Don't Visit Sanctuary Cities/Counties/States

[protectionist]

Look old friend, if the Sheriff's policy is out of line then it needs to be adjusted. The SF law as it stands is not against the law. If the difference between being forbidden to ask, not forbidden to discuss someone's status with the Feds, and the Feds had this guy in prison and didn't deport him. Save your vitriol for the Feds, they are responsible for deportations not San Fransisco.

We do not (yet) have every Barney Fife stopping the wetbacks on the street to ask for their papers. That is not the law, and the laws that sanctuary cities have created are legal, like it or not. You might believe they are breaking the Federal laws, as if you give a damn about obeying the Feds, but they are not. This is a Federal issue, not a state or local issue. They had the guy in prison right before this and didn't deport him. And next time, use a real source and read up first.

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.'

 

[OKTexas]

Never happen with this DOJ.

That's why we need to get going with a new DOJ. This one is a catastrophe.

Cruz for AG.

 

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Actually it was the COUNTY (Supervisors)of San Francisco who did it , but the point remains the same.

 

[protectionist]

# 1 of of some of the best places to visit in the USA, that are not sanctuary cities/counties/states is the island of Maui in Hawaii. This is especially good for people on the west coast who might have been considering visiting San Franciso or one of the many sanctuary places in California. Maui is warm with soft breezes, wheras the San Francisco Bay area is cold (even in mid summer, with harsh, cold winds.
Maui is not nearly as large as the Big Island, nor is it as small as Lanai, as bustling as Oahu or as quiet as Kauai. For many Hawaii vacationers, Maui is just right — offering a taste of just about everything the Aloha State has to offer, from impressive wildlife to intriguing history and culture.

While on a visit here, you can shimmy alongside professional hula dancers, golf along coastal fairways, snorkel alongside five different types of sea turtles or simply lounge along some of Hawaii's most notable beaches.

 

[protectionist]

# 2 of of some of the best places to visit in the USA, that are not sanctuary cities/counties/states is Yellowstone National Park. With dramatic peaks and pristine lakes, Yellowstone is an outdoor enthusiast's paradise. Multicolored pools swirl around hot springs; verdant forests weave past expansive meadows; and volatile geysers launch streams of steaming water toward the sky.

With so much unspoiled natural beauty, it's no wonder everyone suspected John Colter (a scout for explorers Lewis and Clark) was embellishing when he first described Yellowstone's geothermal curiosities in 1807. Nowadays, there's no doubt that the park is indeed extraordinary. While you traverse the park's 3,000-plus square miles of mountains, canyons, geysers and waterfalls, be prepared to share the trails with permanent residents like buffalo, elk and sometimes even grizzlies.

 

[protectionist]

# 3 of of some of the best places to visit in the USA, that are not sanctuary cities/counties/states is the Grand Canyon. "Grand" doesn't begin to do this canyon justice. Measuring approximately 277 miles in length, up to 18 miles in width and a mile deep, this massive chasm in northern Arizona is truly a natural wonder. For six million years, the Grand Canyon has expanded with the help of the mighty Colorado River, and for centuries, people from all over the globe have traveled to gaze out over its red and orange grandeur.

Managed by the National Park Service and officially designated as a UNESCO World Heritage site, the Grand Canyon leaves its approximately 4.5 million visitors per year awestruck.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Look old friend, if the Sheriff's policy is out of line then it needs to be adjusted. The SF law as it stands is not against the law. If the difference between being forbidden to ask, not forbidden to discuss someone's status with the Feds, and the Feds had this guy in prison and didn't deport him. Save your vitriol for the Feds, they are responsible for deportations not San Fransisco.

We do not (yet) have every Barney Fife stopping the wetbacks on the street to ask for their papers. That is not the law, and the laws that sanctuary cities have created are legal, like it or not. You might believe they are breaking the Federal laws, as if you give a damn about obeying the Feds, but they are not. This is a Federal issue, not a state or local issue. They had the guy in prison right before this and didn't deport him. And next time, use a real source and read up first.

