Do Republicans need a Plan B for Obamacare?

[Listening]

Ahhh.. the trick of the lefties.. try and get the conservatives to say it has to be a GOVERNMENT handled solution...

The problem IS that it is government based to begin with

Nailed it.

 

[Listening]

Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

And yet dicks like Dottie will give Heritage credit for much of the bill.

You guys are way past due on your next round of medications.

 

[Lumpy 1]

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

And yet dicks like Dottie will give Heritage credit for much of the bill.

You guys are way past due on your next round of medications.

I suspect some of that egg in their faces also got suck in their ears..

 

[kwc57]

What if ObamaCare works?

That's their fear. I described it several times as seeing sausage being made vs the taste of sausage.

Once ACA starts working and people stop being raped by their Insurance policies or it goes straight single payer people will like it. So repubs have to describe every part of making the sausage as being the next terrible thing. OMG someone got dropped! OMG the website! OMG! OMG!

Starting Jan 1, come hell or highwater, millions of Americans will have Obamacare insurance

Republicans are banking their 2014 election chances on repealing Obamacare. What are they going to offer the millions of Americans who lose their coverage?

Yep.......after having their current low cost policy that they personally selected and liked cancelled because the gubmint knew what was better for them than they did......at a higher price. Yeah, that's a winning strategy. I'm sure you wouldn't mind at all if the gubmint took away your Birkenstock sandals and told you to wear Brooks Brothers wingtips because they are really what you need.

 

[Listening]

Just wait until this hits employer based insurance.

I expect that waiver will extend past the election (for obvious reasons).

It's still gonna cost the left bigtime.

 

[DiamondDave]

Challenge to Republicans

Offer up a non-government alternative to Obamacare

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

Fixed...

It is not up to government to create the marketplace, offer the service at a discount to it's chosen few, mandate purchase of a plan that only they qualify, or be in the business of healthcare at all

Not bad and duplicates much of what is in Obamacare.Why don't Republicans have a plan?

Simple question Republicans: Why don't you push a solution for universal healthcare coverage?
Simple answer: Because Republicans do not want Americans to have universal healthcare coverage

Well.. except for the fact that it does not make government the facilitator, the taxer, the entity requiring that you have a certain plan that they like, that forces you to participate, or that taxes one to subsidize another in the venture...

The majority of what is in obamalamacare is a joke and has no business in our government at all... and many things (like allowing groups of businesses to 'team up' as a group and reduce costs is ILLEGAL under obamalamacare)

But nice try

Nobody should have government mandated, sponsored, facilitated, or subsidized healthcare or health insurance.. it is an INDIVIDUAL RESPONSIBILITY....

And again.. your trick of trying to get your opponents to state a want for a government plan.... when the problem is that THIS IS A GOVERNMENT THING WITH OBAMALAMACARE

 

[Sallow]

First of all, there is no healthcare crisis that mandates changing the entire system. before ACA no one was being denied healthcare. Yes, there were a few problems that needed fixing.

making insurance companies take people with pre-existing conditions
eliminating maximum lifetime payments
fixing the outrageous cost of drugs, hospitals, and medical devices.

The real problems could have been fixed with a one page bill.

If the goal was to provide insurance to the 4 or 5 million citizens who did not have it, the govt could have bought each of them a policy for much much less than what ACA is costing, and left the rest of us alone.

ACA is not about healthcare or insurance-----its about a govt takeover of 1/6 of the economy and more socialism.

45,000 thousand Americans dying a year, many more going bankrupt and medical care skyrocketing up isn't a crisis to you?

Obama ran on the ACA..twice.

And won.

Americans thought it was a problem.

 

[DiamondDave]

Again, moron

Reduce regulations to allow ANY group to negotiate group rates (groups of businesses, clubs, groups of people, HOA's, chess clubs, etc etc etc)
Reduce regulations to open up the marketplace across the board and across state lines
Make SIMPLE law that states that all citizens must be able to purchase a healtcare or health insurance plan regardless of pre-existing conditions
Enact tort reform to reduce lawsuits
Reduce regulations to allow individual practices or groups of practices to offer preventative care at a monthly subscription cost, leaving the catastrophic care to insurance or to health savings accounts
Make a SIMPLE law requiring all medical providers to publish a price list for good and services so that costs are not hidden behind some 'all inclusive' insurance plan

It is not government's duty or job to be your nanny, your insurance provider, your healthcare provider, the one that funnels forced 'customers' to approved businesses who pay the government off, r anything of the sort

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

Again, you imbecile.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE, IMPLEMENT, SUBSIDIZE, FORCE PURCHASE IN, MANAGE, OR FACILITATE ANY UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN

 

[DiamondDave]

First of all, there is no healthcare crisis that mandates changing the entire system. before ACA no one was being denied healthcare. Yes, there were a few problems that needed fixing.

making insurance companies take people with pre-existing conditions
eliminating maximum lifetime payments
fixing the outrageous cost of drugs, hospitals, and medical devices.

The real problems could have been fixed with a one page bill.

If the goal was to provide insurance to the 4 or 5 million citizens who did not have it, the govt could have bought each of them a policy for much much less than what ACA is costing, and left the rest of us alone.

ACA is not about healthcare or insurance-----its about a govt takeover of 1/6 of the economy and more socialism.

45,000 thousand Americans dying a year, many more going bankrupt and medical care skyrocketing up isn't a crisis to you?

Obama ran on the ACA..twice.

And won.

Americans thought it was a problem.

More Americans than that dying every year... and people are not dying because we don't have quality healthcare.... and it is not anyone else's issue or responsibility for you to insure yourself, save for medical treatments, pay for upkeep, or anything else.. it is a personal responsibility

 

[Listening]

45,000 thousand Americans dying a year, many more going bankrupt and medical care skyrocketing up isn't a crisis to you?

