Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

[Billo_Really]

It wasn't a point, it was a question, and you failed to answer it. That's because what you said doesn't stop illegal aliens from voting, and just you saying they don't doesn't cut it.

Let me know when you come up with some way of preventing them from voting. Only way I know is to check citizenship, and that isn't done.

Why don't you come up with some proof they did vote?

 

[Billo_Really]

If any Independents are reading what you're posting, they can easily see you're lying, and if on the fence, they'll be there no longer.

Its just common sense. The more contact you have with the government, the greater the chances of you getting caught.

 

[Billo_Really]

Illegals avoid government? HAHAHA. So why did millions of illegals sign up for DACA?. And why are millions collecting welfare? And why do millions put their kids in our public schools? THINK

They pay their way and contribute to the local economy. But they don't vote.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Where are cons going to find young new recruits. Cons are dying off. They need illegal votes or repress voting to survive.

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Conservatives don't need young new recruits. Today's young libs will just naturally turn conservative as they age.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

Why don't you come up with some proof they did vote?

We've already done that. DACA proved that dems do not enforce any law that is opposed by illegals.

 

[Erinwltr]

Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

Good question. Let's look at the report from Trump's commission on voter fraud.

Oh.....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-10/trump-commision-on-election-integrity-found-no-evidence-of-voter-fraud?context=amp

You win the Interwebs!

 

[Faun]

Why don't you come up with some proof they did vote?

We've already done that. DACA proved that dems do not enforce any law that is opposed by illegals.

Great, than you should be able to show the millions who voted....

 

[mudwhistle]

Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

Inasmuch as all the people noted below have asserted that there is no material incidence of voter fraud, I think that if unauthorized individuals vote, it's not worth ushering to the front of the line, as it were, the fact that on rarefied occasions an unauthorized person here and there does cast a vote that shouldn't count.

1. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, in response to Trump’s tweet, tweeted: “We conducted a review 4 years ago in Ohio & already have a statewide review of 2016 election underway. Easy to vote, hard to cheat #Ohio”
2. Louisiana Secretary of State Tom Schedler, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Louisiana did not have any widespread irregularities or allegations of fraud during the 2016 Presidential Election Cycle.”
3. California Secretary of State Alex Padilla, a Democrat, released a series of tweets condemning Trump’s fraud allegations:
   • Jan 23: “Trump continues to falsely allege millions of fraudulent votes. Still no proof. Not an #alternativefact, just a #lie. #DefendDemocracy”
   • Jan 24: “#Trump is dangerously attacking the legitimacy of free and fair elections and taking a jackhammer to the foundation of our democracy.”
   • Jan 25: “@RealDonaldTrump should investigate Russian interference in our elections, not fake claims of voter fraud intended to suppress voting rights”
4. New Mexico Secretary of State Maggie Toulouse Oliver, a Democrat, said that the “allegations are simply not true” and that she was “extremely concerned that President Trump is pushing these voter fraud lies to justify future efforts making it harder to vote.”
5. Dean Logan, the Los Angeles County voter registrar, when asked about non-citizens trying to vote, said: “I’ve never seen any incident of that… there are severe penalties. It’s a felony.”
6. Colorado Secretary of State Wayne Williams, a Republican, in a statement, said: “Voter fraud is rare…”
7. Mississippi Secretary of State Delbert Hosemann, a Republican, said: “We don’t have [voter fraud]... We think we do it right.”
8. Nevada Secretary of State Barbara Cegavske, a Republican, said: “There is no evidence of voters illegally casting ballots at the most recent election in Nevada...”
9. Rhode Island Secretary of State Nellie Gorbea, a Democrat, said: “It is outrageous that the President continues to make unsubstantiated claims about alleged widespread voter fraud.”
10. Washington Secretary of State Kim Wyman, a Republican, said: “…as I stated when [Trump] raised this issue last fall, I am confident the election system in Washington state is secure and prevents illegal voting.”
11. Oregon Secretary of State Dennis Richardson, a Republican, wrote in a letter to Trump: “I'm pleased to report that in Oregon we have reviewed the processes and we are confident that voter fraud in last November's election did not occur in Oregon.” He also encouraged Trump to “return full authority over elections to the states.”
12. Former West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie Tennant, a Democrat, tweeted: “there has been no evidence of millions of illegal votes.”
13. Connecticut Secretary of State Denise Merrill, a Democrat, said: “To claim, without a shred of evidence, that millions of ‘illegal votes’ were cast does nothing but undermine people’s confidence in democracy...”
14. Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander, a Democrat, called Trump’s claim “a lie” and said “there is absolutely no reason” to think that fraud occurred in the most recent election.
15. Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap, a Democrat, described voter fraud as “part of a national script” Republicans use to “make it harder for people to vote.”
16. Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson, a Republican, said: “I know of no widespread voter fraud...”
17. Vermont Secretary of State Jim Condos, a Democrat, in a statement: “...unsubstantiated voter fraud claims undermine our democracy and disparage the hundreds of thousands of hard-working election officials across our great nation.”
18. Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes, a Democrat, said: “President Trump’s assertion that millions of people voted illegally in the 2016 election is completely unsubstantiated...”
19. Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon, a Democrat, called the claims “false and irresponsible” and expressed concern that the comments “could have the dangerous effect of undermining confidence in the electoral system.”
20. Arizona Secretary of State Michele Reagan, a Republican, said her office “can say with… confidence that we didn’t have widespread voter fraud in Arizona.”
21. Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin, a Democrat, said that the allegations were “outrageous lies.”
22. Meredith Beatrice, a spokeswoman for Florida’s Secretary of State, said: “[We are] not aware of documented findings of illegal immigrants or non-citizens voting in Florida during the 2016 General Election. We have several safeguards in place to prevent elections fraud.”
23. Wanda Murren, a spokeswoman for the Pennsylvania Department of State, in an email: “We have no evidence at all of voter fraud. There is no evidence that undocumented immigrants voted in November.”
24. Nikki Charlson, Maryland State Board of Elections Deputy Administrator, said: “In Maryland we have had no coordinated effort to impact the outcome of the election...”
25. Erv Switzer, Chairman of the Saint Louis Board of Elections Commissioners, said: “We had absolutely no indication there were any fraudulent votes cast on November 8th and no indication of any fraudulent votes cast in any general election for a number of years.”
26. David Dove, chief of staff to Georgia’s Secretary of State, said: “We haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia...”
27. New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman wrote in a letter to Congress: “We did not receive a single substantiated claim of voter fraud… The lack of such complaints made directly to my office, as well as the absence of referrals from other agencies, leads me to conclude that voter fraud — the act of an ineligible individual casting a vote in an election—is a non-issue, at least in New York State.”
28. The National Association of Secretaries of State, in a press release, stated: “We are not aware of any evidence that supports the voter fraud claims made by President Trump… In the lead up to the November 2016 election, secretaries of state expressed their confidence in the systemic integrity of our election process as a bipartisan group, and they stand behind that statement today.”
29. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI), in response to Trump’s claims that millions of individuals illegally voted, said: “I’ve seen no evidence to that effect. I’ve made that very, very clear...
30. Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) said: “… I am begging the president, share with us the information you have about this or please stop saying it… As a matter of fact, I’d like you do more than stop saying it, I’d like you to come forward and say, ‘Having looked at it, I am confident the election was fair and accurate and people who voted voted legally.’ Cause if he doesn’t do that, this is going to undermine his ability to govern this country.” He added: “I would urge the president to knock this off; this is the greatest democracy on earth, we’re the leader of the free world, and people are going to start doubting you as a person if you keep making accusations against our electoral system without justification...”
31. Senator Jeff Flake (R-AZ), in response to Trump’s claims, said: “That doesn't do anybody any good. That doesn't help him. That doesn't help any of us...”
32. Congressman Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) said: “I don't see the evidence [of election fraud].”
33. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) said: “There's no evidence of [voter fraud] and I think that those who allege that have to come up with some substantiation of the claim...”
34. Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, a Republican, said: “I have no evidence whatsoever, and I don't know that anyone does, that there were that many illegal people who voted…”
35. Senator John Thune (R-SD), on the topic of voter fraud, said: “I haven't seen evidence to that effect.”
36. Congressman Adam Kinzinger (R-IL) said Trump’s claim of mass voter fraud “undermines the idea of an election.”
37. President of the New Hampshire Senate Chuck Morse, a Republican, said: “I have been assured by the secretary of state that our elections are good and clean.”
38. Deputy House Majority Whip Tom Cole (R-OK), former Oklahoma Secretary of State, said: “[Voter fraud] doesn't occur on a scale vast enough to change the outcome of the presidential election. So this system broadly renders the opinion of the American people. It's done so consistently for literally hundreds of years — I think it will do it again in three weeks...”
    
39. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA), in a debate, said: “Our elections may not always be completely perfect, but they are legitimate, they have integrity and everyone needs to respect the outcome.”
40. Senator Ben Sasse (R-NE), in a statement after the third presidential debate, said: “Talking about rigged elections with zero evidence is dangerous because it erodes trust without justification and kindles cynicism that undermines self-government.”
41. Speaker of the House Paul Ryan’s (R-WI) office released a statement in October saying he is “confident” the election will be carried out fairly.
42. Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted, a Republican, said the election system is “actually more secure than it’s ever been in our nation’s history.”

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Now you're trying to pass off the belief that politicians don't lie.

While you're at it why not claim the media isn't biased.

 

[rightwinger]

If any Independents are reading what you're posting, they can easily see you're lying, and if on the fence, they'll be there no longer.

Its just common sense. The more contact you have with the government, the greater the chances of you getting caught.

You are an illegal constantly looking over your shoulder. Your vote will be one of millions. Most Americans don’t give a shit about their vote....why would an illegal risk an offense that will get you jail and deportation?

