Disney scraps plans for new Florida campus, mass employee relocation amid DeSantis feud

[WorldWatcher]

This is going to be interesting to continue to watch.

Disney kept a fairly low profile in the months since the initial blow up last year.

We find they moved quietly behind the scenes (but still in compliance with public law) to enter into contracts with the old Reedy Creek board before the DeSantis handpicked board was installed.

Then we find that Disney was biding their time and letting state legislators and Governor DeSantis make plenty of public statements on the record regarding why Disney was targeted for retribution before filing their federal law suit.

Now they fire a show across the bow in regards to a canceling a new $1 Billion dollar campus, which would have employed 2,000 people with an average salary of $120,000 (that $240,000,000 income that will now not exist in central Florida).
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Disney has shown themselves to be very savvy in their actions and looks like they have a better crop of lawyers than those running Florida.

Disney isn't going to go anywhere and the cost and logistics of "moving" Disney World aren't worth it.

What I predict is that over the next couple of years Disney will have just bought the legislature and governor by quietly funding candidates that are less antagonistic than the current crop.

WW

 

[Kondor3]

Depends what you mean by "blink"...

Florida will stand rock-steady in this matter and will not budge in any significant way.

Disney will either concede and continue to operate in Florida, or go to the frightful expense (and worse weather) of pulling-up stakes and rebooting elsewhere.

The State of Florida has vastly deeper pockets than Disney and can either (a) wait them out or (b) blow them off after a period of modestly painful adjustment.

Disney has become a terribly overpriced attraction and other amusement and escapism providers are probably salivating at the prospect of a Disney vacuum.

If you're a State with the best average Winter Weather in the country your tourism dollars are pretty much guaranteed when taking-in the long-term view.

 

[Kondor3]

Really ? Winter without snow isn’t winter.

Tell that to the family living "up north" who has the money to burn and is in mid-winter and sick-to-death of the cold and ready to vacation in a warm spot.

Florida suffers in the summertime from serious heat and oppressive humidity but it's one of only a handful that provides a Warm Winter vacation spot.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Turns out, the story is a lie……..the other 13,000 jobs are still scheduled….

He noted that $17 billion was still earmarked for construction at Disney World over the next decade — growth that would create an estimated 13,000 jobs.
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So this was a project that appeared dead in the water unrelated to DeSantis, would not create new jobs for Floridians (instead importing 2,000 Californians), and would cost Florida almost $600 million in tax incentives to Disney. Sounds like Disney scrapping the deal was both unrelated to DeSantis and best for all involved.

Disney CEO Bob Iger Kills Lake Nona Project He Always Hated, Media Blames DeSantis

The media headlines ignore that Disney simultaneously announced it still plans to invest $17 Billion and create 13,000 new jobs In Florida

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So, the democrat party controlled media lies again……and idiots like you keep believing them…..

Actually, this is what he said about the 17B and 13,000 jobs.....“I hope we’re able to,”

Seems he put the ball back in DeSantis' court.

 

[Kondor3]

Really ? Whom ? Some far right Christian group ? No ligit business will touch this opportunity. Maybe you’d like more “Vegas” casinos with more gambling and prostitution to move in. That’s should go along with the far right Christian hypocrites.

Oh, my, my, my... look at the Christian-Hating Leftist... no, Leftie... it's about keeping the perverse sexual deviants of LGBTQ away from innocent little kids.

 

[22lcidw]

Florida will stand rock-steady in this matter and will not budge in any significant way.

Disney will either concede and continue to operate in Florida, or go to the frightful expense (and worse weather) of pulling-up stakes and rebooting elsewhere.

The State of Florida has vastly deeper pockets than Disney and can either (a) wait them out or (b) blow them off after a period of modestly painful adjustment.

Disney has become a terribly overpriced attraction and other amusement and escapism providers are probably salivating at the prospect of a Disney vacuum.

If you're a State with the best average Winter Weather in the country your tourism dollars are pretty much guaranteed when taking-in the long-term view.

