allegory means not true.

Allegory describes a truth but in an allegorical fashion. It's not a science book.

Something cant be history AND a figure of speech, derp.

It's almost like you have no idea what I am talking about when I say allegorical account. I think you make it complicated because you don't want to have to give credit to Genesis for anything. You just want to dismiss it because you have made up your mind that it's fairy tales.

Unfortunately for you though this is what Genesis captures in an allegorical fashion whether or not you want to give Genesis credit or not.

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

Except on the memory of the survivors and their descendants...

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have been to places that had been destroyed by wars, natural disasters, hurricanes, fires, and devastating floods yet saw absolutely no evidence of it.

Is that so strange?

You put too much faith in eyewitness testimony. Just because you saw no evidence of disaster (were you even looking for any?) doesn't mean there was none to the trained eye.

What does the trained eye see here?

 

[alang1216]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

Except on the memory of the survivors and their descendants...

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have been to places that had been destroyed by wars, natural disasters, hurricanes, fires, and devastating floods yet saw absolutely no evidence of it.

Is that so strange?

You put too much faith in eyewitness testimony. Just because you saw no evidence of disaster (were you even looking for any?) doesn't mean there was none to the trained eye.

What does the trained eye see here?

View attachment 472614

My eye sees a dissected plateau. Interesting that the plateau is so homogeneous it may be a single layer. Volcanic maybe?

 

[alang1216]

2. Everything he created is good

Really? How do you define good? Are viruses good? Is Satan good?

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Whatever it was, it left no global signature.

Except on the memory of the survivors and their descendants...

List of flood myths - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I have been to places that had been destroyed by wars, natural disasters, hurricanes, fires, and devastating floods yet saw absolutely no evidence of it.

Is that so strange?

You put too much faith in eyewitness testimony. Just because you saw no evidence of disaster (were you even looking for any?) doesn't mean there was none to the trained eye.

What does the trained eye see here?

View attachment 472614

My eye sees a dissected plateau. Interesting that the plateau is so homogeneous it may be a single layer. Volcanic maybe?

They are chevrons created by 600 foot high tsunamis that match other chevrons which when triangulated mark the sight of the burckle crater.

 

[DudleySmith]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

There are sea fossils high up on Mount Ararat; there are even sea fossils high up in the Himilayas. People back then surely noted them, and they had no real reason not to believe in a giant flood. In fact it would be stupid to claim they would have ignored such fossils. As far as they were concerned, there was solid proof of a 'world wide flood', and it's no accident they would also believe the Ark landed on Mount Ararat as well. They wouldn't really be able to figure out how long ago it took place with the knowledge they had then, though.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

An allegorical account of a flooding event that happened isn't exactly fiction.

It is fiction, because it didn't happen.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Got a serious link to that crater, or did you make this up with dingbat?

Google it you lazy putz.

It's off the southern tip of Madagascar and no way could it flood the Middle East like the bible says. Better luck next time, hobster.

"some 5,000 years ago, a 3-mile-wide ball of rock and ice swung around the sun and smashed into the ocean off the coast of Madagascar. The ensuing cataclysm sent a series of 600-foot-high tsunamis crashing against the world’s coastlines and injected plumes of superheated water vapor and aerosol particulates into the atmosphere. Within hours, the infusion of heat and moisture blasted its way into jet streams and spawned super hurricanes that pummeled the other side of the planet. For about a week, material ejected into the atmosphere plunged the world into darkness. All told, up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making it the single most lethal event in history."

Right, so ignorant, terrified, superstitious people, playing the iron age version of the "telephone game", warped a real event into a fictional myth.

 

[hobelim]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

I don't have any position on the theology of the Flood but, unless it was a supernatural event unlike any before or since, historically there was no global flood. There is no geological evidence for it and no natural forces that could cause such a global flood.

The burckle crater on the bottom of the indian ocean under 11,000 feet of water dated to the approximate time of gilgamesh is 25 times larger than meteor crater in arizona. The impact would have instantly vaporized billions of metric tons of water into the atmosphere causing a worldwide deluge that lasted for weeks, sweeping away every village,town or city built near rivers and streams and washes, worldwide, not to mention the immediate mega tsunamis that would have swept away all coastal civilizations.

