Doom and Gloom Prophecies

[mudwhistle]

You've ridden that horse to exhaustion. Give the poor beast a rest.

The GOP should actually be hoping the exchanges work. Afterall, they are competitive insurance markets.

If the exchanges blow up, you know what Obamacare will end up being, mostly?

A big expansion of Medicaid, with the beneficiaries mostly being the blue states willing to sign on,

and pretty much nothing else.

If everything works the way it was designed 50 -100 million of us will lose our current insurance.

So I don't think we want it to work. Not the way it was designed.

The way it's designed, about 1.5% of Americans will have their insurance situation adversely affected.

You're just regurgitating Obama's talking-points.

The 5 million that lost their insurance comes to 1.6%. They are just a fraction of what will lose their insurance when the group plan mandates kick in next year.

The federal registry predicted that over half of our total population will lose their health care.

If Obama hadn't pushed back the mandates for group plans that many would have lost them already.

 

[The Rabbi]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

last thing private citizens did that was big, we had banks collapse our economy.
So the real answer isnt government is flawed, its Man is flawed.

When did we let private citizens run banks? The government has tightly regulated banks for 75 years. get your head out of your ass before posting again.

 

[The Rabbi]

top three reasons for high insurance:

Can;t cross state lines
tort reform
mandates
now what party wouldn't have none of this

You've ridden that horse to exhaustion. Give the poor beast a rest.

The GOP should actually be hoping the exchanges work. Afterall, they are competitive insurance markets.

If the exchanges blow up, you know what Obamacare will end up being, mostly?

A big expansion of Medicaid, with the beneficiaries mostly being the blue states willing to sign on,

and pretty much nothing else.

Greenbeard, is that you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

 

[mudwhistle]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

last thing private citizens did that was big, we had banks collapse our economy.
So the real answer isnt government is flawed, its Man is flawed.

When did we let private citizens run banks? The government has tightly regulated banks for 75 years. get your head out of your ass before posting again.

You are talking to fuzzyballs after all.....

 

[The Rabbi]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

Right. Getting your policy cancelled and having to shop for totally new insurance, at higher rates with worse benefits, is losing your insurance.
Good catch.

 

[mudwhistle]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

Changing to what?

Oh, this is one of those "Saved Or Created" moments.

There's insurance out there somewhere. You may lose your plan but there's always another policy out there somewhere. You may not be able to afford it, but it's out there..........somewhere.

Just don't try the exchanges cuz they don't work yet.

"Hope and Change"

You hope you can change to a decent affordable health care plan.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

It is when you didn't want to change plans.

Is that your new talking point: "You can't complain about us taking over your life, as long as we replace what you wanted with what we wanted you to have"?

Tell you what, Sparkles: You go buy yourself a Porsche, and then I'll come take it and hand you the keys to a Pinto, and tell you how you didn't lose your car, you just "changed" it. Think you'd accept that little word play?

 

[Darkwind]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

It is when you didn't want to change plans.

Is that your new talking point: "You can't complain about us taking over your life, as long as we replace what you wanted with what we wanted you to have"?

Tell you what, Sparkles: You go buy yourself a Porsche, and then I'll come take it and hand you the keys to a Pinto, and tell you how you didn't lose your car, you just "changed" it. Think you'd accept that little word play?

With English......Nice.....

 

[mudwhistle]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

It is when you didn't want to change plans.

Is that your new talking point: "You can't complain about us taking over your life, as long as we replace what you wanted with what we wanted you to have"?

Tell you what, Sparkles: You go buy yourself a Porsche, and then I'll come take it and hand you the keys to a Pinto, and tell you how you didn't lose your car, you just "changed" it. Think you'd accept that little word play?

But you still have to pay like it's a Porsche......

 

[Cecilie1200]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

It is when you didn't want to change plans.

Is that your new talking point: "You can't complain about us taking over your life, as long as we replace what you wanted with what we wanted you to have"?

Tell you what, Sparkles: You go buy yourself a Porsche, and then I'll come take it and hand you the keys to a Pinto, and tell you how you didn't lose your car, you just "changed" it. Think you'd accept that little word play?

But you still have to pay like it's a Porsche......

Oh, even better: We replace that Porsche you bought with a Pinto, and THEN we charge you like it's TWO Porsches . . . so someone else can have a Pinto, too.

 

[eagle1462010]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

last thing private citizens did that was big, we had banks collapse our economy.
So the real answer isnt government is flawed, its Man is flawed.

LOL

The Gov't passed the law that allowed shadow trading without SEC Control.

The Gov't decided to get into the housing business, cook the books, and guarantee loans that they had no business getting into the first place.

