Do you believe D. McGahn or DJ Trump?

[boedicca]

Here's the big problem with the Mueller report: it is one side of the story with no chance for the subject to refute the interpretation of events. In a proper proceeding, the defense is able to question witnesses. Volume II of the report is just a political hit job.

Here's are key points on McGahn. Trump was trying to make the case that Mueller had conflicts of interest - this is very clear. In RealityLand, Mueller was highly conflicted and appointed by the equally conflicted Rosenstein. From page 88 of Volume II.

 

[boedicca]

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Testimony under oath in a real legal proceeding is subject to cross examination. No such cross examination occurred. This is a one-sided political hit job. If the evidence existed to indict, then a proper judicial process would have enabled Trump to present his defense. But that would have upset the political agenda - hence no charge and just political attacks.

 

[Penelope]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

Are you sure you are not committing a bifurcation fallacy?

What exactly did Trump say and what exactly did McGahn say that has you so concerned?

Can you read?Page 335 of the full report is page 123 of Volume II

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Dumb, you guys are acting so stupid, I swear it's impossible to even try and converse with some of you.

 

[boedicca]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

Are you sure you are not committing a bifurcation fallacy?

What exactly did Trump say and what exactly did McGahn say that has you so concerned?

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

Well then what is it, McGahn or Trump? Easy to answer.

It's very easy to answer. According to the Mueller report, Trump told McGahn that Mueller had conflicts of interests. Then he told him to tell the DOJ to remove him. He did not order McGah to fire him - he ordered him to relay a message to Rod Rosenstein. The DOJ disputed that Mueller had conflicts of interest, and did nothing. Mueller was not fired. So you pathetic moonbats can continue to spin this all you want. Go ahead with impeaching Trump - that will ensure he wins in 2020.

No that is not right, not what is said on page 335 of report.

Now who do you think is lying and should McGahn be indicted lying to Mueller. He intended to obstruct justice several times. He should be sending flowers to McGahn everyday instead of calling him a lying bast...d.

I call shenanigans. Page 335 of the full report is page 123 of Volume II. It says no such thing. It is about Manafort.

Yes it does. He order McGahn to fire Mueller.

Liar. Page 335 says no such thing. Download a copy and search for it yourself.

 

[boedicca]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

Are you sure you are not committing a bifurcation fallacy?

What exactly did Trump say and what exactly did McGahn say that has you so concerned?

Can you read?Page 335 of the full report is page 123 of Volume II

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Dumb, you guys are acting so stupid, I swear it's impossible to even try and converse with some of you.

Clearly you can't read.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump

So do you think McGahn should be indicted for lying to Mueller while under oath??

He said what he believed to be true. That is not a lie. The Mueller report also gives credence to the fact that he may have misunderstood what Trump said.

It doesn't matter anyway. If Trump ordered McGhan to fire Mueller, it is perfectly legal, so you cannot obstruct justice by acting legally. The question is better as to why Trump would tell someone else to do what he was perfectly capable of doing legally?

BTW, I guess the Democrats no longer believe in attorney-client privilege anymore. That will not set well for them when they are sitting at the defense table and the prosecution calls their attorney to testify against them.

So Obama's attorney is called to the stand, and is asked, "What illegal acts has the former President told you that he has committed? Remember, you are under oath and the threat of perjury! No, you cannot refuse to answer because you Democrats did away with attorney client privilege during the Mueller investigation, don't you remember? The President's White House counsel was called to testify against him."

 

[Penelope]

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Testimony under oath in a real legal proceeding is subject to cross examination. No such cross examination occurred. This is a one-sided political hit job. If the evidence existed to indict, then a proper judicial process would have enabled Trump to present his defense. But that would have upset the political agenda - hence no charge and just political attacks.

So you want McGahn indicted, and perhaps Mueller as well, since he had so many conflicts of interest.

 

[Siete]

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Testimony under oath in a real legal proceeding is subject to cross examination. No such cross examination occurred. This is a one-sided political hit job. If the evidence existed to indict, then a proper judicial process would have enabled Trump to present his defense. But that would have upset the political agenda - hence no charge and just political attacks.

really ? what court were they in ?

 

[Penelope]

Trump

So do you think McGahn should be indicted for lying to Mueller while under oath??

He said what he believed to be true. That is not a lie. The Mueller report also gives credence to the fact that he may have misunderstood what Trump said.

