Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

[tycho1572]

What with bath house barry telling them they can vote, what would you expect?

“When you vote, you are citizen”

It’s incredible how anyone could have voted for that idiot.
Remember when he said this?.......


smh

Its incredible how anyone coudl have voted for this idiot

Remember when he said this:

I’ll vote for a guy who likes pussy over a dick lover who doesn’t even know how many states we have.

Of course you will vote for the guy who brags about sexually assaulting women.

Who doesn't even know what a birth certificate is.

Is that worse than having a president who doesn’t even know how many states there are? lol

 

[Flash]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically valid difference?)

See if this helps:


1. How's this....LA Times:

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two


2. "It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!


3. California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015
Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/

4. "... there is evidence that both foreign nationals who are lawfully present in the United States and illegal aliens have voted in recent elections. During this election cycle, noncitizens have been discovered on voter registration rolls in both Virginia and Pennsylvania. 2 And the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of New York recently announced that it charged a Canadian woman with making a false claim to citizenship after she registered and voted in more than 20 elections.3

Several past elections – for the presidency and other offices – have been extremely close. Accordingly, ballots cast by noncitizen voters have the potential to improperly alter the outcome of elections. Consider how close the 2000 presidential election was.
Could the outcome have been affected by noncitizen voting? The answer is yes."
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections


5. "Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration."
Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

6. "Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

7. "Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats And Illegal Immigration
… a leaked document from the Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund shows what most of us have always known, but what Democrats like to pretend isn’t their reality.

Namely, the memo, in great detail, maps out how Democrats are relying on illegal immigration to prop up their political future.

“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” reads Palmieri’s memo,…” Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats and Illegal Immigration

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote


9. "WASHINGTON – California will take the next step in blurring the lines between citizens and non-citizens beginning April Fool’s Day when the state complies with a court order to begin automatically registering to vote all those who are granted driver’s licenses.

The state has long provided driver’s licenses to all who simply claimed, without proof, that they were citizens of in the country legally. There were no checks made or documentation required.

But beginning April 1 every person who gets a California driver’s license will be automatically entitled to vote.

...under a program dubbed the California New Motor Voter Act. Signed into law in October 2015, the new statute requires the DMV to forward records for all eligible applicants to the Secretary of State’s Office for registration unless those applicants elect not to register to vote."
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically"
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically

9. "Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers. "
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review



10. "More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses"
More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received driver's licenses, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday.

Assembly Bill 60, authored by then-Assemblyman Luis Alejo in 2013, required California DMV offices to issue driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants as long as they can prove their identity and residence within the state. The law has led to 1,001,000 undocumented immigrants receiving licenses as of March 31 ...."
More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses


Will Hussein Obama return in to tell 'em all to go out and vote, as he did in 2016????


You betcha'!!!!!

You have presented no solid evidence of substantive Illegal Voting.

You merely serve-up speculation on potential, in the State of California.

Illinois also has a register-to-vote-while-you-get-your-drivers-license service, but there is very little evidence of widespread Illegal Voting.

And Illinois, too, has a large Illegal Aliens population.

A handful of isolated cases in West Virginia and Pennsylvania are hardly the basis for statistical significance.

Sorry.

Don't be sorry.....just change your avi to "WillfulIgnorance."

 

[Kondor3]

...We are trying to fix it. We elected Trump and he is trying to, but you criminals try to stop him at every turn.

1. I am on your (apparent) side in the fight against Illegal Aliens

2. We merely differ on whether widespread Illegal Voting has already occurred.

3. We merely differ on whether Illegal Voting has already substantively impacted upon election results in a statistically significant manner

4. I do not believe in his Wall but I believe in establishing conditions harsh enough to make Illegals want to head home under their own steam

5. People who hold differing opinions and who seek to translate those opinions into political action are not criminals; they're fellow citizens

 

[Kondor3]

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically valid difference?)

See if this helps:


1. How's this....LA Times:

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two


2. "It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."
It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!