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.'

It does no good to keep re-posting the laws they aren't breaking. The Feds had him in their custody, and did not deport him. Lay the blame where it belongs, for a change.

 

[protectionist]

Sanctuary cities are now under attack not only by the US govt, which has passed legislation against them, private citizens are also mounting a nationwide offensive in the form of LAWSUITS. This is the next big thing the mews will be flooded with. A tsunami of lawsuits are on the horizon, coming to your sanctuary city soon.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/07/24/us/ap-us-immigration-sanctuary-cities.html?_r=0

 

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It does no good to keep re-posting the laws they aren't breaking. The Feds had him in their custody, and did not deport him. Lay the blame where it belongs, for a change.

Whether the feds did their job or not, is irrelevent to the cities, counties and states requirement to respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information. This San Francisco County did refuse to respond to ICE, resulting in the death of Kate Steinle, and almost the escape of her killer Francisco Sanchez.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Look old friend, if the Sheriff's policy is out of line then it needs to be adjusted. The SF law as it stands is not against the law. If the difference between being forbidden to ask, not forbidden to discuss someone's status with the Feds, and the Feds had this guy in prison and didn't deport him. Save your vitriol for the Feds, they are responsible for deportations not San Fransisco.

We do not (yet) have every Barney Fife stopping the wetbacks on the street to ask for their papers. That is not the law, and the laws that sanctuary cities have created are legal, like it or not. You might believe they are breaking the Federal laws, as if you give a damn about obeying the Feds, but they are not. This is a Federal issue, not a state or local issue. They had the guy in prison right before this and didn't deport him. And next time, use a real source and read up first.

8 U.S. Code § 1373 - Communication between government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service

(a)In general
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, a Federal, State, or local government entity or official may not prohibit, or in any way restrict, any government entity or official from sending to, or receiving from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the citizenship or immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual.
(b) Additional authority of government entities
Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no person or agency may prohibit, or in any way restrict, a Federal, State, or local government entity from doing any of the following with respect to information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of any individual:
(1) Sending such information to, or requesting or receiving such information from, the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
(2) Maintaining such information.
(3) Exchanging such information with any other Federal, State, or local government entity.
(c) Obligation to respond to inquiries
The Immigration and Naturalization Service shall respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information.

8 U.S. Code § 1644 - Communication between State and local government agencies and Immigration and Naturalization Service

Notwithstanding any other provision of Federal, State, or local law, no State or local government entity may be prohibited, or in any way restricted, from sending to or receiving from the Immigration and Naturalization Service information regarding the immigration status, lawful or unlawful, of an alien in the United States.'

It does no good to keep re-posting the laws they aren't breaking. The Feds had him in their custody, and did not deport him. Lay the blame where it belongs, for a change.

Whether the feds did their job or not, is irrelevent to the cities, counties and states requirement to respond to an inquiry by a Federal, State, or local government agency, seeking to verify or ascertain the citizenship or immigration status of any individual within the jurisdiction of the agency for any purpose authorized by law, by providing the requested verification or status information. This San Francisco County did, resulting in the death of Kate Steinle, and almost the escape of her killer Francisco Sanchez.

They followed the policy of many CA counties, did not break the law, and the blood, such as there is, is on the hands of the Feds who had the guy and are responsible for deportations. The Feds are the ones who did not deport him and that is up to them, not the city by the bay.

 

[protectionist]

# 5 of of some of the best places to visit in the USA, that are not sanctuary cities/counties/states is Yosemite. One of California's most formidable natural landscapes, Yosemite National Park features nearly 1,200 square miles of sheer awe: towering waterfalls, millennia-old Sequoia trees, daunting cliff faces and some of the most unique rock formations in the United States. But despite its enormous size, most of the tourist activity takes place within a seven-square-mile area of Yosemite Valley.

