Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

[Pumpkin Row]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

 

[Nia88]

Its interesting that republicans assume that one who doesn't have insurance is unemployed. There are lots of employed people who don't have insurance . Even if your job offers insurance, it sometimes times is crap.

 

[Billy000]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

 

[Chuz Life]

Its interesting that republicans assume that one who doesn't have insurance is unemployed. There are lots of employed people who don't have insurance . Even if your job offers insurance, it sometimes times is crap.

Can you show me where it is - in the Constitution- that it is the responsibility of the Federal fucking government to fix that problem?

 

[Norman]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

This is so painfully dumb... My eyes bleed when I read it.

Why not just accept the fact that you made a really stupid analogy? Roads are mostly and sometimes more than paid by gas taxes and taxes that only those who own cars pay. In fact, those who own cars will usually pay more than their share of taxes, which usually end up being funneled to all the usual regressive causes.

Even if this wasn't so I have no idea what you are getting at? Privatize the roads? I have no problem with that, but it's completely outside the topic which was HEALTH CARE, moron.

Government programs are always inefficient as hell.

 

[Crixus]

We know they hate ACA and the idea of single payer. Does that mean they think our healthcare system was decent before ACA? Are they that stupid? It was definitely a complete joke prior to ACA. It's not like they could point to any objective facts to say otherwise. It makes me wonder what their philosophy is.

Frankly, I don't think they are smart enough to understand healthcare policy, but it would be adorable if they think they have an idea of what's best.

Yes it was aside from costing allot, but half Black Jesus made it more fucked up then a football bat. But yea, just dump it I say.

 

[Nia88]

Its interesting that republicans assume that one who doesn't have insurance is unemployed. There are lots of employed people who don't have insurance . Even if your job offers insurance, it sometimes times is crap.

Can you show me where it is - in the Constitution- that it is the responsibility of the Federal fucking government to fix that problem?

Cooperations and insurance companies have Proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted to provide affordable healthcare to people. So what else are people suppose to do? Let people die?

People are literally selling their houses just so they can get treatment.

We rank low on the healthcare scale. Our healthcare is in line with third world nations.

Every advanced country has universal healthcare.

Are you cool with us being in the same boat as a third world nation when it comes to healthcare?

 

[eagle7_31]

Of course they do.

Cut taxes for the wealthy and all else will fall into place.

You mean like liberals to raise taxes and all will fall into place? Try again genius.

 

[Billy000]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

This is so painfully dumb... My eyes bleed when I read it.

Why not just accept the fact that you made a really stupid analogy? Roads are mostly and sometimes more than paid by gas taxes. In fact, those who own cars will usually pay more than their share of taxes to all the usual regressive causes.

Even if this wasn't so I have no idea what you are getting at? Privatize the roads? I have no problem with that, but it's completely outside the topic which was HEALTH CARE, moron.

lol hold on, so you are unaware of the many examples of infrastructure? It goes well beyond triads. Also, even if it were all paid for with gas taxes, you are still - you know - paying taxes.

 

[Chuz Life]

Its interesting that republicans assume that one who doesn't have insurance is unemployed. There are lots of employed people who don't have insurance . Even if your job offers insurance, it sometimes times is crap.

Can you show me where it is - in the Constitution- that it is the responsibility of the Federal fucking government to fix that problem?

Cooperations and insurance companies have Proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted to provide affordable healthcare to people. So what else are people suppose to do? Let people die?

People are literally selling their houses just so they can get treatment.

We rank low on the healthcare scale. Our healthcare is in line with third world nations.

Every advanced country has universal healthcare.

Are you cool with us being in the same boat as a third world nation when it comes to healthcare?

You are dodging my question.

 

[Norman]

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

This is so painfully dumb... My eyes bleed when I read it.

Why not just accept the fact that you made a really stupid analogy? Roads are mostly and sometimes more than paid by gas taxes. In fact, those who own cars will usually pay more than their share of taxes to all the usual regressive causes.

Even if this wasn't so I have no idea what you are getting at? Privatize the roads? I have no problem with that, but it's completely outside the topic which was HEALTH CARE, moron.

lol hold on, so you are unaware of the many examples of infrastructure? It goes well beyond triads. Also, even if it were all paid for with gas taxes, you are still - you know - paying taxes.

You keep getting more and more retarded every post. Your whole argument was that car owners do not pay for the roads and thus get a "free ride" with other people's money - that is false. The rest of the stuff is irrelevant, often paid by the customers and not supported by "republicans" anyway.

