Don't forget why Trump was elected.

[sparky]

The Constitution Was a Coup d'État

Interesting perspective , in that view, we were the 'terrorists'....~S~

 

[Gdjjr]

Interesting perspective , in that view, we were the 'terrorists'

Were?

 

[sparky]

Interesting perspective , in that view, we were the 'terrorists'

Were?

>>>
Rothbard: The Constitution Was a Coup d'État | David Gordon

In regards to the then english rulers view Gdjjr, yet Rothbard goes on to explain how centralized government assumed what looks like a monarchy here.....i guess what comes around goes around.....~S~

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Interesting perspective , in that view, we were the 'terrorists'

Were?

>>>
Rothbard: The Constitution Was a Coup d'État | David Gordon

In regards to the then english rulers view Gdjjr, yet Rothbard goes on to explain how centralized government assumed what looks like a monarchy here.....i guess what comes around goes around.....~S~

Representation Is a Disguised Re-Presentation of All Previous Tyrannies

The Constitution established an elitist oligarchy. It was an anti-democratic manifesto written by lawyers for the 1%. The Bill of Rights (not included by the Framers) threw the disempowered 99% a bone, but it turned out to be a wishbone.

The fact that instead of only concentrating on whether proposed legislation would be good for the country, we first have to ask whether it is Constitutional shows that having a Constitutional overlord on our right to self-determination is not good for the country.

Pathetic bootlickers who drool over the ruling tyranny's Constitution claim that it establishes "wise stewards" over the people's will, yet these same loyal-serfs complain about all those politicians, which is cognitive dissonnance, a characteristic of all lying political bullies. Constitutionazis are inferior people who desperately need to feel superior to the majority. In a proud and intelligent country, all major issues would be legislated through national referendums.

 

[sparky]

Constitutionazis

ouch!

~S~

 

[sparky]

yet these same loyal-serfs complain about all those politicians, which is cognitive dissonnance, a characteristic of all lying political bullies

They are blind to the betrayal all around them.....all feel good rhetoric engineered for sorts that'll never be able to do the math.......with contrived denial shields...... it's fake news.....it's a liberals fault....it's socialism.....~S~

 

[Gdjjr]

The constitution represents a compromise- Federalist vs anti Federalist- The anti federalist got the BOR inserted otherwise it wouldn't have been ratified.
That said; IF (and that is a little word with a big meaning) there were virtuous men elected the experiment would have turned out differently- obviously virtuous men aren't drawn to politics or political capital-
That said; why do y'all think that to a man politicians don't do as promised- only one I know of did what I consider honorable as a politician- Davy Crockett decided not to try getting elected again: his reason being, he couldn't get done what he told his voters he would do, thus the infamous; You all may go to Hell, I'm gone to Texas.

 

[sparky]

So here we are 2020, the wingers have been getting farther apart , and each faction is all about quoting the FF's 'constitutional' take.

We even had one party dress in period attire....

These sorts keep me thinking we've a nation identity crisis

maybe we do

and maybe it hails back a lot farther in our history than we want to admit

~S~

 

[Gdjjr]

These sorts keep me thinking we've a nation identity crisis

maybe we do

Voters do for sure- TPTB not so much.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

yet these same loyal-serfs complain about all those politicians, which is cognitive dissonnance, a characteristic of all lying political bullies

They are blind to the betrayal all around them.....all feel good rhetoric engineered for sorts that'll never be able to do the math.......with contrived denial shields...... it's fake news.....it's a liberal's fault....it's socialism.....~S~

The Constitution Is an Ambidextrous Iron Fist

Both elitist sides are mortal enemies of Populist democracy. Your heroine, Lani Guinier, professor at Harvard Law, that castle of Preppy tyranny, wrote a snooty screed called The Tyranny of the Majority, that illustrates the entitled conceit of the Left branch of the Snob Mob.

If we had a democracy, the majority would nullify all the Liberal laws passed by the oligarchic republic since the 1960s. That includes the Voting Rights laws giving civil rights to the uncivilized minorities. People born in the White working class built this country, so only they should have political power.

 

[Gdjjr]

Your heroine,

Whose heroine?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Don't forget why Trump was elected.