Here you'll find the park's most famous landmarks -- Half Dome and El Capitan -- as well as excellent hiking trails through the natural monuments. Even inexperienced hikers can enjoy Yosemite -- guided tours and climbing lessons are offered from local adventure outfitters.

 

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Oahu blends cosmopolitan luxury and breathtaking scenery more than any other Hawaiian island. The state's capital city, Honolulu, showcases the island's urban appeal. Nearby you'll find a host of cultural and historical sites, from the austere USS Arizona Memorial to ornate 'Iolani Palace. In the nearby Waikikineighborhood, a skyline of high-rises and resort hotels contrasts with sprawling white-sand beaches.

For a taste of rural Hawaii, visit the North Shore. Here, you'll find the most brilliant blue waters and meandering hikes. But those three spots aren't all Oahu offers. Its high-class restaurants, vibrant cultural events, and wild nightlife further showcase this island as a "Gathering Place" of Hawaiian culture.

 

[protectionist]

The Feds are the ones who did not deport him and that is up to them, not the city by the bay.

Nobody ever said San Francisco had to deport him. That's a straw man. What they were required to do is respond to ICE's detainer. They made no response at all. 100% ILLEGAL CRIME.

The fact that you have THE LAW (8 U.S. Code § 1373) & (8 U.S. Code § 1373) Communication between State and local government agencies and the Immigration and Naturalization Service (now called ICE) right in front of you, and you refuse to acknowledge it, shows that you are just a baldfaced liar, and probably are one of the VESTED INTERESTS who selfishly profit in same way from illegal immigration.

vested interests in bed with illegal aliens >>>

1. Spanish media needing Spanish-only speakers (ex. Univision, which Jorge Ramos, a top Trump critic is a news anchor for).

2. Businesses wanting cheap labor to boost their profits.

3. Churches wanting parishoners to fill their empty pews.

4. Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships.

5. Ethnocentrist organizations wanting immigrants to multiply their race, for racist reasons (ex. La Raza- "the race")

6. Democrats seek VOTES (and get them).

7. Terrorists come in to enact terrorism (ex. the 9-11 hijackers came in on visas)

8. Anchor baby parents who become LEGALLY entitled to welfare benefits by having the pregnant woman give birth on the American side of the border. And then help themselves to a lifetime of benefits (more immigrants are receiving welfare benefits than native-born Americans).

9. Mexico - remittances$$$ from the USA are their second largest source of income (second only to their oil exports) Mexico also benefits immensely by dumping their poor people on the US, as we then stupidly pay their poverty bill for them. Other countries also benefit from remittances and poverty dumping.

10. Mexico's reconquista of the American southwest. I take the Mexican govt at it's word when it says that is exactly its plan.

 

[protectionist]

So which is it, PMH ? which one on the list of VESTED INTERESTS, are you ?

Business (illegally) employing illegal aliens ?

Unions wanting members to replace their declining memberships ?

Democrat seeking VOTES ??

Tell us. Come on. You can tell the truth. It'll make you feel better.

 

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[PaintMyHouse]

The Feds are the ones who did not deport him and that is up to them, not the city by the bay.

Nobody ever said San Francisco had to deport him. That's a straw man. What they were required to do is respond to ICE's detainer. They made no response at all. 100% ILLEGAL CRIME.

Not according to the federal courts who say that violates Due Process. You believe in courts and due process right?

"Mirkarimi's directive went a step further than the city's 2013 Due Process for All ordinance, which bars jail officials from honoring ICE requests that inmates be held beyond their release dates for pickup unless the inmate faced court action on a violent felony charge and was convicted of a similar crime in the past seven years.

He issued the memo as departments across the state and nation also implemented policies barring the honoring of detainers absent a judicial warrant. ICE has said it cannot obtain such probable cause warrants because there is not a process readily available for such a purpose.

The crackdown on cooperation with ICE came after federal courts last year deemed the detainers unconstitutional absent some kind of judicial review."
S.F. sheriff apos s deputies call lack of communication with ICE apos reckless apos after pier shooting - LA Times