Don't Visit Sanctuary Cities/Counties/States

[paulitician]

Have San Francisco Government officials been arrested yet? Probably not. They're being protected by the criminal in the White House. There is no justice.

Do you have a proof of that?

They're criminals. The woman and her family won't see real justice until the Government officials who created the 'Sanctuary City' are arrested and prosecuted. Period, end of story.

 

[protectionist]

Link it because that isn't illegal either, unless you are helping him get away and you know it, which makes you an accomplice...

And passing a sanctuary law isn't helping an illegal get away ? Whaaaat ? It's helping ALL illegals get away. And it is violating federal law as well.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Link it because that isn't illegal either, unless you are helping him get away and you know it, which makes you an accomplice...

And passing a sanctuary law isn't helping an illegal get away ? Whaaaat ? It's helping ALL illegals get away. And it is violating federal law as well.

No, they are simply forbidden from asking at the State and Local level. If the Feds wish to ask, so be it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Helping illegals is breaking the law? Care to show us where?

As for Jesus, he was big on helping those in need, something you wouldn't understand.

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)




"Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both."



Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):



A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:





* assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or



* encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or



* knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.



Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

IT IS A FELONY AIDING AND ABETTING ILLEGALS HARBORING ILLEGALS - Univision Foros Forums - 193324776

Any more dumb assed assertions?

That's bringing people in, or knowingly employing them, or helping them skirt the law to get a job, not, as I said, helping them. I'm not breaking the law to give them a sandwich or a ride, but PC believes that, and it isn't true. I'd be helping them the way Jesus would. #53 and 55.

8 U.S. Code 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens US Law LII Legal Information Institute

Read the first paragraph again, has nothing to do with bringing anyone in, it's aiding them to remain.

As far as giving him a sandwich and a ride, what do you not understand about aiding an abetting? But here's a reference as to the ride.

(ii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;

8 U.S. Code 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens US Law LII Legal Information Institute

You lose, again!

I read the law, now learn how it how it plays out: 8 U.S. Code 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens US Law LII Legal Information Institute

And there's nothing illegal about helping illegals as Jesus would, and when asked to back that up PC couldn't course because she is wrong, as usual, and so are you. The jails would be filled to far beyond capacity if the law was what you believe it is.

Quote the section you're referring to, then I'll address it.

If you could address it you already would have. What you believe is the law, isn't.

 

[protectionist]

Same question, where does it say it's illegal to help illegals?

Are you being insincere, or are you really that ignorant ? (in the case of liberals, being understandable)

Title 8 Section 1373 and Title 8 Section 1644 of the U.S. Code. Those statutes say, in plain English, that a city may not have a policy that prohibits its officers from communicating with the federal government about a person’s immigration status

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

In addition, the 1996 Immigration

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I think that was Jesus actually.

Could you mention exactly where Jesus endorsed breaking the law?

Helping illegals is breaking the law? Care to show us where?

As for Jesus, he was big on helping those in need, something you wouldn't understand.

il·le·gal
(ĭ-lē′gəl)
adj.
1. Prohibited by law.
2. Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football.
3. Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation.
n. Offensive
A person who is not legally authorized to live and work in a country.
Illegal - definition of illegal by The Free Dictionary

accomplice
(əˈkɒmplɪs; əˈkʌm-)
n
1. a person who helps another in committing a crime
Accomplice - definition of accomplice by The Free Dictionary

Same question, where does it say it's illegal to help illegals?

Are you being insincere, or are you really that ignorant ? (in the case of liberals, being understandable)

Title 8 Section 1373 and Title 8 Section 1644 of the U.S. Code. Those statutes say, in plain English, that a city may not have a policy that prohibits its officers from communicating with the federal government about a person’s immigration status

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

In addition, the 1996 Immigration

They can't communicate what they are forbidden to ask, now can they?

 

[protectionist]

Link it because that isn't illegal either, unless you are helping him get away and you know it, which makes you an accomplice...

And passing a sanctuary law isn't helping an illegal get away ? Whaaaat ? It's helping ALL illegals get away. And it is violating federal law as well.

No, they are simply forbidden from asking at the State and Local level. If the Feds wish to ask, so be it.

Well, they did at the local level (County of San Francisco) what they are forbidden to do.

 

[protectionist]

They can't communicate what they are forbidden to ask, now can they?

Asking isn't what's forbidden. Not telling is what's forbidden. And that's how they (San Francisco) broke the federal laws. 8 U.S. Code § 1644 and 8 U.S. Code § 1373

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Link it because that isn't illegal either, unless you are helping him get away and you know it, which makes you an accomplice...

And passing a sanctuary law isn't helping an illegal get away ? Whaaaat ? It's helping ALL illegals get away. And it is violating federal law as well.

No, they are simply forbidden from asking at the State and Local level. If the Feds wish to ask, so be it.

