Donald Trump is finally realising that you cannot run the US government like a business

[rightwinger]

Different worlds.....different rules
Different economics

Some yes, some no. But with politicians, the focus is to win elections and to hell with the country. In business, the goal is for the business to be successful.

Trump put a hiring and wage freeze on federal workers. So it seems, he doesn't care much for bureaucracies either. The elimination of at least half of those would be very beneficial for the country. This is the business mentality: eliminate waste.

Once again demonstrating a simplistic mentality of Trump

Rather than look at the Federal organization and see what is critical and what is superfluous......he just slaps on a hiring freeze

How many good workers went elsewhere because of Trumps arbitrary freeze?
How were organizations like the VA, which Trump said was his first priority affected by the freeze

Declaring the entire Federal Government unnecessary is not a solution

Nobody said the entire federal government, just the wasteful people that really don't do anything.

We had a couple of government shutdowns the last 20 years. Did anybody die? Was anybody denied emergency help? Did anybody really even notice?

We have heard that for decades.....the thinking that there is a huge pot of waste waiting to get cut

Unwarranted Government shutdowns is waste. The last one cost $26 billion.
You just kick things down the road and pay for them later.

/--- Yet Dems shut down the Gubmint many times when Regan was president. Where is your fake outrage over that?

I was working for the government under Reagan

You can bet your ass I was outraged

 

[Rustic]

This is what career politicians has given us... not so great


U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

$128 trillion national assets with $20 trillion debt

You're sadly mistaken, 200+ trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities 20+ debt.

That $200 trillion is Social Security and Medicare that will be paid by future taxpayers. It is unfunded in our budget, but the mechanism is there to pay it

Many more are taking out than putting in already...

 

[Rustic]

The federal government has been run NOT like a business for many, many decades… It's been a failure.
Career Politicians can't run anything right... fact

What the fuck are you talking about? You seriously can FIND NOTHING in this great country that government deals with that is run right?

Our economy is not the best in the world?
Our military is not the best on the world?
SS/Medicare/Medicaid is not run right? The checks do not come in on time?

When you start out with idiotic premise you end up supporting idiotic solutions. Putting into White House impulsive man-child blowhard with zero government experience is a perfect example.

Albert Einstein said doing the same old thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity…

 

[Rustic]

This is what career politicians has given us... not so great


U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

$128 trillion national assets with $20 trillion debt

You're sadly mistaken, 200+ trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities 20+ debt.

That $200 trillion is Social Security and Medicare that will be paid by future taxpayers. It is unfunded in our budget, but the mechanism is there to pay it

Pay it with what? There isn't even 200 trillion in the entire country.

Same way we have paid it for 75 years....out of future payroll taxes

More are already taking out than putting in...

 

[elektra]

The biggest lesson of the last year, that Liberals are a dying breed, losing election after election. And after losing, they still have yet another lesson to learn, don't believe your own lies. Trump is doing fine, the Republicans are doing fine. Democrats on the other hand control about 5 states, no more. Goodbye Democrats, I wish I could say it was fun but you jerks have destroyed so much.

If you believe this you're living in fantasy world. Which doesn't surprise me as many seem to be anyway.

It is not a matter of belief, since Obama took office, how many states are Democrat controlled? 5? Maybe 6? Do Democrats control the government. Democrats are a dying breed, and after Trump is successful, running our country like a business. More young people will jump on board, with Trump. Nobody likes losers and Democrats have been losing a long time. Detroit and Flint Michigan are great examples. Little towns all across New England are also great examples. Young people flee these Democratic hell holes.

 

[elektra]

trump doing fine???the whole WH is in an uproar, turning on each other ,,worst president with a cabinet that has no idea how to run a gov't,,,and you say he's doing fine ? Going to drop sanctions against Russia in payment for Russia not spreading the dirt about him ? Fine? only in a demented republicans mind

The whole White House is in an uproar? Who, the cleaning staff? We see how Obama ran the government, by dictate, the result, Iran is building Nuclear Weapons and our relations with Russia are at an all time low? And there are sanctions against Russia, why? Because they interfered with the election? You are delusional.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This is what career politicians has given us... not so great


U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

$128 trillion national assets with $20 trillion debt

You're sadly mistaken, 200+ trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities 20+ debt.

