Does anyone seriously believe illegals do NOT vote in america!!???

The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically valid difference?)



See if this helps:


1. How's this....LA Times:

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two


2. "It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!



3. California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015
Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/

4. "... there is evidence that both foreign nationals who are lawfully present in the United States and illegal aliens have voted in recent elections. During this election cycle, noncitizens have been discovered on voter registration rolls in both Virginia and Pennsylvania. 2 And the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of New York recently announced that it charged a Canadian woman with making a false claim to citizenship after she registered and voted in more than 20 elections.3

Several past elections – for the presidency and other offices – have been extremely close. Accordingly, ballots cast by noncitizen voters have the potential to improperly alter the outcome of elections. Consider how close the 2000 presidential election was.
Could the outcome have been affected by noncitizen voting? The answer is yes."
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections


5. "Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration."

Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

6. "Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

7. "Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats And Illegal Immigration
… a leaked document from the Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund shows what most of us have always known, but what Democrats like to pretend isn’t their reality.

Namely, the memo, in great detail, maps out how Democrats are relying on illegal immigration to prop up their political future.

“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” reads Palmieri’s memo,…” Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats and Illegal Immigration

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote


9. "WASHINGTON – California will take the next step in blurring the lines between citizens and non-citizens beginning April Fool’s Day when the state complies with a court order to begin automatically registering to vote all those who are granted driver’s licenses.

The state has long provided driver’s licenses to all who simply claimed, without proof, that they were citizens of in the country legally. There were no checks made or documentation required.

But beginning April 1 every person who gets a California driver’s license will be automatically entitled to vote.

...under a program dubbed the California New Motor Voter Act. Signed into law in October 2015, the new statute requires the DMV to forward records for all eligible applicants to the Secretary of State’s Office for registration unless those applicants elect not to register to vote."
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically"
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically

9. "Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers. "
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review



10. "More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses"
More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received driver's licenses, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday.

Assembly Bill 60, authored by then-Assemblyman Luis Alejo in 2013, required California DMV offices to issue driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants as long as they can prove their identity and residence within the state. The law has led to 1,001,000 undocumented immigrants receiving licenses as of March 31 ...."
More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses


Will Hussein Obama return in to tell 'em all to go out and vote, as he did in 2016????


You betcha'!!!!!
You have presented no solid evidence of substantive Illegal Voting.

You merely serve-up speculation on potential.

A handful of isolated cases in West Virginia and Pennsylvania are hardly the basis for statistical significance.

Sorry.
I presented video proof. You simply ignore it like all regressive liars do.
You lied as usual
A doctored video is not proof
 
The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

Maybe he did... maybe he didn't... doesn't matter, other than serving as a distraction...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically significant difference? )
Any illegal voting is probably because they thought they could and nobody stoped them

There is zero evidence of widespread voter fraud
What evidence will you accept?
 
The question is not whether Obumble tried to get Illegal Aliens to vote...

The two questions raised by the OP are...

1. Is there substantive evidence of Illegal Aliens actually voting?

2. If 'yes', then, what was the extent of that illegal voting? *

( * translation: did it actually tip the scales or make a substantial or statistically valid difference?)



See if this helps:


1. How's this....LA Times:

"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two


2. "It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes.
.... if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election."

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California


Think California is loaded with illegal alien voters??????

You betcha'!!!!



3. California has the largest number of illegal immigrants in the United States, with an estimated 2.4 million unauthorized immigrants making up about 6.3 percent of the state's total population, according to the Pew Research Center.Sep 14, 2015
Illegal Immigration Statistics in California - Newsmax.com
www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/illegal-immigration-California/2015/09/14/.../691462/

4. "... there is evidence that both foreign nationals who are lawfully present in the United States and illegal aliens have voted in recent elections. During this election cycle, noncitizens have been discovered on voter registration rolls in both Virginia and Pennsylvania. 2 And the Office of the U.S. Attorney for the Western District of New York recently announced that it charged a Canadian woman with making a false claim to citizenship after she registered and voted in more than 20 elections.3

Several past elections – for the presidency and other offices – have been extremely close. Accordingly, ballots cast by noncitizen voters have the potential to improperly alter the outcome of elections. Consider how close the 2000 presidential election was.
Could the outcome have been affected by noncitizen voting? The answer is yes."
Noncitizens, Voting Violations and U.S. Elections


5. "Study supports Trump: 5.7 million noncitizens may have cast illegal votes
A research group in New Jersey has taken a fresh look at postelection polling data and concluded that the number of noncitizens voting illegally in U.S. elections is likely far greater than previous estimates.

As many as 5.7 million noncitizens may have voted in the 2008 election, which put Barack Obama in the White House.

