Does AOC know $15 minimum wage in states like Mississippi will put people out of work?

[danielpalos]

y'all have nothing but fallacy and want to be taken seriously; only bigotry can make that happen.

You are the ignorant bigot that can’t communicate in English. When you can post coherently let me know, so far you haven’t ever done that, get a clue. If you want to get your ideas across, you need to learn to post facts, and theories that you can have people relate to. I see no reason or way that universal wage would ever work and spouting your mantra over and over isn’t an argument, it’s just noise.

only bigots, say that.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment for our first world economy.

only the morally challenged right wing has a problem with minimum wages not maximum wages.

Dumb dumb, I never said a minimum wage is bad, I disagree with the $15 wage. Hell, Finland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway have no minimum wage. Looks like those socialistic governments are bigots and morally challenged. Funny how you addressed nothing in my post, which proves what I said. Thank you!

Those nations have better social services than the US. Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States can solve simple poverty and end our homeless problem.

Funny how the right wing only wants to promote the general malfare instead of the general welfare.

Name which country has that option.

name which country has an alleged war on illegals to our own laws, with no express immigration clause.

 

[danielpalos]

i try to dumb it down enough for the right wing. it doesn't always work.

You you think you are superior to others, that is the real issue. You dumbed it down so much that only you understand your stupidity. What’s worse is you agree with your own stupidity.

only bigots say that. you need more than gossip to convince me. Men have arguments.

And only bigots and racist say that! Wow, you are a racist and a bigot, thanks for the admission. And again you prove my point.

i am not practicing bigotry; i just need to win my arguments to be superior to you. gossip is not any form of argument. Men have arguments, wo-men may not.

You haven’t any facts, you are a bigot.

i have valid arguments like Men do.

 

[Papageorgio]

You are the ignorant bigot that can’t communicate in English. When you can post coherently let me know, so far you haven’t ever done that, get a clue. If you want to get your ideas across, you need to learn to post facts, and theories that you can have people relate to. I see no reason or way that universal wage would ever work and spouting your mantra over and over isn’t an argument, it’s just noise.

only bigots, say that.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment for our first world economy.

only the morally challenged right wing has a problem with minimum wages not maximum wages.

Dumb dumb, I never said a minimum wage is bad, I disagree with the $15 wage. Hell, Finland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway have no minimum wage. Looks like those socialistic governments are bigots and morally challenged. Funny how you addressed nothing in my post, which proves what I said. Thank you!

Those nations have better social services than the US. Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States can solve simple poverty and end our homeless problem.

Funny how the right wing only wants to promote the general malfare instead of the general welfare.

Name which country has that option.

name which country has an alleged war on illegals to our own laws, with no express immigration clause.

Please answer my question.

 

[danielpalos]

Employment is at the will of either party in our at-will employment States.

Only the right wing believes in being illegal to our own laws, while blaming less fortunate illegals for their illegalities.

 

[dblack]

only bigots, say that.

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment for our first world economy.

only the morally challenged right wing has a problem with minimum wages not maximum wages.

Dumb dumb, I never said a minimum wage is bad, I disagree with the $15 wage. Hell, Finland, Denmark, Sweden and Norway have no minimum wage. Looks like those socialistic governments are bigots and morally challenged. Funny how you addressed nothing in my post, which proves what I said. Thank you!

Those nations have better social services than the US. Equal protection of the law for unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed in our at-will employment States can solve simple poverty and end our homeless problem.

Funny how the right wing only wants to promote the general malfare instead of the general welfare.

Name which country has that option.

name which country has an alleged war on illegals to our own laws, with no express immigration clause.

Please answer my question.

He's never going to. Daniel is a drugged out troll. You'll never get anything out of him other than cryptic nonsense.

 

[danielpalos]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

 

[Papageorgio]

You you think you are superior to others, that is the real issue. You dumbed it down so much that only you understand your stupidity. What’s worse is you agree with your own stupidity.

only bigots say that. you need more than gossip to convince me. Men have arguments.

And only bigots and racist say that! Wow, you are a racist and a bigot, thanks for the admission. And again you prove my point.

i am not practicing bigotry; i just need to win my arguments to be superior to you. gossip is not any form of argument. Men have arguments, wo-men may not.

You haven’t any facts, you are a bigot.

i have valid arguments like Men do.

Good grief saying you have a valid argument, isn’t a valid argument. You won’t explain your position, you don’t clarify your position, so 90% of the time I have no clue what your argument is.

 

[rightwinger]

Not too stupid to decide but forced into a take it or leave it decision

If a business forces someone to take a job against their will, we should prosecute them and put the responsible parties in jail. No arbitrary regulations on wages are required, just simple laws against bullying and coercion. But that's not really what you're talking about, is it?

Of course not
People with other options are not bullied by take it or leave it offers

Those with low skills have few options. Employers can easily manipulate them in to accepting minimum wage

Huh???

Can you give me a more concrete example? Offering someone a job doesn't seem like bullying to me.

Is this that inside-out conception of coercion, that liberals sometimes entertain, where if someone doesn't do what you want, they're "bullying" you?

They are offering a wage that hasn’t increased in ten years

How is that bullying? Are they forcing them to accept it?