It doesn't matter anyway. If Trump ordered McGhan to fire Mueller, it is perfectly legal, so you cannot obstruct justice by acting legally. The question is better as to why Trump would tell someone else to do what he was perfectly capable of doing legally?

BTW, I guess the Democrats no longer believe in attorney-client privilege anymore. That will not set well for them when they are sitting at the defense table and the prosecution calls their attorney to testify against them.

So Obama's attorney is called to the stand, and is asked, "What illegal acts has the former President told you that he has committed? Remember, you are under oath and the threat of perjury! No, you cannot refuse to answer because you Democrats did away with attorney client privilege during the Mueller investigation, don't you remember? The President's White House counsel was called to testify against him."

And investigation into himself. BS, if he would to fire Mueller, there would be impeachment as soon as the Dems took control of the house, since the republicans wouldn't do a damn thing, and tramp and the GOP are still obstructing.

 

[boedicca]

A better question is: do you believe your own judgment or the spin pushed by the Anti-Trump Lamestream Media?

testimony given under oath is media spin ?

mmmmmmmmmmmmmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk - sure.

Testimony under oath in a real legal proceeding is subject to cross examination. No such cross examination occurred. This is a one-sided political hit job. If the evidence existed to indict, then a proper judicial process would have enabled Trump to present his defense. But that would have upset the political agenda - hence no charge and just political attacks.

So you want McGahn indicted, and perhaps Mueller as well, since he had so many conflicts of interest.

No, I want Barr to investigate the abuse of power and coup attempt orchestrated by the Obama Administration. The Mueller report is a political hit job with very low credibility. He never should have been appointed in the first place. The Obama admin and its embeds knew all along that there was NO COLLUSION. This is the worst abuse of power in the history of the United States. Never before has an outgoing administration attempted to overthrow its successor.

 

[Crixus]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

So?
A discussion of firing Mueller is well within his power.
The only reason he didn't fire him was political, he was strongly advised to just let it go...which was the right thing to do...because it ain't over now.
There MUST be a thorough investigation to this obvious FUBAR.
We must make sure this never happens again or we are no better than the Banana Republics where this kind of shit happens annually.

 

[Penelope]

McGahn

Do you think he should be indicted then?

 

[Penelope]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

So?
A discussion of firing Mueller is well within his power.
The only reason he didn't fire him was political, he was strongly advised to just let it go...which was the right thing to do...because it ain't over now.
There MUST be a thorough investigation to this obvious FUBAR.
We must make sure this never happens again or we are no better than the Banana Republics where this kind of shit happens annually.

No, its not over.

 

[joaquinmiller]

C'mon, Trump's word is not his bond, and neither is his signature. McGahn spoke under oath. When Trump makes his claim under oath (which will never happen), then it might be a halfway-reasonable question.

 

[caddo kid]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

McGahn has graduated from THREE different universities with a bachelors, JD, and Masters of Law degrees.
McGahn has been married to one woman & there have been no rumors, nor controversy pertaining to infidelities.

Trump on the other hand ............... well he has claimed to have sexually assaulted multiple women, has cheated on everyone of his three (known) wives, thus Trump has severe issues with vows aka oaths.

Besides the fact that McGahn is a 'better' person on paper alone, I believe McGahn.

Trump has been known as a serial liar his entire life.

McGahn told the truth to the Mueller investigation.

Trump as usual is lying his ass off.

But that doesn't matter, as ANY Trump supporter will tell any of US here; morality does not fucking matter.

 

[Dick Foster]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

Trump of course. If he'd wanted to fire Muller, he would have.

 

[joaquinmiller]

Here's a fair question: Did you believe Trump more when he denied paying Stormy Daniels or when he admitted paying stormy Daniels?

The same both times?

 

[Penelope]

I'm no fan of either but who do you believe

McGahn who said under oath that he was told by Tramp to fire the Mueller.

Or Tramp??

- one or the other lied. Just who do you think it was? And if it was McGahn should he be indicted for lying under oath??

Either McGahn lied under oath, or Tramp is lying on national television to the American People.

Just put McGahn or Trump down. That is all you need to do.

Trump of course. If he'd wanted to fire Muller, he would have.

He couldn't fire anyone else except on his show, the Apprentice. Gutless wonder person.

 

[Aldo Raine]

McGahn

Do you think he should be indicted then?

Why because I believe Mcgahn he should be indicted? On what charge, telling the truth and not following a deranged Orange demagogue 's orders?