Ok. I won't. What I will also do is remember that collectivist come in at least two stripes in US Politics (and several in religion)

"I" will survive, in spite of, if not to spite, the "group" (read herd) mentality.
The Individual is the one remembered, the one the stories are written about, songs sang about and lies told about....

This article believes Collectivism Will Lead to the Downfall of Man
My belief is: Joining a group is fine and dandy, as long the Individual realizes he no longer matters when belonging to the group.
At that point, one has relegated himself to being a tool or an enemy for an Individual to use as he sees fit. Sadly, Individuals refuse to acknowledge their ability to effect change on their own and feel like belonging to something bigger than they makes them more relevant- they also refuse to acknowledge that doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of crazy - it must be the other guys fault. for surely "I" can't be at fault since "I" belong to a group-
The author of the article is much more eloquent than I and much more verbose. I have written a book about "I" will survive though- not for publication, but for my descendants, so they can have a first hand look at recent History.

Rest assured, the "group" will not be remembered, nor the Party, nor the brand of religion whose acolytes (of both) prey on the seemingly inherent weakness of man (collectively) while making a liar of George Washington (an Individual).

It seems a shame that so many subscribe to an inherent weakness and won't subscribe to inherent Individual rights.
I've seen only one political ad that even used the word Liberty and that was describing Kevin McCarthy's voting record where his votes to protect or enhance Liberty are at 41%- Kevin McCarthy is a Republican calling himself conservative- a proud Trump supporter-

Excerpt from the article:
Collectivism, or herd mentality, can only lead to a meaningless life that is devoid of honest living, adventure, love, freedom, happiness, and fulfillment. Societal herds lose the ability to think as individuals, and envy and jealously become the primary driving force of thought. This of course leads to a demand for equality where none is available or warranted, and due to this pathetic psychological state, all that is beautiful and good must be destroyed in order to make room for the mediocre community.

This is the state of America today. This country is made up of groups that require consensus of thought and actions, and this inevitably leads to a hatred for individual intellect and individual independence. The larger the mob, the less important the individual, as uniformity takes hold over all that is unique. Any individual that relinquishes his individuality in order to conform to the group has lost all. Once the herd mentality sets in, the consciousness of self disappears, leaving only weakness and confusion. This state that is the crowd is worthless in every way, and mass despair is the result, as it tears down the exceptional.

Me, Myself, and Ayn

Pathetic and pompous attempt to imagine how superior you are and independent of the majority. You and the predatory idols you identify with want to champion individualism only so you can pick us off one by one. Your hereditary plutocratic business dictatorship is itself collectivist: the employers create all the revenue and the owner collects it all from them.

If you're not a union man, you're not a man at all. A scab is a gutless little brown-nosing traitor.

FUCK unions!!!!
They're for the weak and lazy.
I dont need a union to make my way in life,I let my work ethic do it for me.

 

[Ray9]

Don't forget why Trump was elected.

Ok. I won't. What I will also do is remember that collectivist come in at least two stripes in US Politics (and several in religion)

"I" will survive, in spite of, if not to spite, the "group" (read herd) mentality.
The Individual is the one remembered, the one the stories are written about, songs sang about and lies told about....

This article believes Collectivism Will Lead to the Downfall of Man
My belief is: Joining a group is fine and dandy, as long the Individual realizes he no longer matters when belonging to the group.
At that point, one has relegated himself to being a tool or an enemy for an Individual to use as he sees fit. Sadly, Individuals refuse to acknowledge their ability to effect change on their own and feel like belonging to something bigger than they makes them more relevant- they also refuse to acknowledge that doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of crazy - it must be the other guys fault. for surely "I" can't be at fault since "I" belong to a group-
The author of the article is much more eloquent than I and much more verbose. I have written a book about "I" will survive though- not for publication, but for my descendants, so they can have a first hand look at recent History.

Rest assured, the "group" will not be remembered, nor the Party, nor the brand of religion whose acolytes (of both) prey on the seemingly inherent weakness of man (collectively) while making a liar of George Washington (an Individual).

