No chance of that. Only the left wants to violate people's civil liberties for fun.Soon it isn't just going to be "the Left".
The rest of America values civil liberties.
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No chance of that. Only the left wants to violate people's civil liberties for fun.Soon it isn't just going to be "the Left".
You need to learn where murders take place in this country.The Constitution is NOT a suicide pact.
Right now the 2A is being leveraged well beyond it's rational original intent. America has the highest gun ownership rate of any developed nation on earth and we have along with it the highest gun homicide rate.
At some point we need to re-equilibrate our "rights" when countless thousands die every year.
The Constitution was NOT written by God in stone. It has, built into it, the ability to change or alter its content.
THAT'S the true power of the Constitution.
We don;t need a debate with you foreigners.But to have a debate, you have to get beyond the Rinse, Wash, Repeat statements. So forget the 2A, we all know it's there, it's discussing the topic beyond that. I would say gun nuts won't/don't because they know their argument is weak to piss poor.
Yes you are. You are a brit royal ass kisser and you're whining about the laws in the US.I'm not interested in other countries. Your argument is that a major reason for the 2nd Amendment was having firearms for self defence, yet you now claim the bulk of gun incidents are down to suicides. Now you stated that thicko, you blew your own balls off with that. I've told you all along, the self defence argument was just a guise, and you've confirmed it. So if you want to call anyone dumb, then start with yourself, dummy.
So allowing everyone to freely obtain a gun without infringing their rights for self defence is an utter load of bollox, and you've just confirmed it.
Not everyone can legally own a gunI'm not interested in other countries. Your argument is that a major reason for the 2nd Amendment was having firearms for self defence, yet you now claim the bulk of gun incidents are down to suicides. Now you stated that thicko, you blew your own balls off with that. I've told you all along, the self defence argument was just a guise, and you've confirmed it. So if you want to call anyone dumb, then start with yourself, dummy.
So allowing everyone to freely obtain a gun without infringing their rights for self defence is an utter load of bollox, and you've just confirmed it.
So because some people will break the law then we should remove the rights of people who donm;t break the law.Then you missed the point of my post. I will try to make it clearer for you.
This is a probabilistic game. If you increase the number of legal guns owned by perfectly good people you increase the probability that there will be guns that are stolen or otherwise make it into the hands of the bad people.
That's just basic statistics. Thefts happen, even good people sell guns to people who may not be as good.
In reality no one is going to ask you to give up all your guns (except maybe Jesus, but you'd have to take that up with Him), but you may be asked to either have limited guns or have more oversight of you guns for the general public safety.
Cookies are good, but you can't make your entire diet cookies. Guns have a value but you can't flood your population with guns and expect the outcome to be great.
The need you people have for sexualizing guns is more telling of your own perversity.You gun fetishists are the loudest whiners imaginable. Worse that toddlers who didn't get as many sprinkles on their ice cream as they wanted.
YOU WON! You have as many guns as you want! You guys have turned America into the leading first world gun ownership capital!
STOP BEING SORE WINNERS!
You guys are the MOST PITIFUL martyrs I've seen. And my mom was a world-class martyr, so I've seen the master at work. You guys STILL WIN THE TITLE.
Mostly Black on Black crime in the Democrat controlled big city shitholes. Street thugs, gangs and druggies mostly.America has the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world. So your theory fails at the outset.
So because some people will break the law then we should remove the rights of people who donm;t break the law.
Both the recent Sacramento and South Carolina "mass shootings" were Black on Black created gang shootings.
The need you people have for sexualizing guns is more telling of your own perversity.
A gun is nothing but a tool and it so happens to be the single best tool for self defense.
That is a meaningless point.Interestingly racist idea.
That wasn't my point at all. My point is more legal guns means a higher probability that those legal guns will make it into hands of people who want to do illegal things.
More legal guns means higher probability of gun theft.
More legal guns means higher probability of uncontrolled sales/illegal sales
Let's try another example.
Let's say that doctors started prescribing say, an opiod painkiller, at EXTREMELY HIGH RATES. Suddenly the probability of people getting ahold of this opiod illegally increases because of the chance of theft or illegal sales of the opiod.
Does that make sense?
No it's a perversion just like the penis comparisons anti gunners like to use.No, it's just a means of adding insult to the posts.
It IS a tool. But when people feel that they need to show off their rights by carrying the tool into a Starbucks while buying a coffee you know to that person it is now a TOY.
And that's the real problem.
In some states it is illegal to open carry. In others it's not. If people don't like it they can petition their politicians for change.
That is a meaningless point.
It's not the drug that is the problem it is the Doctors overprescribing it that is the problem.
How many is a lot?Again, you seem to miss the point. The gun is a TOOL but a lot of gun enthusiasts treat them like toys to show off their manhood facade. And that's when we run into trouble. Why America has a "gun problem".
No once again that had nothing to do with the opiate as a drug with legitimate uses and more to do with the behavior of a rather small number of doctors who got away with overprescribing because of lack of oversight or because of hospital administrators who took big money from Pharma companiesWell, the opiod crisis which is a direct analogue would indicate otherwise.
It's not the gun that's the problem, it's Americans overprescribing themselves a need for more guns that is the problem.
How many is a lot?
We do not gave a gun problem.
The vast majority of people who own guns legally will never commit a crime never mind murder. People who concealed carry permits are some of the most law abiding people in the country.
However many it takes to wind up with the highest rate of gun ownership and gun homicides in the developed world. Often by nearly an order of magnitude.
OK, then a gun homicide problem. We have the highest per capita rate of gun homicides of any developed first world nation by a HUGE margin.
And we come back around to the original point I made about probabilities.