They cannot leave. The infrastructure they have built up is incredible. The traffic issues in that area is nasty. A region with still having large swaths of rural land and traffic patterns maddening in the local road system. Wide streets that look like easy egress and where if you sit at a light it seems like five minutes. Disney has a responsibility to make it easier even if they are the reason it is built up. They have had a massive lower tax existence since it was incorporated in the 1960's and the price, they charge guests is huge for what the traffic patterns of visitors and residents must endure.

 

[candycorn]

Florida will stand rock-steady in this matter and will not budge in any significant way.

Disney will either concede and continue to operate in Florida, or go to the frightful expense (and worse weather) of pulling-up stakes and rebooting elsewhere.

The State of Florida has vastly deeper pockets than Disney and can either (a) wait them out or (b) blow them off after a period of modestly painful adjustment.

Disney has become a terribly overpriced attraction and other amusement and escapism providers are probably salivating at the prospect of a Disney vacuum.

If you're a State with the best average Winter Weather in the country your tourism dollars are pretty much guaranteed when taking-in the long-term view.

I agree they'll continue to operate in Florida. Expand in any meaningful way? No.

 

[Kondor3]

They cannot leave. The infrastructure they have built up is incredible. The traffic issues in that area is nasty. A region with still having large swaths of rural land and traffic patterns maddening in the local road system. Wide streets that look like easy egress and where if you sit at a light it seems like five minutes. Disney has a responsibility to make it easier even if they are the reason it is built up. They have had a massive lower tax existence since it was incorporated in the 1960's and the price, they charge guests is huge for what the traffic patterns of visitors and residents must endure.

Yep. Disney has the far-weaker hand. Florida has vastly deeper pockets. Disney needs Florida FAR more than Florida needs Disney.

 

[Kondor3]

I agree they'll continue to operate in Florida. Expand in any meaningful way? No.

They'll remain "static" for a while... until cooler heads prevail at Disney... and then they'll quietly "cave", make nice with Florida, then move forward again.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Florida will stand rock-steady in this matter and will not budge in any significant way.

Disney will either concede and continue to operate in Florida, or go to the frightful expense (and worse weather) of pulling-up stakes and rebooting elsewhere.

The State of Florida has vastly deeper pockets than Disney and can either (a) wait them out or (b) blow them off after a period of modestly painful adjustment.

Disney has become a terribly overpriced attraction and other amusement and escapism providers are probably salivating at the prospect of a Disney vacuum.

If you're a State with the best average Winter Weather in the country your tourism dollars are pretty much guaranteed when taking-in the long-term view.

DeSantis will not be the governor forever.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Yep. Disney has the far-weaker hand. Florida has vastly deeper pockets. Disney needs Florida FAR more than Florida needs Disney.

Florida's vastly deeper pockets are in large part due to Disney.

 

[Kondor3]

That is a lot of words just to say "yep, we support the Govt attacking an entity for exercising their 1st amendment rights".

Entertainment companies who step outside their lane and into politics do so at their own risk... mouthing-off to a State government has consequences.

Disney was free to criticize... Florida was free to spank them by revoking long-standing tax and governance accommodations... Disney got their "say".

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Entertainment companies who step outside their lane and into politics do so at their own risk... mouthing-off to a State government has consequences.

Disney was free to criticize... Florida was free to spank them by revoking long-standing tax and governance accommodations... Disney got their "say".

I can at least appreciate that you all no longer even try to hide behind the façade of conservatism, that you can openly come out and say "yep, we support the Govt attacking an entity for exercising their 1st amendment rights".

 

[Kondor3]

Florida's vastly deeper pockets are in large part due to Disney.

The comparison of pocket-size between the two tells the longer-term story.

Disney needs Florida far more than Florida needs Disney.

People were flocking to Florida in winter-time long before Disney showed up and will still be flocking to Florida in winter long after Disney crumbles into dust.

The LibProg idiots at Disney forgot about those things (pockets, durability), stepped far outside their lane, shot off their mouths, and got spanked for it.

A hilarious and most excellent tale of Idiot Woke-ism gone sour.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The comparison of pocket-size between the two tells the longer-term story.