Only thing left is accepting that you were full of shit, and that no free shit of any kind should be provided for you, or any other able-bodied entitled idiot, at other's expense.

 

[Billy000]

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

This is so painfully dumb... My eyes bleed when I read it.

Why not just accept the fact that you made a really stupid analogy? Roads are mostly and sometimes more than paid by gas taxes. In fact, those who own cars will usually pay more than their share of taxes to all the usual regressive causes.

Even if this wasn't so I have no idea what you are getting at? Privatize the roads? I have no problem with that, but it's completely outside the topic which was HEALTH CARE, moron.

lol hold on, so you are unaware of the many examples of infrastructure? It goes well beyond triads. Also, even if it were all paid for with gas taxes, you are still - you know - paying taxes.

You keep getting more and more retarded every post. Your whole argument was that car owners do not pay for the roads and thus get a "free ride" with other people's money - that is false.

Only thing left is accepting that you were full of shit, and that no free shit of any kind should be provided for you, or any able-bodied American.

This isn't hard to grasp. Your yearly tax contribution is a tiny faction of the overall budget of infrastructure that's already underfunded. In addition, a good portion of your revenue doesn't go to government services you benefit from. That means someone else is paying for your shit. A single payer healthcare system works the SAME way. We're just adding another program to the budget. And yeah, to pay for it, everyone's taxes across the board would go up, but that wouid replace private insurance premiums. It could also be paid for by cutting our ridiculous defense budget that you repubs love so much.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

I suppose I should rephrase my first point. Infrastructure is the physical and organizational structures needed for society. In other words, roads, courthouses, military, etc. What you're mentioning as 'the right' being okay with using are defined as infrastructure. These are not things that are used by individuals, but by absolutely everyone. Defining healthcare or food stamps as the same thing because tax dollars would fund them is drawing a false parallel, because those are things people buy for themselves, and are not considered infrastructure, because they are neither a physical or organizational structure needed for society.

Thank you for linking a source.

You also didn't answer my question, so I'll try phrasing it another way. When do you think one person is entitled to another's money?

 

[Norman]

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

This is so painfully dumb... My eyes bleed when I read it.

Why not just accept the fact that you made a really stupid analogy? Roads are mostly and sometimes more than paid by gas taxes. In fact, those who own cars will usually pay more than their share of taxes to all the usual regressive causes.

Even if this wasn't so I have no idea what you are getting at? Privatize the roads? I have no problem with that, but it's completely outside the topic which was HEALTH CARE, moron.

lol hold on, so you are unaware of the many examples of infrastructure? It goes well beyond triads. Also, even if it were all paid for with gas taxes, you are still - you know - paying taxes.

You keep getting more and more retarded every post. Your whole argument was that car owners do not pay for the roads and thus get a "free ride" with other people's money - that is false.

Only thing left is accepting that you were full of shit, and that no free shit of any kind should be provided for you, or any able-bodied American.

This isn't hard to grasp. Your yearly tax contribution is a tiny faction of the overall budget of infrastructure that's already underfunded. In addition, a good portion of your revenue doesn't go to government services you benefit from. That means someone else is paying for your shit. A single payer healthcare system works the SAME way. We're just adding another program to the budget. And yeah, to pay for it, everyone's taxes across the board would go up, but that wouid replace private insurance premiums. It could also be paid for by cutting our ridiculous defense budget that you repubs love so much.

Please, take an IQ test, I bet the reading you would get is "not pass".

Of course my car tax contribution isn't supposed to pay for EVERYONE'S roads. It only pays for MY SHARE of the bill. Your single payer health care on the other hand, is supposed to take my premiums and pay the bill of others with it, especially profit hungry government employees.

You must have fluked math... at first grade.

 

[TheDude]

We know they hate ACA and the idea of single payer. Does that mean they think our healthcare system was decent before ACA? Are they that stupid? It was definitely a complete joke prior to ACA. It's not like they could point to any objective facts to say otherwise. It makes me wonder what their philosophy is.

Frankly, I don't think they are smart enough to understand healthcare policy, but it would be adorable if they think they have an idea of what's best.

I do I do.

Fair market value & borders between states are open, as are approved foreign pharmaceuticals. If a person wants birth control and that, then it must be factored into their premium. The only people who get free limited healthcare are the poor's children, elderly and truly disabled (excludes obesity). If a deadbeat is injured, cancer, whatever, they get the help, part of which must be paid back. I suspect this is what they're trying to push, but of course Democrats won't play unless there's lots of free stuff on someone else's dime, because money grows on trees and cost isn't calculated into benefit, cuz they so smart.