 

[rightwinger]

Where are cons going to find young new recruits. Cons are dying off. They need illegal votes or repress voting to survive.

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Conservatives don't need young new recruits. Today's young libs will just naturally turn conservative as they age.

I was Conservative when I was young. I didn’t know any better
Then I saw what assholes they could be

 

[Billo_Really]

We've already done that. DACA proved that dems do not enforce any law that is opposed by illegals.

You haven't provided jack shit of proof! And DACA recipients are people that have been living here as Americans for years. And they are certainly better Americans than you are. But hey, look at the bright side, you do make a fine German.

 

[Billo_Really]

You are an illegal constantly looking over your shoulder. Your vote will be one of millions. Most Americans don’t give a shit about their vote....why would an illegal risk an offense that will get you jail and deportation?

It's just common sense. If you have an expired tag on your car, do you speed up when cops are nearby? Do you run red lights in front of cops, when your car is not street legal? Your strategy is to limit your exposure to local authorities.

 

[LuckyDuck]

If the far-left could, they would send out voter ballots to all voting age individuals in China, North Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and Vietnam.

Voting age? Democrats should lower the voting age to 16, to get high school students involved in our political process. After all, in many states they can be criminally prosecuted as adults at 16, so why not treat them as adults.

Well, for one thing, the male pre-frontal cortex isn't fully formed until about the age of 23 to 25 years of age. This section of the brain is responsible for decision making and moderating social behavior. As such, mature decision making is somewhat hampered. That is not to say that there are some teens out there that can make a rational decision, but most tend to be swayed by their emotions, rather than analytical logic.

 

[MaryL]

It's foregone conclusion Illegals VOTE, it's inevitable given sanctuary cities/states and the inertia of that whole mindset. Which begs the question: WHY do we ( Who ever that is) allow this, and, WHO benefits from this (long or short term)?Not Americans, not us 99%, we 5th estaters (we are hurt by it, and we were never asked if we wanted to give illegal ALIENS Cart Blanche, either). So what is the imperative of giving sneaky Mexicans sanctuary from Federal Immigration laws? Let alone SANCTARY?

 

[oreo]

With his DACA and DAPA programs Obozo gave millions of these criminal invaders a certificate telling them they can live and work here even though the LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO NEITHER!!! And yet democrats tell us they were strict about enforcing the laws against illegals voting. HAHAHAHA

Obama ENCOURAGED the illegals to vote both 2012 and 16 and they did by the millions. It's extremely important to an illegal that the open borders and welfare party be in power. They undoubtedly vote at a higher rate than citizens do.

Ever hear of a green card?--- That does allow them to work and live in this country. in fact it is carried & renewed until they receive their citizenshp papers. Someone with a green card cannot vote.

No illegal is stupid enough to walk into a voting precinct, and risk facing immediate deportation just so they can cast a single vote dumbass.

Now they did catch 2 Trump supporters for trying to vote twice in 2016.

Iowa woman charged with voting twice for Trump pleads guilty

Texas man arrested for attempting to vote twice

Who knows maybe they're married--& both of them together came up with half a brain.-- And since it was Trump that was campaigning on a rigged election,and claiming "that you don't know if they're counting your mail in ballot"--the first thing I would check would be multiple registrations on Trump voters to insure that others weren't as stupid as the two above.

 

[Faun]

With his DACA and DAPA programs Obozo gave millions of these criminal invaders a certificate telling them they can live and work here even though the LAW SAYS THEY CAN DO NEITHER!!! And yet democrats tell us they were strict about enforcing the laws against illegals voting. HAHAHAHA

Obama ENCOURAGED the illegals to vote both 2012 and 16 and they did by the millions. It's extremely important to an illegal that the open borders and welfare party be in power. They undoubtedly vote at a higher rate than citizens do.

No illegal is stupid enough to walk into a voting precinct, and risk facing immediate deportation just so they can cast a single vote dumbass.

In California, no less, where the Democrat is going to win by 4 million votes.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

You are an illegal constantly looking over your shoulder. Your vote will be one of millions. Most Americans don’t give a shit about their vote....why would an illegal risk an offense that will get you jail and deportation?

That's where you're wrong. Most illegals care intensely about their vote since it is critical to them that democrats be in power. They want politicians who support open borders and welfare.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

MaryL, post: 19712201

It's foregone conclusion Illegals VOTE

It is a crime for a non-citizen to vote. There is no forgone conclusion that non-citizens vote. Trumpo's lies put 3,000,000 potential 'suspects' In front of drooling Republicans in every state who would love to prove Trumpo's improper false charges were true. They can't because illegals do not vote.

You want to be a respectable American? Quit accusing people of committing a crime without proof beyond a reasonable doubt. You know - innocent until proven guilty.

If criminal voters are registered to vote in any state, as Florida did, any state can cross check registered voters against citizenship records.

No match - no vote.

 

[ShootSpeeders]

It is a crime for a non-citizen to vote. .

It is a crime for then to live here and yet 40 million do and nothing is done about it. They vote by the millions and everyone knows it. THINK