According to scripture the next time the earth, including the atmosphere, will be destroyed is by fire, which would be the result of a similar impact on land or a larger one on the ocean again.

Got a serious link to that crater, or did you make this up with dingbat?

Google it you lazy putz.

It's off the southern tip of Madagascar and no way could it flood the Middle East like the bible says. Better luck next time, hobster.

"some 5,000 years ago, a 3-mile-wide ball of rock and ice swung around the sun and smashed into the ocean off the coast of Madagascar. The ensuing cataclysm sent a series of 600-foot-high tsunamis crashing against the world’s coastlines and injected plumes of superheated water vapor and aerosol particulates into the atmosphere. Within hours, the infusion of heat and moisture blasted its way into jet streams and spawned super hurricanes that pummeled the other side of the planet. For about a week, material ejected into the atmosphere plunged the world into darkness. All told, up to 80 percent of the world’s population may have perished, making it the single most lethal event in history."

Right, so ignorant, terrified, superstitious people, playing the iron age version of the "telephone game", warped a real event into a fictional myth.

Yes, to teach their children hard learned lessons from the past and to deliberately divert and curse their violent and irrational knuckle dragging barbarian enemies.

Speaking over the heads of the insane in a strange figurative language still works like a charm.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yes, to teach their children hard learned lessons from the past and to deliberately divert and curse their violent and irrational knuckle dragging barbarian enemies.

Nah, that's madeup horseshit.

 

[TNHarley]

Did the Great Flood really happen? - Living Faith - Home & Family - News - Catholic Online

Many Christians today argue the flood story is only a myth. It is a cautionary tale, not intended for literal interpretation. What's important, they say, is that we accept the lessons in the story rather than the story itself. There is merit to this approach. The story has no value if we ignore the lessons it teaches.

Jesus said it did.

I'm a Christian. I believe Him over today's "christian" teachers whom Christ said would be judged HARSHLY for teaching false doctrine

Then most Christians are fucked, as they created the "allegory" nonsense, to keep up with reality.

Sort of like most atheists are fucked because they read allegorical texts literally?

I would assume all atheists are fucked. Do some atheists get a "get out of hell" free card? Is it like the immigration lottery?
Or is that something else you just made up like the "allegories?"

Allegories explain things humans don't know or understand. Perhaps the tale of Adam and Eve is about the time period when humans stopped trusting o God's providence and began to cultivate crops and tend livestock.

Of course that took place 14,000 years earlier, but the story is still an explanation.

Allegories is something the religious cling to when science provers their hand-me-down, cherry picked fables written by desert savages, are proven wrong.

Ancient man knew 6,000 years before science that the universe was created, what we see was the result of stages and that man arose from that creation.

Of you weren't such a militant atheist who was intellectually dishonest, you'd have seen it too.

New Big Bang evidence supports Biblical creation, says Orthodox physicist

Counters nonreligious professor: The Genesis account of the formation of the heavens and the earth has nothing to do with science

www.timesofisrael.com

Genesis and the Big Bang: Both contain truth

In 2014, Pope Francis told a group of scientists that both the biblical stories of Genesis and the Big Bang theory are consistent with Catholic faith. Secular m

www.catholicsentinel.org

Creatio ex nihilo - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why wasnt creation an allegory?

The creation account was allegory, dummy.

Then why are you posting links that support that "allegory?"
You make this so easy

You must be the dumbest motherfucker on this board, TN. Apparently you believe allegory means not true.

Allegory describes a truth but in an allegorical fashion. It's not a science book.

Something cant be history AND a figure of speech, derp.

It's almost like you have no idea what I am talking about when I say allegorical account. I think you make it complicated because you don't want to have to give credit to Genesis for anything. You just want to dismiss it because you have made up your mind that it's fairy tales.

Unfortunately for you though this is what Genesis captures in an allegorical fashion whether or not you want to give Genesis credit or not.

1. God created existence
2. Everything he created is good
3. What he created was done in steps
4. Man is a product of that creation
5. Man is unlike any other creature in creation
6. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates
7. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful
8. Man was told to do as the original creator; to create for 6 days and then rest
9. Man knows right from wrong
10. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong
11. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success
12. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure
13. Pass it down to the next generation

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