It seems a shame that so many subscribe to an inherent weakness and won't subscribe to inherent Individual rights.
I've seen only one political ad that even used the word Liberty and that was describing Kevin McCarthy's voting record where his votes to protect or enhance Liberty are at 41%- Kevin McCarthy is a Republican calling himself conservative- a proud Trump supporter-

Excerpt from the article:
Collectivism, or herd mentality, can only lead to a meaningless life that is devoid of honest living, adventure, love, freedom, happiness, and fulfillment. Societal herds lose the ability to think as individuals, and envy and jealously become the primary driving force of thought. This of course leads to a demand for equality where none is available or warranted, and due to this pathetic psychological state, all that is beautiful and good must be destroyed in order to make room for the mediocre community.

This is the state of America today. This country is made up of groups that require consensus of thought and actions, and this inevitably leads to a hatred for individual intellect and individual independence. The larger the mob, the less important the individual, as uniformity takes hold over all that is unique. Any individual that relinquishes his individuality in order to conform to the group has lost all. Once the herd mentality sets in, the consciousness of self disappears, leaving only weakness and confusion. This state that is the crowd is worthless in every way, and mass despair is the result, as it tears down the exceptional.

Me, Myself, and Ayn

Pathetic and pompous attempt to imagine how superior you are and independent of the majority. You and the predatory idols you identify with want to champion individualism only so you can pick us off one by one. Your hereditary plutocratic business dictatorship is itself collectivist: the employers create all the revenue and the owner collects it all from them.

If you're not a union man, you're not a man at all. A scab is a gutless little brown-nosing traitor.

FUCK unions!!!!
They're for the weak and lazy.
I dont need a union to make my way in life,I let my work ethic do it for me.

I was in the Steel Workers Union for twenty years. Sometimes the leadership supported ideas and people I didn't. Unions are susceptible to the same corruption as politics so I am still ambivalent about them. I will say this: The union pension I get today from the Steel worker's Pension Trust comes in handy.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Don't forget why Trump was elected.

Ok. I won't. What I will also do is remember that collectivist come in at least two stripes in US Politics (and several in religion)

"I" will survive, in spite of, if not to spite, the "group" (read herd) mentality.
The Individual is the one remembered, the one the stories are written about, songs sang about and lies told about....

This article believes Collectivism Will Lead to the Downfall of Man
My belief is: Joining a group is fine and dandy, as long the Individual realizes he no longer matters when belonging to the group.
At that point, one has relegated himself to being a tool or an enemy for an Individual to use as he sees fit. Sadly, Individuals refuse to acknowledge their ability to effect change on their own and feel like belonging to something bigger than they makes them more relevant- they also refuse to acknowledge that doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is the definition of crazy - it must be the other guys fault. for surely "I" can't be at fault since "I" belong to a group-
The author of the article is much more eloquent than I and much more verbose. I have written a book about "I" will survive though- not for publication, but for my descendants, so they can have a first hand look at recent History.

Rest assured, the "group" will not be remembered, nor the Party, nor the brand of religion whose acolytes (of both) prey on the seemingly inherent weakness of man (collectively) while making a liar of George Washington (an Individual).

It seems a shame that so many subscribe to an inherent weakness and won't subscribe to inherent Individual rights.
I've seen only one political ad that even used the word Liberty and that was describing Kevin McCarthy's voting record where his votes to protect or enhance Liberty are at 41%- Kevin McCarthy is a Republican calling himself conservative- a proud Trump supporter-

Excerpt from the article:
Collectivism, or herd mentality, can only lead to a meaningless life that is devoid of honest living, adventure, love, freedom, happiness, and fulfillment. Societal herds lose the ability to think as individuals, and envy and jealously become the primary driving force of thought. This of course leads to a demand for equality where none is available or warranted, and due to this pathetic psychological state, all that is beautiful and good must be destroyed in order to make room for the mediocre community.

This is the state of America today. This country is made up of groups that require consensus of thought and actions, and this inevitably leads to a hatred for individual intellect and individual independence. The larger the mob, the less important the individual, as uniformity takes hold over all that is unique. Any individual that relinquishes his individuality in order to conform to the group has lost all. Once the herd mentality sets in, the consciousness of self disappears, leaving only weakness and confusion. This state that is the crowd is worthless in every way, and mass despair is the result, as it tears down the exceptional.

Me, Myself, and Ayn

Pathetic and pompous attempt to imagine how superior you are and independent of the majority. You and the predatory idols you identify with want to champion individualism only so you can pick us off one by one. Your hereditary plutocratic business dictatorship is itself collectivist: the employers create all the revenue and the owner collects it all from them.

