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That's right. It rises FAR ABOVE them, because of the NUCLEAR component, as well as CYBERwarfare, EMPs, and other WMD that weren't a threat in the first 2 world wars. How dumb could anyone be, to not see this obvious fact ?They are not for no reason. Are you blind ? You haven't seen ISIS come into Iraq right after Obama pulled the troops out n 2010 ? And aren't you aware of the significance of the combination of the largest unproven oil reserves in the world in Iraq, and the wealth to acquire nuclear weapons ? Think man, think.
In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.
Iraq 8217 s Government Not Obama Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence TIME.com
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Beds won't protect against nuclear missles, EMPs, or CYBER attacks. Get with it. This ain't 1955.I didn't say ISIS was World War III. ISIS is one jihadist group in the world war, among dozens of others scattered all over the globe.
you can come out from under your bed now...
As the Rolling Stones still say > "You can't always get what you want."In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.
Iraq 8217 s Government Not Obama Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence TIME.com
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
I want to retaliate when we are attacked. I don't want to be in the middle east at all, I don't want to be engaged in wars like Iraq that aren't our problem, I don't want to be nation building in Afghanistan.
You support a party that is far more militaristic than that. Obama continued the war in Iraq, continued nation building in Afghanistan, got us into war in Libya and saber rattled in Egypt and Syria. And you call me scary militaristic? Dante is completely fucking delusional.
nice to know some things in life stay the same
" to respond when we are attacked, but not when we are not? What is scary about that exactly?
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Oh please, al qaeda attacked the WTC in 2001. People like you would wage constant war, ala Israel with her neighbors, in order to keep us safe from a mythical giant. People like you would bankrupt us to keep us safe from you mythical giant
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Well if their Air Force had bombed Manhattan or their Navy had been shelling it, I might have a different opinion.
LOL, the blind spot of the British as well in 1776. The Americans didn't fight like Europeans on battlefields did, we were no threat to them. It's funny how liberals like to think of yourselves as progressive thinkers when you are regressive. Threats are threats, you don't get to tell your enemy the rules of how to fight you.
The Americans didn't always fight like the British but mostly they did. Especially after we started receiving aid from the French. The scumbag suicide bombers represent a threat, anyone willing to die in an attack is hard to stop. But it's not a threat like the Wolfe Pack patrolling our east coast and Atlantic sinking our merchant vessels.
Dolt! We've been there for years, and haven't gotten one drop of Iraq's oil. We get our oil from Canada, KSA, Venezuela, Mexico, and what we drill here. NUCLEAR WEAPONS is the issue here.LOL, so we're not in the Middle East fighting wars because there is oil there, only ISIS is doing that? Sure, Virginia, sure...
So THIS isn't quite enough ?What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Well if their Air Force had bombed Manhattan or their Navy had been shelling it, I might have a different opinion.
They are not for no reason. Are you blind ? You haven't seen ISIS come into Iraq right after Obama pulled the troops out n 2010 ? And aren't you aware of the significance of the combination of the largest unproven oil reserves in the world in Iraq, and the wealth to acquire nuclear weapons ? Think man, think.
In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.
Iraq 8217 s Government Not Obama Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence TIME.com
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
Neville Chamberlain would be proud.
What a stupid analogy
Pretense will get you nowhere.
Jihadists aren't robbing 7-11s. They are all over the world, waging a world war.read your post.This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Oh please, al qaeda attacked the WTC in 2001. People like you would wage constant war, ala Israel with her neighbors, in order to keep us safe from a mythical giant. People like you would bankrupt us to keep us safe from you mythical giant
Didn't actually read my post, did you Skippy? You support a President who wages far more war than I would. LOL. What a tool.
I disagree with some of the President's actions and agree with others. Your type fears criminals and turns them into mythical giants
That's right. It rises FAR ABOVE them, because of the NUCLEAR component, as well as CYBERwarfare, EMPs, and other WMD that weren't a threat in the first 2 world wars. How dumb could anyone be, to not see this obvious fact ?In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.
Iraq 8217 s Government Not Obama Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence TIME.com
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
As the Rolling Stones still say > "You can't always get what you want."What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Jihadists aren't robbing 7-11s. They are all over the world, waging a world war.read your post.If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Oh please, al qaeda attacked the WTC in 2001. People like you would wage constant war, ala Israel with her neighbors, in order to keep us safe from a mythical giant. People like you would bankrupt us to keep us safe from you mythical giant
Didn't actually read my post, did you Skippy? You support a President who wages far more war than I would. LOL. What a tool.