Well, they did at the local level (County of San Francisco) what they are forbidden to do.

No, they are not forbidden to forbid asking about a person's immigration status. Learn the law: Sanctuary city - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Helping illegals is breaking the law? Care to show us where?

As for Jesus, he was big on helping those in need, something you wouldn't understand.

il·le·gal
(ĭ-lē′gəl)
adj.
1. Prohibited by law.
2. Prohibited by official rules: an illegal pass in football.
3. Unacceptable to or not performable by a computer: an illegal operation.
n. Offensive
A person who is not legally authorized to live and work in a country.
Illegal - definition of illegal by The Free Dictionary

accomplice
(əˈkɒmplɪs; əˈkʌm-)
n
1. a person who helps another in committing a crime
Accomplice - definition of accomplice by The Free Dictionary

Same question, where does it say it's illegal to help illegals?

Are you being insincere, or are you really that ignorant ? (in the case of liberals, being understandable)

Title 8 Section 1373 and Title 8 Section 1644 of the U.S. Code. Those statutes say, in plain English, that a city may not have a policy that prohibits its officers from communicating with the federal government about a person’s immigration status

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.

In addition, the 1996 Immigration

They can't communicate what they are forbidden to ask, now can they?

Asking isn't what's forbiddden. Not telling is what's forbidden. And that's how they (San Francisco) broke the federal laws. 8 U.S. Code § 1644 and 8 U.S. Code § 1373

No, the policy is you are not allowed to ask (papers please?), not you are not allowed to tell. Don't ask, nothing to tell. No laws broken...

 

[protectionist]

There cannot be any justice in San Francisco until Government officials are arrested. Period, end of story.

That will never happen so stop posting such a thing.

Why would it not happen ? (other than Obama preventing it) remember he's only president until Jan. 2017, and then we have Trump.

 

[protectionist]

No, they are not forbidden to forbid asking about a person's immigration status. Learn the law: Sanctuary city - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I told you what they are forbidden to do. That's the end of it. You can stop babbling now.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

There cannot be any justice in San Francisco until Government officials are arrested. Period, end of story.

That will never happen so stop posting such a thing.

Why would it not happen ? (other than Obama preventing it) remember he's only president until Jan. 2017, and then we have Trump.

Why it would not happen is because no laws were broken. If the Feds wanted him gone, that was up to the Feds.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, they are not forbidden to forbid asking about a person's immigration status. Learn the law: Sanctuary city - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

I told you what they are forbidden to do. That's the end of it. You can stop babbling now.

They are forbidden to ask, not to tell. Learn the fucking law.

 

[protectionist]

No, the policy is you are not allowed to ask (papers please?), not you are not allowed to tell. Don't ask, nothing to tell. No laws broken...

You are twisting words around, and maybe thinking you can get somebody confused. I'm not confused.

The policy (LAW) is not being allowed to ask, or not being allowed to tell. It is being REQUIRED TO TELL (as I just showed you by posting the laws, giving you no excuse now to not know what they are)

 

[protectionist]

They are forbidden to ask, not to tell. Learn the fucking law.

I just responded to that idiotic statement, in Post # 115, in addition to # 105, teaching you the law. You're welcome. No charge for the tutoring.

Anything else you need to know ?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

No, the policy is you are not allowed to ask (papers please?), not you are not allowed to tell. Don't ask, nothing to tell. No laws broken...

You are twisting words around, and maybe thinking you can get somebody confused. I'm not confused.

The policy (LAW) is not being allowed to ask, or not being allowed to tell. It is being REQUIRED TO TELL (as I just showed you by posting the laws, giving you no excuse now to not know what they are)

You cannot tell what you are not allowed to ask. Sanctuary city - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia means you are not allowed to ask, not that you are not forbidden from telling, but asking in the first place, which,...................................................wait for it,........................................is not against the law.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

They are forbidden to ask, not to tell. Learn the fucking law.

I just responded to that idiotic statement, in Post # 115, in addition to # 105 teaching you the law. You're welcome. No charge for the tutoring.

If you would learn the fucking law you would understand the difference between being forbidden from telling, against the law, and forbidden from asking, not against the law.

 

[protectionist]

PS - in addition to the 2 laws I already stated there is yet another 1996 law forbidding the San Francisco supervisors (and any other sanctuary criminal loons) from protecting illegal aliens. That is the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996. This act states that immigrants unlawfully present in the United States for 180 days but less than 365 days must remain outside the United States for three years unless they obtain a pardon. If they are in the United States for 365 days or more, they must stay outside the United States for ten years unless they obtain a waiver.

Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[protectionist]

If you would learn the fucking law you would understand the difference between being forbidden from telling, against the law, and forbidden from asking, not against the law.

Neither has any relevance to this, as I already taught you in Post # 115. You're a slow learner.

Read the laws (Post # 105)