If you're not a union man, you're not a man at all. A scab is a gutless little brown-nosing traitor.

FUCK unions!!!!
They're for the weak and lazy.
I dont need a union to make my way in life,I let my work ethic do it for me.

I was in the Steel Workers Union for twenty years. Sometimes the leadership supported ideas and people I didn't. Unions are susceptible to the same corruption as politics so I am still ambivalent about them. I will say this: The union pension I get today from the Steel worker's Pension Trust comes in handy.

I've seen how union employees work and found it to be nauseating.
And I sure as hell dont need a union pension.

 

[IM2]

Occasionally an event takes place that signals a sea change. The most recent example in America was the election of Donald Trump which was a national repudiation of the runaway central state and the betrayal of the common citizen by a massive bureaucracy that has been metastasizing since Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society.

In the United States we have a Constitution that stressed from the beginning the importance of keeping government small. But since the 1960’s government has been growing at an alarming rate and American education, with expanding public sector unionization, has been furtively and systematically brainwashing the country’s children to the notion that big government is a righteous, crusading Lone Ranger fighting for groups that aren’t smart enough to solve their own problems and make their own way in society.

The key word is “groups”. This deindividualizes citizens, stealing their personal liberties, forcing them into the slave camps of identity politics. In 2008 the economy nearly collapsed because government Brownshirts had for years been forcing banks to issue home loans to criminals, drug dealers and chronically unemployed citizens with the Community Reinvestment Act of 1977. This led to the Sub Prime mortgage disaster that nearly took down Wall Street.

The people were watching so it isn’t surprising that When a Democratic congress tried to strongarm government health insurance onto the citizens with the laughably titled Affordable Care Act, they were appalled that government had become so bloated, corrupt and brazen. They knew right then that an emergency was at hand and to save their country from a calamity, business as usual would not work.

For years company pensions and decent employee provided healthcare has been stolen from American workers so US industry can exploit workers in foreign countries that essentially die in the gutter when they get old and sick. That’s what all this ISO 9000 and IS0 9001 are all about. They’re government scams to lower the standard of living in America to levels of third world countries.

The US government has abandoned US citizens to global overlords and the giant corporations that do their bidding. That’s why Donald Trump was elected. The people woke up which is different from being “woke”. “Woke” is the government forcing you to pay for someone else’s college education (government indoctrination).

We must keep Trump in office to bring jobs and manufacturing back here where it belongs. “America first” is not a dirty slogan.

This is funny. The delusions some of us live in are just incredible.

 

[Oddball]

In a proud and intelligent country, all major issues would be legislated through national referendums.

How's Greece workin' out these days?

 

[Oddball]

The constitution represents a compromise- Federalist vs anti Federalist- The anti federalist got the BOR inserted otherwise it wouldn't have been ratified.
That said; IF (and that is a little word with a big meaning) there were virtuous men elected the experiment would have turned out differently- obviously virtuous men aren't drawn to politics or political capital-
That said; why do y'all think that to a man politicians don't do as promised- only one I know of did what I consider honorable as a politician- Davy Crockett decided not to try getting elected again: his reason being, he couldn't get done what he told his voters he would do, thus the infamous; You all may go to Hell, I'm gone to Texas.

Economic Liberty: Why the Worst Get on Top by F.A. Hayek

 

[Oddball]

yet these same loyal-serfs complain about all those politicians, which is cognitive dissonnance, a characteristic of all lying political bullies

They are blind to the betrayal all around them.....all feel good rhetoric engineered for sorts that'll never be able to do the math.......with contrived denial shields...... it's fake news.....it's a liberals fault....it's socialism.....~S~

It's all the fault of the racists/white supremacists!....It's all the fault of the rich!...It's all thee fault of those awful SUVs and jet airplanes!...Them "I got mine types" have no compassion!....Why do you want the cheeeeeelrennnnn to starve and old people to die in the streets?!?

Contrived denial shields indeed.

 

[sparky]

Contrived denial shields indeed.

never really define a target, when the truly gifted masters use them Odd one ~S~

 

[Oddball]

This is funny. The delusions some of us live in are just incredible.