Do we let people die who do not have health insurance

[tycho1572]

When are you idiots going to learn?

 

[Jackson]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Did we ever let anyone die if they didn't have insurance? I can't recall the streets littered with bodies.

 

[tycho1572]

How many times of getting your ass kicked will it take? lol

 

[tycho1572]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Did we ever let anyone die if they didn't have insurance? I can't recall the streets littered with bodies.

That dumbass is just following the standard talking points of democrats. He can't think for himself.

 

[Steve_McGarrett]

Survival of the fittest! It's the only way to make America great again! Nevertheless, I believe Medicaid should be cut completely. It's a burdensome drain on the working taxpayers wallet and a drain on the economy.

Look at this, the Dutch are already euthanizing the mentally ill. This would be a good start to get rid of the burdens of society here in the states. We would be doing it out of love for God and the patient.

www.lifenews.com/2017/06/22/mentally-ill-patients-are-being-executed-under-dutch-euthanasia-law/

 

[MrShangles]

Die ???

Surely caring , bleeding heart, social justice, equality loving progressives will pay their way......

Because theyre morally superior....... lmfao

That's the whole point.

You haven't been paying attention.

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Isn't there a law that says you are supposed to be treated at an ER for life threatening situations? Do we not have clinics that treat patients that can't pay? I thought St Judes does that, and don't organizations like the Shriners do the same thing? Your premise is BS Elmer.

task0778

You're thinking of Ronnie RayGun's Socialist EMTALA but you've got the details very wrong.

First, trump/ryan will cause hospitals and clinics to close. That has been the goal of the Rs all along.

If you believe EMTALA pays for health care, you're wrong. Read the fine print. Basically, it says you get turfed and sent to your regular doctor the next day.

The real kicker though is that undocumented are treated under EMTALA. They can even have their babies and don't have to pay the bill. And abortions.

ObamaCares does not allow undocumented to buy coverage.

You're the one up to your belly button in BS. That's the problem with you knee-jerkers. All you known is you've been told you're against ObamaCares but you haven't a clue why. You need to start thinking for yourself and stop blindly following orders because, sooner or later, this will affect you or someone you love.

Do you personally buy from Obama care, or do you get health care provided by your job.
I bet it comes from your employer


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[ElmerMudd]

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Why? Its a false premise. When did you stop beating your wife?

It is not false premise.
"What do you do with a person who shows up at the emergency room with no insurance."
The answer can be treat them or let them die.
You can say treat them. But if you treat them the tax payers pick up the bill.

You can choose to not beat your wife. There are no negatives.
You can pick treat the uninsured but the consequence we all pick up the tab.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Isn't there a law that says you are supposed to be treated at an ER for life threatening situations? Do we not have clinics that treat patients that can't pay? I thought St Judes does that, and don't organizations like the Shriners do the same thing? Your premise is BS Elmer.

The premise is not BS. St Judes pays for all the children they ca. Burt that is a small % of chldren who need care and cannot pay.

 

[ElmerMudd]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Are you talking about the people with jobs who couldn't afford that Obamacare BS?

I am talking about people who cannot afford insurance under the new plan. Employers are not mandated to provide insurance under the new plan.

 

[task0778]

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Isn't there a law that says you are supposed to be treated at an ER for life threatening situations? Do we not have clinics that treat patients that can't pay? I thought St Judes does that, and don't organizations like the Shriners do the same thing? Your premise is BS Elmer.

The premise is not BS. St Judes pays for all the children they ca. Burt that is a small % of chldren who need care and cannot pay.

Yeah, but St Judes is not the only place that takes patients who can't pay. Your premise is basically that supporting the GOP HCI Bill means we would let people die without treatment, and that's BS. And you do realize that people die in other countries with UHC who were waiting for treatment or denied it, right?

 

[ElmerMudd]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Did we ever let anyone die if they didn't have insurance? I can't recall the streets littered with bodies.

No, prior to Obama care we always took care of all emergency situations if the person did not have insurance or money to pay.
But others paid the expenses through taxes and higher insurance rate. It cost us all bilions and billions of dollars.

 

[task0778]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Did we ever let anyone die if they didn't have insurance? I can't recall the streets littered with bodies.

No, prior to Obama care we always took care of all emergency situations if the person did not have insurance or money to pay.
But others paid the expenses through taxes and higher insurance rate. It cost us all bilions and billions of dollars.

Don't we still do that? How many people have died since Obamacare came into being that were denied treatment at an ER? And for that matter how many died before Obamacare who were denied treatment?