The research organization Just Facts, a widely cited, independent think tank led by self-described conservatives and libertarians, revealed its number-crunching in a report on national immigration."

Noncitizen illegal vote number higher than estimated

6. "Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote

“It has come to our attention that when offering voter registration opportunities to customers, DMV’s employees offer voter registration materials to DMV customers whom they know to be non-citizens based upon their presentation of a Green Card for identification purposes,” Cegavske wrote."

7. "Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats And Illegal Immigration
… a leaked document from the Center For American Progress (CAP) Action Fund shows what most of us have always known, but what Democrats like to pretend isn’t their reality.

Namely, the memo, in great detail, maps out how Democrats are relying on illegal immigration to prop up their political future.

“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” reads Palmieri’s memo,…” Leaked Memo Confirms What We Already Knew About Democrats and Illegal Immigration

“More specifically, it is our understanding that some DMV employees have been instructed to accept registration materials from all customers, including those who present a Green Card for identification purposes…"
Nevada Sec. State: DMV Instructed Employees To Register Non-Citizens To Vote


9. "WASHINGTON – California will take the next step in blurring the lines between citizens and non-citizens beginning April Fool’s Day when the state complies with a court order to begin automatically registering to vote all those who are granted driver’s licenses.

The state has long provided driver’s licenses to all who simply claimed, without proof, that they were citizens of in the country legally. There were no checks made or documentation required.

But beginning April 1 every person who gets a California driver’s license will be automatically entitled to vote.

...under a program dubbed the California New Motor Voter Act. Signed into law in October 2015, the new statute requires the DMV to forward records for all eligible applicants to the Secretary of State’s Office for registration unless those applicants elect not to register to vote."
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically"
Major state to register illegal aliens to vote – automatically

9. "Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote
Thanks to a new poll, we now know that approximately 13% of illegal aliens vote. Since they are already criminals, stealing ID’s or using phony ID’s. lie to get welfare, steal jobs—why not vote as they to lose. Since they can not be deported or jailed, they have nothing to lose. Obama is protecting these law breakers. "
Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review



10. "More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses"
More than 1 million undocumented immigrants have received driver's licenses, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday.

Assembly Bill 60, authored by then-Assemblyman Luis Alejo in 2013, required California DMV offices to issue driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants as long as they can prove their identity and residence within the state. The law has led to 1,001,000 undocumented immigrants receiving licenses as of March 31 ...."
More than a million undocumented immigrants have received California driver's licenses


Will Hussein Obama return in to tell 'em all to go out and vote, as he did in 2016????


You betcha'!!!!!
You have presented no solid evidence of substantive Illegal Voting.

You merely serve-up speculation on potential.

A handful of isolated cases in West Virginia and Pennsylvania are hardly the basis for statistical significance.

Sorry.
I presented video proof. You simply ignore it like all regressive liars do.
You lied as usual
A doctored video is not proof
Another false claim. Who doctored it liar?
 
the facts are iin the videos and the signs.

There are no facts in those signs. What the hell are you talking about?

How do you deduce that a sign in Spanish posted at polling place means that anyone that reads it must be voting illegally?
 
miketx, post: 19674476
What evidence will you accept?

Something like this except involving a non-citizen.

March 28, 2018 08:50 PM


FORT WORTH
A judge sentenced a Rendon woman to five years in prison Wednesday for voting illegally in the 2016 presidential election while she was on supervised release from a 2011 fraud conviction.

Tarrant County woman sentenced to five years in prison for illegally voting in 2016

It's an arrest and conviction. Don't need conviction. Any arrest of a non citizen voting in 2016 will do.

You and Trump say millions of non citizens voted in 2016. You'd think you could find one arrest as a matter of public record.
 
miketx, post: 19674476
What evidence will you accept?

Something like this except involving a non-citizen.

March 28, 2018 08:50 PM


FORT WORTH
A judge sentenced a Rendon woman to five years in prison Wednesday for voting illegally in the 2016 presidential election while she was on supervised release from a 2011 fraud conviction.

Tarrant County woman sentenced to five years in prison for illegally voting in 2016

It's an arrest and conviction. Don't need conviction. Any arrest of a non citizen voting in 2016 will do.

You and Trump say millions of non citizens voted in 2016. You'd think you could find one arrest as a matter of public record.
When the democrat criminals refuse to enforce the laws, no arrests are made. When bath house barry says they can vote, they do. Look at how democrat criminals refused to arrest cruz in Florida.
 
PoliticalChic, post: 19674361
4.He goes on to make this bald faced lie: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"

How is that not true since he said it to a US citizen asking if her 'legal' vote could cause repercussions for people she knew that did not have legal status.

Obama told a legal citizen to vote and have nothing to fear.

And what you do is lie about it being filled with so much hate and deprived of honesty.


Stop lying.