3. California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015
Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/

4. "... there is evidence that both foreign nationals who are lawfully present in the United States and illegal aliens have voted in recent elections. During this election cycle, noncitizens have been discovered on voter registration rolls in both Virginia and Pennsylvania. 2 And the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of New York recently announced that it charged a Canadian woman with making a false claim to citizenship after she registered and voted in more than 20 elections.3

Several past elections – for the presidency and other offices – have been extremely close. Accordingly, ballots cast by noncitizen voters have the potential to improperly alter the outcome of elections. Consider how close the 2000 presidential election was.
Could the outcome have been affected by noncitizen voting? The answer is yes."
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections


5. "Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration."
Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

6. "Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

7. "Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats And Illegal Immigration
… a leaked document from the Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund shows what most of us have always known, but what Democrats like to pretend isn’t their reality.

Namely, the memo, in great detail, maps out how Democrats are relying on illegal immigration to prop up their political future.

“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” reads Palmieri’s memo,…” Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats and Illegal Immigration

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote


9. "WASHINGTON – California will take the next step in blurring the lines between citizens and non-citizens beginning April Fool’s Day when the state complies with a court order to begin automatically registering to vote all those who are granted driver’s licenses.

The state has long provided driver’s licenses to all who simply claimed, without proof, that they were citizens of in the country legally. There were no checks made or documentation required.

But beginning April 1 every person who gets a California driver’s license will be automatically entitled to vote.

...under a program dubbed the California New Motor Voter Act. Signed into law in October 2015, the new statute requires the DMV to forward records for all eligible applicants to the Secretary of State’s Office for registration unless those applicants elect not to register to vote."
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically"
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically

9. "Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers. "
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review



10. "More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses"
More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received driver's licenses, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday.

Assembly Bill 60, authored by then-Assemblyman Luis Alejo in 2013, required California DMV offices to issue driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants as long as they can prove their identity and residence within the state. The law has led to 1,001,000 undocumented immigrants receiving licenses as of March 31 ...."
More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses


Will Hussein Obama return in to tell 'em all to go out and vote, as he did in 2016????


You betcha'!!!!!

You have presented no solid evidence of substantive Illegal Voting.

You merely serve-up speculation on potential, in the State of California.

Illinois also has a register-to-vote-while-you-get-your-drivers-license service, but there is very little evidence of widespread Illegal Voting.

And Illinois, too, has a large Illegal Aliens population.

A handful of isolated cases in West Virginia and Pennsylvania are hardly the basis for statistical significance.

Sorry.

Don't be sorry.....just change your avi to "WillfulIgnorance."

Snarky responses are no substitute for evidence.

 

[Flash]

[Q

5. People who hold differing opinions and who seek to translate those opinions into political action are not criminals; they're fellow citizens

Yea but if the "different view" is a bat shit crazy Liberal view then it is OK to ridicule them.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

We are trying to fix it. We elected Trump and he is trying to, but you criminals try to stop him at every turn.

How do criminals stop the President of the United States and a Republican House and Senate, Republican Governors, the FEC, state and local prosecutors' Republicans on election boards, and ICE, from investigating and prosecuting non-citizens in the millions that allegedly voted for Hillary in 2016 thus causing Trumpo to lose the popular vote?

How do these criminals achieve such a thing?

 

[tycho1572]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

Libs are a clueless segment of society that working Americans despise.

 

[Kondor3]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

1. I do not believe that Illegal Aliens are voting in statistically significant numbers (*)

2. I do not believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous

So much for that blanket observation, eh?

( * when you produce authoritative evidence to the contrary, I'll be very happy to concede the point )

 

[PoliticalChic]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

1. I do not believe that Illegal Aliens are voting in statistically significant numbers (*)

2. I do not believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous

( * when you produce authoritative evidence to the contrary, I'll be very happy to concede the point )

How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

 

[tycho1572]

You people are a worthless bunch, Syriusly.

 

[Kondor3]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

1. I do not believe that Illegal Aliens are voting in statistically significant numbers (*)

2. I do not believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous

( * when you produce authoritative evidence to the contrary, I'll be very happy to concede the point )

How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

Anywhere from 11-12,000,000 is a conservative estimate... could be much more.

 

[Flash]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

1. I do not believe that Illegal Aliens are voting in statistically significant numbers (*)

2. I do not believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous

So much for that blanket observation, eh?

( * when you produce authoritative evidence to the contrary, I'll be very happy to concede the point )

What do you base that on?