Nope...but they have no other choice

That is why we need a mandated minimum wage

 

[protectionist]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

I'm right wing, I get it. Here's some of the MW items most people never mention ---
1. Increase in Disposable Income
2. Increase in Sales
3. Layoffs create losses
4. Many companies pay only commissions
5. Some companies have no employees
6. Many companies pay all employees $15/he or more
7. For companies in 4, 5, 6, MW raise represents increased sales/income

 

[dblack]

How is that bullying? Are they forcing them to accept it?

Nope.

Ok, good. Earlier you said they were forced into it. Glad you acknowledge that that's not true.

...but they have no other choice

Of course they do. There's always another choice. They might not have all the choices they'd like - none of us do - but they still have a choice. No one is forced to accept a low wage job.

This really does come back to the modern liberal conceit of "economic coercion" - which is a farce. By their reasoning, everyone who has ever purchased something, or decided not to, has engaged in "economic coercion". It's bullshit. Just a wedge to give more and more power to government.

 

[rightwinger]

If a business forces someone to take a job against their will, we should prosecute them and put the responsible parties in jail. No arbitrary regulations on wages are required, just simple laws against bullying and coercion. But that's not really what you're talking about, is it?

Of course not
People with other options are not bullied by take it or leave it offers

Those with low skills have few options. Employers can easily manipulate them in to accepting minimum wage

Huh???

Can you give me a more concrete example? Offering someone a job doesn't seem like bullying to me.

Is this that inside-out conception of coercion, that liberals sometimes entertain, where if someone doesn't do what you want, they're "bullying" you?

They are offering a wage that hasn’t increased in ten years[/QUOTE]

How is that bullying? Are they forcing them to accept it?[/QUOTE]

Nope.[/quote]
Ok, good. Earlier you said they were forced into it. Glad you acknowledge that that's not true.

...but they have no other choice

Of course they do. There's always another choice. They might have all the choices they'd like - none of us do - but they still have a choice. No one is forced to accept a low wage job.

This really does come back to the modern liberal conceit of "economic coercion" - which is a farce. By their reasoning, everyone who has ever purchased something, or decided not to, has engaged in "economic coercion". It's bullshit. Just a wedge to give more and more power to government.[/QUOTE]
Take it or leave it is the choice

 

[WEATHER53]

Employment is at the will of either party in our at-will employment States.

Only the right wing believes in being illegal to our own laws, while blaming less fortunate illegals for their illegalities.

Blaming illegal acts on the illegal doing it
That’s emotionally horrid while factually correct.

 

[danielpalos]

only bigots say that. you need more than gossip to convince me. Men have arguments.

And only bigots and racist say that! Wow, you are a racist and a bigot, thanks for the admission. And again you prove my point.

i am not practicing bigotry; i just need to win my arguments to be superior to you. gossip is not any form of argument. Men have arguments, wo-men may not.

You haven’t any facts, you are a bigot.

i have valid arguments like Men do.

Good grief saying you have a valid argument, isn’t a valid argument. You won’t explain your position, you don’t clarify your position, so 90% of the time I have no clue what your argument is.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a simple cost of living adjustment; unemployment is natural under capitalism and we resort to the socialism of equality and equal protection of the law to correct for that inefficiency of capitalism, for the greater social good and to promote the general welfare.

 

[danielpalos]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

I'm right wing, I get it. Here's some of the MW items most people never mention ---
1. Increase in Disposable Income
2. Increase in Sales
3. Layoffs create losses
4. Many companies pay only commissions
5. Some companies have no employees
6. Many companies pay all employees $15/he or more
7. For companies in 4, 5, 6, MW raise represents increased sales/income

a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage is a capital incentive for increased market participation.

our First World costs, Labor needs a first world minimum wage to be able to pay for it.

we need an upward pressure on wages to beat inflation.

 

[danielpalos]

Employment is at the will of either party in our at-will employment States.

Only the right wing believes in being illegal to our own laws, while blaming less fortunate illegals for their illegalities.

Blaming illegal acts on the illegal doing it
That’s emotionally horrid while factually correct.

we have a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at the will of either party.

there is no express immigration clause. that is the social difference.

 

[WEATHER53]

The myth is that your employment is Supposed to support you fully. That’s not what it’s there for, to make you utterly free and self sustaining. Based on your skills, you may have to rent a room. Employment is not designed to get you a house nor even a one bedroom apartment all to yourself
Again, AOC is the generation of personal comforts rather than personal achievements resisting the realities that achievement does, or may not, provide.

 

[WEATHER53]

Employment is at the will of either party in our at-will employment States.

Only the right wing believes in being illegal to our own laws, while blaming less fortunate illegals for their illegalities.

Blaming illegal acts on the illegal doing it
That’s emotionally horrid while factually correct.

we have a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the legal concept of employment at the will of either party.

there is no express immigration clause. that is the social difference.

Immigration laws, not clauses

 

[dblack]

Take it or leave it is the choice

Right. And free people have the right to make that choice. Government has no business overruling their decision.

 

[Papageorgio]

i am working on dumbing it down for the right wing. they never get it.

There you go, more bigotry, all you do is keep proving me right about you. Thank you!

 

[protectionist]

If you can’t make a profit without workers making no more than $7.25 an hour, you don’t belong in business

Correct. Wages are a component of livelihood for millions of people. Too important to be left simply to the whims of employers. Pay a decent wage or stay out of business, and do what all the rest of us do - Get a Job.