That $200 trillion is Social Security and Medicare that will be paid by future taxpayers. It is unfunded in our budget, but the mechanism is there to pay it

Pay it with what? There isn't even 200 trillion in the entire country.

Same way we have paid it for 75 years....out of future payroll taxes

That's like saying you're going to use your credit card to buy $300.00 of merchandise, and you'll pay for it out of your checking account that only has $100.00 in it, but you add $10.00 to it every month.

The money isn't there and will never be there because there isn't enough money to go around. The only possible way to fund it is to borrow it and keep going further and further into debt.

 

[Rustic]

$128 trillion national assets with $20 trillion debt

You're sadly mistaken, 200+ trillion dollars of unfunded liabilities 20+ debt.

That $200 trillion is Social Security and Medicare that will be paid by future taxpayers. It is unfunded in our budget, but the mechanism is there to pay it

Pay it with what? There isn't even 200 trillion in the entire country.

Same way we have paid it for 75 years....out of future payroll taxes

That's like saying you're going to use your credit card to buy $300.00 of merchandise, and you'll pay for it out of your checking account that only has $100.00 in it, but you add $10.00 to it every month.

The money isn't there and will never be there because there isn't enough money to go around. The only possible way to fund it is to borrow it and keep going further and further into debt.

Yep,
Robbing peter to pay paul... basically we've turned into a banana republic. There's not enough money to pay the debt…

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The government has been run like an out of control and rudderless ship... and look where we are.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Some yes, some no. But with politicians, the focus is to win elections and to hell with the country. In business, the goal is for the business to be successful.

Trump put a hiring and wage freeze on federal workers. So it seems, he doesn't care much for bureaucracies either. The elimination of at least half of those would be very beneficial for the country. This is the business mentality: eliminate waste.

Once again demonstrating a simplistic mentality of Trump

Rather than look at the Federal organization and see what is critical and what is superfluous......he just slaps on a hiring freeze

How many good workers went elsewhere because of Trumps arbitrary freeze?
How were organizations like the VA, which Trump said was his first priority affected by the freeze

Declaring the entire Federal Government unnecessary is not a solution

Nobody said the entire federal government, just the wasteful people that really don't do anything.

We had a couple of government shutdowns the last 20 years. Did anybody die? Was anybody denied emergency help? Did anybody really even notice?

We have heard that for decades.....the thinking that there is a huge pot of waste waiting to get cut

Unwarranted Government shutdowns is waste. The last one cost $26 billion.
You just kick things down the road and pay for them later.

/--- Yet Dems shut down the Gubmint many times when Regan was president. Where is your fake outrage over that?

I was working for the government under Reagan

You can bet your ass I was outraged

Please tell us, how much money did you lose in any gubmint shutdown?

 

[there4eyeM]

The government has been run like an out of control and rudderless ship... and look where we are.

With the two-party dictatorship at the helm.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The biggest lesson of the last year, that Liberals are a dying breed, losing election after election. And after losing, they still have yet another lesson to learn, don't believe your own lies. Trump is doing fine, the Republicans are doing fine. Democrats on the other hand control about 5 states, no more. Goodbye Democrats, I wish I could say it was fun but you jerks have destroyed so much.

If you believe this you're living in fantasy world. Which doesn't surprise me as many seem to be anyway.

It is not a matter of belief, since Obama took office, how many states are Democrat controlled? 5? Maybe 6? Do Democrats control the government. Democrats are a dying breed, and after Trump is successful, running our country like a business. More young people will jump on board, with Trump. Nobody likes losers and Democrats have been losing a long time. Detroit and Flint Michigan are great examples. Little towns all across New England are also great examples. Young people flee these Democratic hell holes.

Yeah, just as

Holy shit, beef consumption CAUSES deaths by lightning.