The Gov't got rid of the Glass Steagall Act, which allowed Too Big to Fail Corps.

The Gov't allowed the same one's who crashed the markets to borrow from the Federal Reserve nearly 17 TRILLION Dollars to bail their sorry asses out. And the same ones are Stock holders of the Federal Reserve.

The Gov't pays origination fees and interest for getting loans from the Federal Reserve. Which by the Constitution shouldn't cost us JACK SQUAT. I'm sorry, the Federal Reserve Act was created by the Marxist Wilson.

Currently, 45% of the GDP goes to Gov't, when you include Federal, State, and Local Gov'ts. Anyone who can't see this as a problem is an Idiot. Which explains Liberals.

Finally, Obamacare is doing more damage than good, but the left keeps saying it's SO GREAT. The people don't agree, and the Dems don't give a damn about the will of the people.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Repubs have thread after thread going on about how everything is bad and everything WILL CONTINUE to be bad! Forever!

Because Americans used ti be able to do big things...bit not anymore. Repubs are here to tell us "dont do that, we cant do that or dont even try that" the website isn't working translate it into Republic speak that means it'll never work. Some people were dropped from coverage translated means they'll never get coverage again. America is doomed folks. Our old system was so great that no other industrialized Nation does it!

Our old system was so great that millions were denied coverage and 60% of bankruptcies were caused from medical bills. (go look it up yourself)

Now millions of people will have healthcare and the system isn't perfect. Boo hoo. A plan that affects the entire US will of course hit some bumps ...will require tweaking etc. No biggie and it's not the end of the world

No, millions are losing their healthcare and that number will hit 10's of millions when it starts hitting employee insurance next year.

 

[rdean]

If Republicans get into office again, they will finish the job they started under Bush. Look at the House.

I sure as shit hope so.......

Two failed wars.

Iraq is friends with Iran.

Thousands of Americans dead.

Tens of thousands of Americans maimed for life.

The cost of taking care of tens of thousands of Americans Republicans tricked into Iraq. (course, they don't want to take care of veterans now so maybe those wounded warriors won't cost so much after Republicans finish screwing them over)

Trillions in deficit creating tax cuts with most going to billionaires with the failed promise of jobs.

Almost two thousand dead from neglect after Katrina.

And those were the "big ticket events" that came from Bush and right wingers want to return to that? And Republicans have the nerve to try to blame those things on Democrats. When they were able to use reconciliation THREE TIMES.

 

[Dutch]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

I wonder how many people posting are alive today because their grandparents took advantage of programs like the TVA or the WPA?

 

[WelfareQueen]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

I wonder how many people posting are alive today because their grandparents took advantage of programs like the TVA or the WPA?

I wonder has much more efficiently and less costly they would have been run by the private sector?

 

[Dutch]

America used to let PRIVATE CITIZENS do big things. Not government.

Now days, the Democrat motto is "You can't do any of that because someone else built that for you!"

I wonder how many people posting are alive today because their grandparents took advantage of programs like the TVA or the WPA?

I wonder has much more efficiently and less costly they would have been run by the private sector?

Because the private sector worked so well in the late 20's?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Idiots.

Changing plans is not losing insurance.

Changing? Nobody wanted to change anything. So yeah, having your plan eliminated in hopes you'll make that change IS losing insurance.

 

[WelfareQueen]

I wonder how many people posting are alive today because their grandparents took advantage of programs like the TVA or the WPA?

I wonder has much more efficiently and less costly they would have been run by the private sector?

Because the private sector worked so well in the late 20's?

The private sector has always worked vastly better than Government. And maybe this eludes you...but the Government creates nothing. The money for the TVA and WPA came out of the private sector.

 

[mudwhistle]

Repubs have thread after thread going on about how everything is bad and everything WILL CONTINUE to be bad! Forever!

Because Americans used ti be able to do big things...bit not anymore. Repubs are here to tell us "dont do that, we cant do that or dont even try that" the website isn't working translate it into Republic speak that means it'll never work. Some people were dropped from coverage translated means they'll never get coverage again. America is doomed folks. Our old system was so great that no other industrialized Nation does it!

Our old system was so great that millions were denied coverage and 60% of bankruptcies were caused from medical bills. (go look it up yourself)

Now millions of people will have healthcare and the system isn't perfect. Boo hoo. A plan that affects the entire US will of course hit some bumps ...will require tweaking etc. No biggie and it's not the end of the world

No, millions are losing their healthcare and that number will hit 10's of millions when it starts hitting employee insurance next year.

Oh, that's just some scare tactic from Faux News......