I disagree with some of the President's actions and agree with others. Your type fears criminals and turns them into mythical giants
In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.
Iraq 8217 s Government Not Obama Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence TIME.com
What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
Neville Chamberlain would be proud.
What a stupid analogy
Pretense will get you nowhere.
What does "pretense" have to do with anything? What does going to the middle east and fighting ISIS virtually by ourselves when they aren't attacking us have to do with appeasing the Nazis when they were directly threatening England and Europe where England actually is located? It's a stupid analogy.
Posts like this always make me suspicious if the writer is from ISIS (or a jihadist sympathizer himself) No normal, intelligent person could think like this.protist 10585507Today, we have the radical Muslims fighting against everyone who doesn't share their insane ideology.
Stupid Comment #002 - I don't share DAIISH terrorist scum's insane ideology. Not one of those terrorist scum have attempted to fight me.
Why dignify the terrorist scum by declaring them fighters. They prey on the weak and unarmed and used social media to exaggerate their strength in numbers that caused an 'on paper only' army in northern Iraq to flee rather than fight. They are not fighters or anything close to being a soldier or warrior.
Jihadists aren't robbing 7-11s. They are all over the world, waging a world war.read your post.Yes, it's not like they are bringing down buildings in Manhattan or anything.
I want to fight anyone who attacks us, I just don't want to fight people who don't and I don't want to be in countries we don't belong propping up dictators.
Oh please, al qaeda attacked the WTC in 2001. People like you would wage constant war, ala Israel with her neighbors, in order to keep us safe from a mythical giant. People like you would bankrupt us to keep us safe from you mythical giant
Didn't actually read my post, did you Skippy? You support a President who wages far more war than I would. LOL. What a tool.
I disagree with some of the President's actions and agree with others. Your type fears criminals and turns them into mythical giants
I agree. However, as long as we are willing to be the global policeman and do it on our own while our "allies" stab us in the back, why would they man up to confronting it? Imagine the brick they would lay if they found out we aren't doing it anymore other than to protect ourselves without a global ... team ... effort to do that.
Threat ? Threat are thing that might happen in the future. We've been getting attacked left and right (over 100 times) since 9/11, See Posts # 125 & 128.That's right. It rises FAR ABOVE them, because of the NUCLEAR component, as well as CYBERwarfare, EMPs, and other WMD that weren't a threat in the first 2 world wars. How dumb could anyone be, to not see this obvious fact ?What a lame answer. Obama didn't try to extend it. Man up and take a position.
My position is we should have left, stayed out and we should stay out of fighting ISIS now. I stand behind leaving.
At least if you say Obama should have tried to stay and didn't, you disagree with him on that you'd be taking a stand on a view.
Just saying it was W means you need political Viagara.
It was for historical accuracy. Not only was the date of withdrawal inaccurate but also the fact that it was President Bushes time frame not President Obama's. Furthermore it was the Shiite dominated Iraq government that is mostly responsible for the rekindling of the Iraq Civil war, and the alliance between the Sunnis and ISIS, not Bush, not Obama.
This is a current events thread, not a history one.
If you're willing to play fast and loose with facts your conclusion is suspect. Fact is the terrorist threat does not rise to the level of either of the two world wars.
With Iran, Pakistan, North Korea and so forth that cat is out of the bag. When the Euroweenies, Russia and China and we want to work together to actually address the threat then we're talking. Going it alone while they undermine us is a non-starter, or it should be. We should only do that when the threat is to us.
Beds won't protect against nuclear missles, EMPs, or CYBER attacks. Get with it. This ain't 1955.I didn't say ISIS was World War III. ISIS is one jihadist group in the world war, among dozens of others scattered all over the globe.
you can come out from under your bed now...
I want to retaliate when we are attacked. I don't want to be in the middle east at all, I don't want to be engaged in wars like Iraq that aren't our problem, I don't want to be nation building in Afghanistan.
You support a party that is far more militaristic than that. Obama continued the war in Iraq, continued nation building in Afghanistan, got us into war in Libya and saber rattled in Egypt and Syria. And you call me scary militaristic? Dante is completely fucking delusional.
nice to know some things in life stay the same
Seriously? Dante thinks it's "
Beds won't protect against nuclear missles, EMPs, or CYBER attacks. Get with it. This ain't 1955.I didn't say ISIS was World War III. ISIS is one jihadist group in the world war, among dozens of others scattered all over the globe.
you can come out from under your bed now...