 

[Si modo]

Let it fall flat on its face. The Dems own it. Then, we do it right like it should have been done in the first place.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No, but libertarians do.


1. end the mandate to buy overpriced monopoly health insurance
2. expand medical savings account
3 repeal W's socialization of Senior Drugs
4. Dramatically cut/hack/gut MediCare and MedicAid
5. make individuals accountable for their own health
6. cover only catastrophic injury for uninsured
7 force the medical profession to respond to a FREE MARKET by CUTTING PRICES on BASIC SERVICES or lose business/money
8. new law - anyone busted for filing a deliberately false health care claim to Uncle Sam gets the firing squad and total asset forfeiture

You just came up with about 80% of Nationalized Heath care. The problem with the ACA, it's about 50%. The Genie is out of the bottle now and we will never be able to get it back in the bottle. Just Nationalize it and get it done with. But that won't happen as long as the Insurance companies put in millions into their trained little monkeys in Washington.

 

[BluesLegend]

Dem's are not giving people government handout health insurance, Dem's are buying votes with your money. Same old Dem's vote for us we'll take other peoples money and give it to you in exchange for your vote.

 

[Avatar4321]

The solution to health care is get the hell out of our healthcare.

 

[Billy000]

Do republican voters even have a solution to healthcare?

Pay for your own healthcare and stop mooching off me. I'm also not interested in paying for your food, your housing, your toilet paper, toothpaste, booze, drugs, your electric bill, or any of your other bills. Get a job, get two jobs, don't be a sponge.

Other people already pay for your public roads, emergency services, and the people who fight your wars for you. Under single payer, everyone would pay for taxes for it like any other government service.

Think about how many government services you already take advantage for. Your tax contribution alone is a tiny fraction of what's spent per year on those programs. This amounts to trillions per year. Meanwhile, you complain about a program like food stamps that costs 60 billion per year. By the way, the large majority of people on food stamps are children. The disabled and veterans also benefit from that program. Should we just say "fuck you" to all those people?

Infrastructure, that's a false parallel you're drawing. The government typically takes care of infrastructure, which healthcare is not. Food Stamps also is not infrastructure, the difference here is that what the government is doing when implementing these programs is redistributing people's wealth to others, who it decided need it more.

I'd like you to show me evidence of children being the majority on Food Stamps.

Can you explain to me how not having a thing, entitles a person to someone else's money paying for that thing? What do you think entitles a person to another's hard earned money?

Also, hey Billy, it's really nice to see you<3

It's not a false parallel as to the point I was trying to make. Conservatives don't want to pay for other people's healthcare, but they are already beneficiaries of other people's tax revenue. The socialist aspect of single payer wouid be no different than the broad government programs we already have such as infrastructure.

What I said about children being the most on food stamps was inaccurate. What i meant to say is that most people on food stamps are dependents.

This article breaks it down:

Who Uses Food Stamps? Millions of Children - NBC News

45% of those on food stamps are children.
An additional 20% are those who are disabled and those over 60 years old.

And it's good to hear from you too Pumpkin!

I suppose I should rephrase my first point. Infrastructure is the physical and organizational structures needed for society. In other words, roads, courthouses, military, etc. What you're mentioning as 'the right' being okay with using are defined as infrastructure. These are not things that are used by individuals, but by absolutely everyone. Defining healthcare or food stamps as the same thing because tax dollars would fund them is drawing a false parallel, because those are things people buy for themselves, and are not considered infrastructure, because they are neither a physical or organizational structure needed for society.

Thank you for linking a source.

You also didn't answer my question, so I'll try phrasing it another way. When do you think one person is entitled to another's money?

Yes, not everyone benefits from food stamps, but everyone would benefit from single payer. I was defending food stamps as a separate issue because of most of the people who benefit from it. I was drawing a connection between single payer to infrastructure because if we had a single payer system, everyone would benefit from it like we do with our infrastructure system. Our infrastructure system is no less socialist than a would-be single payer system.

I'm not sure how to answer your question. I'm guessing you are using food stamps as an example. My answer would simply be my own philosophical opinion which is that we as a so ciety should help those who are most vulnerable. Vulnerable as in they cannot help themselves. Now sure, a decent chunk of people who are on food stamps are able bodid working people. I justify giving them food stamps because of the economy we live in. It's currently impossible for EVERY working adult to find a decent paying job that they can support themselves on. I know it sounds possible, but because low wage jobs greatly outnumber higher wage jobs, it is literally impossible.