Obama ran on the ACA..twice.

And won.

Americans thought it was a problem.

The 45 K number is a big myth. That the left keeps touting it is only evidence of it's lack of committment to the truth.

Obama ran on a lot of things the first time around and he was following in the footsteps of a baboon. The left would have elected Stalin over McCain.

And America thought it would be cool to the give the presidency to an Affirmative Action Candidate.

 

[rightwinger]

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

And yet dicks like Dottie will give Heritage credit for much of the bill.

You guys are way past due on your next round of medications.

How many Republicans voted for the Heritage proposal?

At least they had a proposal 20 years ago

 

[rightwinger]

Don't type it....Put it in a bill!


Actually after looking at it its just the same ol shit that's been rejected just reheated with gravy

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

Again, you imbecile.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE, IMPLEMENT, SUBSIDIZE, FORCE PURCHASE IN, MANAGE, OR FACILITATE ANY UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN

The American people say it is their job

 

[The Rabbi]

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

And yet dicks like Dottie will give Heritage credit for much of the bill.

You guys are way past due on your next round of medications.

How many Republicans voted for the Heritage proposal?

At least they had a proposal 20 years ago

None. There was no vote because there was no bill. There was no bill because it wasn't a Republican proposal. It wasn't a Republican proposal because Heritage is not a Republican group.
So other than being completely wrong, as usual, do you have anything helpful here to add?

 

[Listening]

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

Again, you imbecile.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE, IMPLEMENT, SUBSIDIZE, FORCE PURCHASE IN, MANAGE, OR FACILITATE ANY UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN

The American people say it is their job

All 320,000,000 of them ?

Or is there a chance that some of them don't.

And that your generalization is a load of crap.

 

[Listening]

Exactly

Fact is, Republicans will not stand behind any bill that has healthcare in it

It is a third rail with Conservatives

And yet dicks like Dottie will give Heritage credit for much of the bill.

You guys are way past due on your next round of medications.

How many Republicans voted for the Heritage proposal?

At least they had a proposal 20 years ago

So you just made a liar out of yourself ?

 

[rightwinger]

What if ObamaCare works?

That's their fear. I described it several times as seeing sausage being made vs the taste of sausage.

Once ACA starts working and people stop being raped by their Insurance policies or it goes straight single payer people will like it. So repubs have to describe every part of making the sausage as being the next terrible thing. OMG someone got dropped! OMG the website! OMG! OMG!

Starting Jan 1, come hell or highwater, millions of Americans will have Obamacare insurance

Republicans are banking their 2014 election chances on repealing Obamacare. What are they going to offer the millions of Americans who lose their coverage?

Yep.......after having their current low cost policy that they personally selected and liked cancelled because the gubmint knew what was better for them than they did......at a higher price. Yeah, that's a winning strategy. I'm sure you wouldn't mind at all if the gubmint took away your Birkenstock sandals and told you to wear Brooks Brothers wingtips because they are really what you need.

We will see about that won't we?

Voters can decide whether they have better policies than they had before Obamacare. For those without insurance, the answer is easy. For those who were forced to switch policies, they can decide if they got a better policy for the money and vote accordingly

Since the Republicans are only offering to take away peoples policies, I like the Democrats chances in 2014

 

[Listening]

Starting Jan 1, come hell or highwater, millions of Americans will have Obamacare insurance

Republicans are banking their 2014 election chances on repealing Obamacare. What are they going to offer the millions of Americans who lose their coverage?

Yep.......after having their current low cost policy that they personally selected and liked cancelled because the gubmint knew what was better for them than they did......at a higher price. Yeah, that's a winning strategy. I'm sure you wouldn't mind at all if the gubmint took away your Birkenstock sandals and told you to wear Brooks Brothers wingtips because they are really what you need.

We will see about that won't we

Voters can decide whether they have better policies than they had before Obamacare. For those without insurance, the answer is easy. For those who were forced to switch policies, they can decide if they got a better policy for the money and vote accordingly

Since the Republicans are only offering to take away peoples policies, I like the Democrats chances in 2014

Good. Keep thinking that way.

 

[rightwinger]

Again, you imbecile.. BECAUSE IT IS NOT THE JOB OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE, IMPLEMENT, SUBSIDIZE, FORCE PURCHASE IN, MANAGE, OR FACILITATE ANY UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE OR HEALTH INSURANCE PLAN

The American people say it is their job

All 320,000,000 of them ?

Or is there a chance that some of them don't.

And that your generalization is a load of crap.

Thats the way our elections work isn't it?

Obama specifically ran on passing a healthcare bill in 2008. He won election in a landslide

The people have spoken

 

[Listening]

The American people say it is their job

All 320,000,000 of them ?

Or is there a chance that some of them don't.

And that your generalization is a load of crap.

Thats the way our elections work isn't it?

Obama specifically ran on passing a healthcare bill in 2008. He won election in a landslide

The people have spoken

Well, that would be nice (if it fit your comment)

So explain to me the historic loss of the house by the dems in 2010.

 

[rightwinger]

All 320,000,000 of them ?

Or is there a chance that some of them don't.

And that your generalization is a load of crap.

Thats the way our elections work isn't it?

Obama specifically ran on passing a healthcare bill in 2008. He won election in a landslide

The people have spoken

Well, that would be nice (if it fit your comment)

So explain to me the historic loss of the house by the dems in 2010.

Houses have been lost before. Far from Historic
Republicans gerrymandered themselves a house and won a house

Democrats won a 60 seat Senate majority, the House, and the White House

Beat that