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Discussion/Opinions on Winners of Wed DEM Debate

After hearing the Dem debate, all I could think of was Milton Friedman's axiom that open borders are incompatible with the welfare state, and the Dems are going gangbusters on both.
 
How many wars has President Trump gotten us into?

Oh yea, zero. I trust President Trump to keep us out of wars more than any shitbag globalist pig from the DNC.

“The brink of war”....lol.
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.
 
Same theme with all of them:
“If you elect me President you will get lots of free-shit from the government.”
“Minorities are victims of subliminal racism by whites.”
“Donald Trump is the center of all evil in the world.!”
“We need a green economy or were all gonna die!”:aargh:
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.
She touted her military service...so naturally no applause from Democrats. Did same thing to Jim Webb in 2008.
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.

Just to watch her square off against Rump alone would be worth the price of admission. A military vet versed in discipline and responsibility, against a schlemiel who's made a life work of avoiding responsibility in everything. We'd find out who the real patriots are wid a quickness.
 
"None of the 2020 candidates on stage tonight had a particularly inspiring plan to deal with a theoretical Majority Leader Mitch McConnell"
 
Tulse WHO?????

In a presidential debate with nine candidates and one Beto O’Rourke on stage, it’s hard to stand out. So tonight, Hawaii Rep. Tulsi Gabbard leaned on her credentials as a military veteran and her reputation for restrained foreign policy, taking a hard stance on the Trump administration that’s sure to stand out.

She said:

The president and his chicken hawk cabinet led us to the brink of war with Iran. I served in the war in Iraq at the height of the war in 2005, a war that took over 4,000 of my brothers and sisters in uniforms' lives. The American people need to understand this war would be far more devastating, far more costly than anything we saw in Iraq.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com

BTW a war with Iran would be settled in a few days with today's technology against a bunch of rock throwers!.....Do you actually think Russia and Red China would come to Iran's aid... if so you know little about world economics!
We would crush Iranian government and military, industrial complex.
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.
KLobuchar is going nowhere,,,,,,, Only ones trying to keep us in ME is the Pentagon...its good for lucrative promotions.....and if war with Iran occurs that's who will be behind it. I dont see it happening unless they really work at it
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.

Just to watch her square off against Rump alone would be worth the price of admission. A military vet versed in discipline and responsibility, against a schlemiel who's made a life work of avoiding responsibility in everything. We'd find out who the real patriots are wid a quickness.
She would be exposed as the amateur she is.
 
"Trump pleased many of his top campaign officials when he showed a rare characteristic during the Democratic debate — restraint on Twitter"
 
"None of the 2020 candidates on stage tonight had a particularly inspiring plan to deal with a theoretical Majority Leader Mitch McConnell"
Didnt you listen to Warrens fight team fight speech at the end?

Bisquick doesn't listen to anything. He just hunts down random unattributed quotes to facilitate and endless diarrhea of ME ME ME I WANT ATTENTION posts. Give him what he most fears -- being ignored.
 
"None of the 2020 candidates on stage tonight had a particularly inspiring plan to deal with a theoretical Majority Leader Mitch McConnell"
Didnt you listen to Warrens fight team fight speech at the end?

Bisquick doesn't listen to anything. He just hunts down random unattributed quotes to facilitate and endless diarrhea of ME ME ME I WANT ATTENTION posts. Give him what he most fears -- being ignored.
She didnt really have a plan …...but she thought she did
 
"None of the 2020 candidates on stage tonight had a particularly inspiring plan to deal with a theoretical Majority Leader Mitch McConnell"
Didnt you listen to Warrens fight team fight speech at the end?

Bisquick doesn't listen to anything. He just hunts down random unattributed quotes to facilitate and endless diarrhea of ME ME ME I WANT ATTENTION posts. Give him what he most fears -- being ignored.
She didnt really have a plan …...but she thought she did

Why do you call him "she"?
 
The president and his chicken hawk cabinet led us to the brink of war with Iran. I served in the war in Iraq at the height of the war in 2005, a war that took over 4,000 of my brothers and sisters in uniforms' lives. The American people need to understand this war would be far more devastating, far more costly than anything we saw in Iraq.

THAT is why Gabbard would be the ONLY leftist I would vote for. Her social stances won't pass but I agree with her medicaid for all,free college and foreign aid stances.
 
I watched the debate. I saw two clear winners. Most were just there to argue and fight.

Amy Klobuchar, Tulsi Gabbard showed the best showing.

Klobuchar actually sounded the best. She didn't get into the petty fights, expressed herself well and stayed on point. I didn't agree with everything she said but I did agree with enough that I could live with her as a President. Here problem is Name Recognition. But if she does win the nomination I don't think that becomes a problem. She does come from a predominant Red area of the Nation and has won in areas that Trump has carried with over 20 points. She will carry Ohio, Wisconsin, Michican and a few other states that pushed Trump over the top. She becomes a real problem child for Trump. The good news is, she carries absolutely no excess baggage and is not an insider.

Gabbard would make the best Commander in Chief. She has a ton of combat experience and is currently a Major in the National Guard. And she isn't that far off Klobuchar on issues.

Both would be good for the Border issues. Much of what Trump is now trying to claim as his own ideas comes from Klobuchar anyway and others like her. I know, you rightwingers only see the "Wall" but it's gotten to the point where the original talking points of the Democrats have become important as well. The wall has taken a back seat to the humanitarian crisis. And the things that needs to be done to get that taken care of needs to have a President that is sitting in the driver seat to get it done without blaming others.

Both agree the economy can be better. The Tax brackets are broken. Let's just leave it there.

Both are hard to shake up. And if they don't play the "Trump" game and stay on point, Trump is in serious trouble when he goes into his "Game". I've said it before, it's not what Trump says or does that determines whether he will be reelected or not but what the person that is running against him says or does that determines the outcome.

Hate to say it, but all the others were just saying the same crap over and over. I'm tired of hearing it.
She comes from Blue state that hasn't voted red in years whose favorite sons do poorly on the political stage, See Walter Mondale and Hubie

Tulsi Gabbard presented herself well. Outside of the first question, she stayed on point, didn't get involved in the petty BS most of the others did. Trump will have a real problem shaking her up. She is WAY outside if America is looking for a true outsider. She isn't even a Hawaiian, She Samoan. And it didn't hurt Obama too bad to be born in Hawaii too bad either. 2020 can't really be predicted at this point.

Just to watch her square off against Rump alone would be worth the price of admission. A military vet versed in discipline and responsibility, against a schlemiel who's made a life work of avoiding responsibility in everything. We'd find out who the real patriots are wid a quickness.
She would be exposed as the amateur she is.
So she served in the fucking Hawaiian National Guard? Big deal. She is still a pro-big government liberal. Can’t fool American people. We have Trump in our corner.
 

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