Disney needs Florida far more than Florida needs Disney.

People were flocking to Florida in winter-time long before Disney showed up and will still be flocking to Florida in winter long after Disney crumbles into dust.

Disney gives people a reason to come to Florida in the summer.

 

[22lcidw]

Yep. Disney has the far-weaker hand. Florida has vastly deeper pockets. Disney needs Florida FAR more than Florida needs Disney.

All Disney needs to do is be less woke. The local road system needs to be massively improved even if they have put money into it. in rural and semi-rural areas there is only so much time to do these things before they end up like California Disney where there are no options. For Florida real infrastructure improvements in roads and electricity and water runoff and anything needed if the worst happens like in hurricanes is smart and prudent. The Governor is improving some major highways in parts.

 

[candycorn]

The comparison of pocket-size between the two tells the longer-term story.

Disney needs Florida far more than Florida needs Disney.

People were flocking to Florida in winter-time long before Disney showed up and will still be flocking to Florida in winter long after Disney crumbles into dust.

The LibProg idiots at Disney forgot about those things (pockets, durability), stepped far outside their lane, shot off their mouths, and got spanked for it.

A hilarious and most excellent tale of Idiot Woke-ism gone sour.

Well, the most recent expansion that was planned isn't going through. Not exactly a win for Florida since it means those jobs are not coming there. I'm sure you'll try to spin it as some sort of win but the facts don't support the analysis.

 

[Kondor3]

Disney gives people a reason to come to Florida in the summer.

People were flocking to Florida long before Disney came along.

People will still be flocking to Florida long after Disney is only a vague and distant memory.

Never mind that Florida has tremendous drawing power in the wintertime beyond the confines of the Disney Amusement Park properties.

Never mind that Disney will lose its shirt if it leaves Florida.

Never mind that if Disney DOES ever leave that others will rush in to fill the vacuum left behind the the financially-suicidal Woke-ists who pull the plug.

Never mind that Disney stockholders are almost certainly going to mutiny against management in order to return Disney to a profitable partnership role.

It's not a question of IF Disney will blink first.

After a round or two of defiance and management face-saving...

It's merely a question of WHEN Disney is going to blink.

 

[easyt65]

And now its Disney's turn. 2,000 jobs by by.

Disney scraps plans for new Florida campus, mass employee relocation amid DeSantis feud

Disney and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis are entangled in a bitter feud centered in part around the company's special district and development plans.

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Disney scraps plans for new Florida campus, mass employee relocation amid DeSantis feud​

PUBLISHED THU, MAY 18 2023 2:15 PM EDTUPDATED 7 MIN AGO

Sarah Whitten
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KEY POINTS

• Disney will no longer be moving forward with the construction of its Lake Nona, Florida, employee campus.
• The company will also no longer be requiring California-based employees to relocate.
• The announcement comes amid a bitter feud between the company and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis centered in part around the company's special district and development plans.

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Cinderella Castle in Walt Disney World.
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Disney has abandoned plans to open up a new employee campus in Lake Nona, Florida, amid rising tensions with the state's governor.
Citing "changing business conditions" and the return of CEO Bob Iger, Josh D'Amaro, chairman of Disney's parks, experiences and products division, penned a memo to employees Thursday, announcing that the company will not move forward with construction of the campus and will no longer be asking more than 2,000 California-based employees to relocate to Florida.

No Disney Pedo Campus? What a shame...

 

[Harpy Eagle]

People were flocking to Florida long before Disney came along.

People will still be flocking to Florida long after Disney is only a vague and distant memory.

Never mind that Florida has tremendous drawing power in the wintertime beyond the confines of the Disney Amusement Park properties.

Never mind that Disney will lose its shirt if it leaves Florida.

Never mind that if Disney DOES ever leave that others will rush in to fill the vacuum left behind the the financially-suicidal Woke-ists who pull the plug.

It's not a question of IF Disney will blink first.

After a round or two of defiance and management face-saving...

It's merely a question of WHEN Disney is going to blink.

Disney does not need to blink, they just need to outlast the current dictator governor of the state.