She made it clear she was asking as an illegal alien.


1. Referring to illegal aliens, she begins :"I call them citizens because they contribute to the country."

Of course, that is not what makes one a citizen...is it.


2. The young lady continues as if with the voice of the illegal...'If I vote, will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family..."

Now, if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'






Answer the question: ....if she were speaking of a legal citizen....there would be no reason to suggest anyone 'would come for them.'
 
miketx, post: 19674476
What evidence will you accept?

Something like this except involving a non-citizen.

March 28, 2018 08:50 PM


FORT WORTH
A judge sentenced a Rendon woman to five years in prison Wednesday for voting illegally in the 2016 presidential election while she was on supervised release from a 2011 fraud conviction.

Tarrant County woman sentenced to five years in prison for illegally voting in 2016

It's an arrest and conviction. Don't need conviction. Any arrest of a non citizen voting in 2016 will do.

You and Trump say millions of non citizens voted in 2016. You'd think you could find one arrest as a matter of public record.
When the democrat criminals refuse to enforce the laws, no arrests are made. When bath house barry says they can vote, they do. Look at how democrat criminals refused to arrest cruz in Florida.
Then fix it.

Send the Illegal Beaners home.

Crucify those who facilitated widespread illegal voting.

But until you have the evidence to support your claims of widespread illegal voting, it's a moot and contested point.
 





















@3:25 she actually says "Many of the millennials, dreamers, UNDOCUMENTED citizens....and I call them citizens because they contribute to the country....are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live, will they come for my family and deport us? ..."

Without missing a beat, Obama the liar resonds "not true. "(@3:38)

Hey....any 'cutting of the video'????

No?


Contiunuing @ 3:42, Obama lies: "When you vote you are a citizen yourself"

Hey....any 'cutting of the video'????

No?




Ooooo,,,,you poor, sad, ugly thing.....look how you just proved exactly what I've said!

And I did it with your video!!!!


Continuing, @3:46 Obama says "there is not a situation where the voting rolls are somehow transferred over, and people start investigating...."

Hey....any 'cutting of the video'????

No?


30 seconds.....exactly what I've posted and your 'original video' proves!!!!!


I win again!


So....you've been lying all along, huh?

She asks if UNDOCUMENTED aliens can vote...will they be caught and deported....Obama says 'no way'....you're a citizen if if you're illegal!!!!

And not a smidgen of 'cutting' of the video!!!!!



Oh.....and the video you claimed "cut"????


Here it is....same 30 seconds:





-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Exact text here:

Did Obama Encourage Illegal Immigrants to Vote? No, But YES.
 
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miketx, post: 19674476
What evidence will you accept?

Something like this except involving a non-citizen.

March 28, 2018 08:50 PM


FORT WORTH
A judge sentenced a Rendon woman to five years in prison Wednesday for voting illegally in the 2016 presidential election while she was on supervised release from a 2011 fraud conviction.

Tarrant County woman sentenced to five years in prison for illegally voting in 2016

It's an arrest and conviction. Don't need conviction. Any arrest of a non citizen voting in 2016 will do.

You and Trump say millions of non citizens voted in 2016. You'd think you could find one arrest as a matter of public record.
When the democrat criminals refuse to enforce the laws, no arrests are made. When bath house barry says they can vote, they do. Look at how democrat criminals refused to arrest cruz in Florida.
Then fix it.

Send the Illegal Beaners home.

Crucify those who facilitated widespread illegal voting.

But until you have the evidence to support your claims of widespread illegal voting, it's a moot and contested point.
We are trying to fix it. We elected Trump and he is trying to, but you criminals try to stop him at every turn.
 
miketx, post: 19674527
When the democrat criminals refuse to enforce the laws, no arrests are made.

Is it your belief that all prosecutors in America are Democrat criminals? Where are the Republicans?

Do you know that illegals voted in your precinct? Maybe you couid start where the Spanish language signs are posted and get your Congressman to investigate non citizen voting right in your backyard.

It's much easier to lie about it on a message board isn't it.

Proof Schmoof sort of thing right?
 

Well then you get your ass right back over to WesternJournal with Chic - They're "truth" is AWESOME!!
 
What with bath house barry telling them they can vote, what would you expect?


“When you vote, you are citizen”

It’s incredible how anyone could have voted for that idiot.
Remember when he said this?.......


smh


Its incredible how anyone coudl have voted for this idiot

Remember when he said this:


I’ll vote for a guy who likes pussy over a dick lover who doesn’t even know how many states we have.


Of course you will vote for the guy who brags about sexually assaulting women.

Who doesn't even know what a birth certificate is.
 

Well then you get your ass right back over to WesternJournal with Chic - They're "truth" is AWESOME!!
You’ll eventually learn as you mature.
 

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