 

[ElmerMudd]

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Isn't there a law that says you are supposed to be treated at an ER for life threatening situations? Do we not have clinics that treat patients that can't pay? I thought St Judes does that, and don't organizations like the Shriners do the same thing? Your premise is BS Elmer.

The premise is not BS. St Judes pays for all the children they ca. Burt that is a small % of chldren who need care and cannot pay.

Yeah, but St Judes is not the only place that takes patients who can't pay. Your premise is basically that supporting the GOP HCI Bill means we would let people die without treatment, and that's BS. And you do realize that people die in other countries with UHC who were waiting for treatment or denied it, right?

I do not feel we will let people die under the new Republican plan. But then we will pay for those people through higher taxes and higher insurance rates. Those costs are not factored into the cost of the new plan.

The mandate under Obama care reduced the total dollars in taxes and higher insurance rate because people had to have coverage.

The Republican plan allows people to not buy insurance because they know f they have to go to the hospital they will not be turned away. It facilitates people not taking responsibility of their insurance and health cost.

 

[task0778]

Those supporting the new healthcare bill have to ask; do we let them die?
I do not support the bill.

Can someone who does support the bill answer the question about letting those die who do not have insurance.

Isn't there a law that says you are supposed to be treated at an ER for life threatening situations? Do we not have clinics that treat patients that can't pay? I thought St Judes does that, and don't organizations like the Shriners do the same thing? Your premise is BS Elmer.

The premise is not BS. St Judes pays for all the children they ca. Burt that is a small % of chldren who need care and cannot pay.

Yeah, but St Judes is not the only place that takes patients who can't pay. Your premise is basically that supporting the GOP HCI Bill means we would let people die without treatment, and that's BS. And you do realize that people die in other countries with UHC who were waiting for treatment or denied it, right?

I do not feel we will let people die under the new Republican plan. But then we will pay for those people through higher taxes and higher insurance rates. Those costs are not factored into the cost of the new plan.
We've been doing that before the ACA came along and we're doing it now, and will do it under whatever the GOP ends up with. We aren't going to have people dying in the streets, which is what your OP was suggesting. No matter how you cut it or which concept you're talking about, there will be uninsured people who will receive medical care that the rest of us pay for.

The mandate under Obama care reduced the total dollars in taxes and higher insurance rate because people had to have coverage.
Didn't work out that way, that's why the HCI companies are bailing out of the ACA. Not enough young and healthy people signed up. And the ACA sure as hell didn't lower insurance rates, but it did raise taxes.

The Republican plan allows people to not buy insurance because they know f they have to go to the hospital they will not be turned away. It facilitates people not taking responsibility of their insurance and health cost.

This part I can't argue with; if you're going to require HCI companies to insure people with pre-existing conditions then I don't see why anyone would buy insurance until they need it. Damned if I know how that can work any better than the mandate did.

 

[tycho1572]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Are you talking about the people with jobs who couldn't afford that Obamacare BS?

I am talking about people who cannot afford insurance under the new plan. Employers are not mandated to provide insurance under the new plan.

Employers shouldn't be mandated to provide health insurance.

 

[whitehall]

Nobody in the greatest Country in the world is refused medical treatment because they are unable to pay. It's a myth perpetuated by mostly left wingers who have been advocating the killing of the unborn for half a century.

 

[tycho1572]

Let the markets run their course. Government needs to stop trying to dictate the decisions businesses make.

 

[BluesLegend]

Why doesn't the self righteous left sell their houses and all their possessions and give the money to the government to fund healthcare for the poor...I mean they care right how can they allow poor people to die? Take one for the team libs, buy a bus pass, rent an apt you don't really need a car or house do you? I mean poor people are dying where's your priorities. /mockery /sarcasm

 

[Marion Morrison]

No! We make it all affordable, and cut insurance companies and Congress out.

That's just my 2 cents.

 

[Jackson]

When someone chooses not to buy health insurance and they do not have money to pay for doctor and/or hospital what do we do. Should we refuse service? Should we let them die? It is their choice to not have Insurance.
Do we provide service and let the government pay for what they cannot pay. The government is us. Why should we pay for someone who chose not to spend their money on insurance?

The responsible end up paying for the irresponsible.

Did we ever let anyone die if they didn't have insurance? I can't recall the streets littered with bodies.

No, prior to Obama care we always took care of all emergency situations if the person did not have insurance or money to pay.
But others paid the expenses through taxes and higher insurance rate. It cost us all bilions and billions of dollars.

And how much iks Obamacare costing us?