Do we need to lower drinking age??

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18, yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

But if they go overseas - usually they can drink at 18

It is worth noting that most of the world allows drinking by 18 and none of them have the alcohol problem that we do.

There really is something to making a substance or act taboo and kids naturally seeking it out.

But you can't explain something so simple to social conservatives. If they understood this they couldn't make an effective argument to continue controlling people's behavior.

 

[Anathema]

So what happened to you?

Nothing. Hell, I'd make consumable alcohol illegal again, given the power to do so.

 

[regent]

So how does the liquor industry feel about this?

 

[initforme]

If one believes in less gov't intervention then one believes in no minimum age... just like getting rid of minimum wage... same argument. Let each parent figure it out. Age 10? Age 12? Up to you. Right?

 

[FA_Q2]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18, yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

But if they go overseas - usually they can drink at 18

It is worth noting that most of the world allows drinking by 18 and none of them have the alcohol problem that we do.

There really is something to making a substance or act taboo and kids naturally seeking it out.

But you can't explain something so simple to social conservatives. If they understood this they couldn't make an effective argument to continue controlling people's behavior.

Sadly, you are correct. 'Social conservative' is an oxy moron though. You cannot advocate for small government from one side of your mouth and then advocate for government controlling morality from the other side. The 2 ideas are mutually exclusive.

There is something to be said for making it illegal for young children to drink as they are not of the age to actually consent but it really is not up to the government to stop children from drinking - its up to the parents. The last thing that the government should be doing though is telling adults that they are not allowed to drink and 18 is, legally, an adult.

 

[FA_Q2]

If one believes in less gov't intervention then one believes in no minimum age... just like getting rid of minimum wage... same argument. Let each parent figure it out. Age 10? Age 12? Up to you. Right?

No, those are two totally different concepts. One deals with people that are too young to consent and the other deals with people that are of legal age and able to take responsibility.

Drinking age is more akin to child labor laws than minimum wage laws. BTW, LESS government intervention is not the same as NO government intervention. When you assume the most extreme argument for the other side of an argument (reductio ad absurdum) you are being absurd. Just because someone believes that we need to limit the scope of government does not mean they want no government at all.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18, yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

But if they go overseas - usually they can drink at 18

It is worth noting that most of the world allows drinking by 18 and none of them have the alcohol problem that we do.

There really is something to making a substance or act taboo and kids naturally seeking it out.

But you can't explain something so simple to social conservatives. If they understood this they couldn't make an effective argument to continue controlling people's behavior.

Conservatives are fairly split on this issue, just like Leftists are. Nice try though.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Lower it to 14 when the parents allow it.

Maybe we should raise it to 25 when parents are not able to prohibit. We are speaking about the health of American children!
BE MORE SERIOUS, FRIENDS.
P.S. Marijuana must be banned in the USA.

Oh, so you're a troll and this isn't a serious topic.

 

[whitehall]

There is no U.S. "drinking age". It's set by individual states. As a matter of fact the ABC laws are so convoluted in some states that it defies understanding. In N.J. you can't get a drink in a restaurant but you can BYOB. Alcohol licenses are so expensive that only the mafia can afford them and they are treated like equity. In NY and most states you have liquor stores run by licensed civilians. In Va. only the state sells bottled liquor but you can buy beer in a grocery store. In N.C. the counties regulate their own alcohol laws. In Arizona you can buy liquor in a super market.

 

[squeeze berry]

the legal drinking age was 21 until the 1970s when some states lowered to 18

Bill Clinton demanded all states raise the legal age to 21 before they could get federal highway funds

blackmail

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

the legal drinking age was 21 until the 1970s when some states lowered to 18

Bill Clinton demanded all states raise the legal age to 21 before they could get federal highway funds

blackmail

False. That happened in the eighties under Reagan.

 

[oldunclemark]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18, yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

Yes..because kids drinking only hurts society.....the right to use drugs shall be infronged

 

[oldunclemark]

the legal drinking age was 21 until the 1970s when some states lowered to 18

Bill Clinton demanded all states raise the legal age to 21 before they could get federal highway funds

blackmail

wont work now..Republicans don't care about highway funds...or pubic schools or health care.
Not their kinda people

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

the legal drinking age was 21 until the 1970s when some states lowered to 18

Bill Clinton demanded all states raise the legal age to 21 before they could get federal highway funds

blackmail

False. That happened in the eighties under Reagan.

Yes, unfortunately true.

 

[TimothysAlaska]

Yes lower it to 18. It makes no sense that it is 21. But this administration considers you an adult only at age 27. Actual read reports about obamacare talking about adult children being covered to age 26. Saying adult children? Crazy! But that is what they believe; you're not an adult till 27.

I have been all over the world and 18 is in most European countries. Never had a problem. But conservative America does not like change, I can see them fight against lowering it as well as the current administration. So you can die for your country but you can't drink in your country....lol

"I waited until I was 21 why can't they?". I can see that argument circulating.

 

[Mr. H.]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18, yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

Yes..because kids drinking only hurts society.....the right to use drugs shall be infronged

Around my kids, I used to refer to my brother as Old Uncle Mark.

 

[FA_Q2]

There is no U.S. "drinking age". It's set by individual states. As a matter of fact the ABC laws are so convoluted in some states that it defies understanding. In N.J. you can't get a drink in a restaurant but you can BYOB. Alcohol licenses are so expensive that only the mafia can afford them and they are treated like equity. In NY and most states you have liquor stores run by licensed civilians. In Va. only the state sells bottled liquor but you can buy beer in a grocery store. In N.C. the counties regulate their own alcohol laws. In Arizona you can buy liquor in a super market.

As squeeze pointed out and Taz corrected, the law is essentially federal. It was a blatant fed power grab that I cannot believe survived constitutional muster.

 

[blackhawk]

Leave it at 21.

 

[auditor0007]

American males are required to register with Selective Service at age 18 and so could potentially be sent half a world away with a gun in their hands, Joe.

Yet they can't buy a fucking beer?

Daz fug dup.

I have no problem with the age being set at 21 for public drinking of alchohol. It actually makes good sense, and we should do a better job to enforce it. That being said, anyone under 21 should be permitted to drink alcohol in their own home, and anyone who is enlisted military should be permitted to drink anywhere that it is legal, even if they are under 21.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Should the U.S. lower its drinking age - CNN.com
Howere not all the Americans agree to lower drinking age. There has been controversy whether 21 is too young to make decisions. Just more than 9 million people have visited a website that claims the drinking age will be raised to 25 beginning August of 2014.
So it is unclear what should we expect?
What do you consider about these tendencies?

there should be no drinking age.

all it does is make kids want it more so the binge when they have the chance.