Nicolas Cage causes there to be more female editors of the Harvard Law Review.

Margarine consumption in the US causes people in Maine to get divorced.

Mozzarella cheese helps people get civil engineering doctorates.

Yep, because two things look similar, therefore it MUST BE THE CASE, huh?

 

[elektra]

Yeah, just as

Holy shit, beef consumption CAUSES deaths by lightning.

Nicolas Cage causes there to be more female editors of the Harvard Law Review.

Margarine consumption in the US causes people in Maine to get divorced.

Mozzarella cheese helps people get civil engineering doctorates.

Yep, because two things look similar, therefore it MUST BE THE CASE, huh?

My post caused you to be stupid, amazing I say.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, just as

Holy shit, beef consumption CAUSES deaths by lightning.

Nicolas Cage causes there to be more female editors of the Harvard Law Review.

Margarine consumption in the US causes people in Maine to get divorced.

Mozzarella cheese helps people get civil engineering doctorates.

Yep, because two things look similar, therefore it MUST BE THE CASE, huh?

My post caused you to be stupid, amazing I say.

No, it caused you to insult. Well done.

 

[jillian]

The best moment Donald Trump has had in his tumultuous first three weeks in the White House was the nomination of Neil Gorsuch to the Supreme Court. The roll-out was pitch perfect.Trump for once was not over the top. And by common consent, Gorsuch is admirably qualified and a great guy. Now the President risks messing it all up.

Part of the problem is the almost vertical learning curve to which this most ignorant and least experienced president in history has inevitably been subjected. Mastery of Twitter is fine but it doesn’t cut the mustard. But the biggest problem, and the biggest lesson, is another. You can’t run the government like a business.


Trump is realising that you cannot run the US government like a business

he ran his own businesses like garbage.

that's why he went bankrupt 8 times

 

[elektra]

Yeah, just as

Holy shit, beef consumption CAUSES deaths by lightning.

Nicolas Cage causes there to be more female editors of the Harvard Law Review.

Margarine consumption in the US causes people in Maine to get divorced.

Mozzarella cheese helps people get civil engineering doctorates.

Yep, because two things look similar, therefore it MUST BE THE CASE, huh?

My post caused you to be stupid, amazing I say.

No, it caused you to insult. Well done.

As if your post was not meant to be insulting, get over yourself.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

he ran his own businesses like garbage.

that's why he went bankrupt 8 times

And that's why he's a billionaire.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yeah, just as

Holy shit, beef consumption CAUSES deaths by lightning.

Nicolas Cage causes there to be more female editors of the Harvard Law Review.

Margarine consumption in the US causes people in Maine to get divorced.

Mozzarella cheese helps people get civil engineering doctorates.

Yep, because two things look similar, therefore it MUST BE THE CASE, huh?

My post caused you to be stupid, amazing I say.

No, it caused you to insult. Well done.

As if your post was not meant to be insulting, get over yourself.

No, my post was designed to highlight the fact that just because two things seem to go together, that doesn't prove any cause or effect.

Just because Obama is president, doesn't mean that the Democrats losing state legislatures and governors had anything to do with him.

You have two things. Obama being president and you have Democrats doing badly in certain places. Is there a correlation between the two? Well if you're going to make that argument you're going to have to do better than "well, they're both true, so the first must cause the second", because as you can see from such charts, the first doesn't cause the second.

 

[frigidweirdo]

he ran his own businesses like garbage.

that's why he went bankrupt 8 times

And that's why he's a billionaire.

He started with loads of money, and he's been given at least $900 million from governments, he's also been given the chance to not pay tax in many areas. I mean, it'd take a real fuck job not to be a millionaire with that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

he ran his own businesses like garbage.

that's why he went bankrupt 8 times

And that's why he's a billionaire.

He started with loads of money, and he's been given at least $900 million from governments, he's also been given the chance to not pay tax in many areas. I mean, it'd take a real fuck job not to be a millionaire with that.

Very well, then take $10,000 and make it worth 20 times more. Then you can criticize.

900 millions from governments, I would assume you have a link to this claim.............