There are some dots that you have to connect here.

1. The states that had the largest disparity of Crooked Hillary to Trump votes also had the largest number of Illegals.

2. Trump ran on a platform to stop Illegal immigration.

3. The states that had the largest disparity also have the laxest voter registration laws.

4. If Trump was going to win he was going to deport the Illegals.

It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out, does it?

It is probable that 3-5 million of the little shitheads found a way to vote for Crooked Hillary with the blessing, encouragement and aiding of the filthy ass Democrat Party.

If you don't want to believe that then fine. We expect that kind of denial out you Moon Bats.

 

[Esmeralda]

With his DACA and DAPA programs Obozo gave millions of these criminal invaders a certificate telling them they can live and work here even though the LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO NEITHER!!! And yet democrats tell us they were strict about enforcing the laws against illegals voting. HAHAHAHA

Obama ENCOURAGED the illegals to vote both 2012 and 16 and they did by the millions. It's extremely important to an illegal that the open borders and welfare party be in power. They undoubtedly vote at a higher rate than citizens do.

 

[rightwinger]

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

Maybe he did... maybe he didn't... doesn't matter, other than serving as a distraction...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically significant difference? )

Any illegal voting is probably because they thought they could and nobody stoped them

There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud

What evidence will you accept?

Go through the rolls of voters from 2016 and verify their citizenship
Find any who were illegal

 

[Redfish]

The same Liberal morons that believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous are the same yokels that don't think Illegals vote.

1. I do not believe that Illegal Aliens are voting in statistically significant numbers (*)

2. I do not believe that higher taxation and more welfare makes this country more prosperous

( * when you produce authoritative evidence to the contrary, I'll be very happy to concede the point )

How many illegal aliens reside in the USofA?

the dems are desperately trying to legalize them so that they can capture more congressional seats based on population. We know they are voting in California and Chicago. No one knows how many voted in 2016 along with the dead democrat voters and the dem voters who voted in multiple precincts and states.

 

[tycho1572]

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

Maybe he did... maybe he didn't... doesn't matter, other than serving as a distraction...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically significant difference? )

Any illegal voting is probably because they thought they could and nobody stoped them

There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud

What evidence will you accept?

Go through the rolls of voters from 2016 and verify their citizenship
Find any who were illegal

Didn’t California refuse to show that data?

 

[Redfish]

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

Maybe he did... maybe he didn't... doesn't matter, other than serving as a distraction...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically significant difference? )

Any illegal voting is probably because they thought they could and nobody stoped them

There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud

What evidence will you accept?

Go through the rolls of voters from 2016 and verify their citizenship
Find any who were illegal

since no voter ID is required in most libtardian states, that is impossible------------and it is that way on purpose and you fricken well know it.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

PoliticalChic, post: 19674552

She asks if UNDOCUMENTED aliens can vote...will they be caught and deported....Obama says 'no way'....you're a citizen if if you're illegal!!!!

Your are filthy deplorable liar and you put it in writing.

Here is a direct uncut very important paragraph:


OBAMA: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

Did Obama Encourage Illegal Immigrants to Vote? No, But YES.

The "you" in the above is a legal US citizen by birth and Obama knows that.


You posted that link. I think you picked a wrong one.


She did not ask if UNDOCUMENTED aliens can vote.

and Obama did not answer;

"Obama says 'no way'....you're a citizen if if you're illegal!!!!""

You lied here. Doctored cut butchered what was actually said.

 

[miketx]

PoliticalChic, post: 19674552

She asks if UNDOCUMENTED aliens can vote...will they be caught and deported....Obama says 'no way'....you're a citizen if if you're illegal!!!!

Your are filthy deplorable liar and you put it in writing.

Here is a direct uncut very important paragraph:


OBAMA: ... who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.

Did Obama Encourage Illegal Immigrants to Vote? No, But YES.

The "you" in the above is a legal US citizen by birth and Obama knows that.


You posted that link. I think you picked a wrong one.


She did not ask if UNDOCUMENTED aliens can vote.

and Obama did not answer;

"Obama says 'no way'....you're a citizen if if you're illegal!!!!""

You lied here. Doctored cut butchered what was actually said.

Thanks Goebbels.