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FAUCI EXPOSED – FAUCI ARGUES WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS ‘NOW’, NOT ‘THEN’, THAT ‘WE ARE HERE TODAY TO DISCUSS WHERE WE GO FROM HERE, NOT WHAT YOU ARE BRINGING UP
"In an email exchange with Dr. [Francis] Collins, you conspire, and I quote here directly from the email, to ‘create a quick and devastating published takedown’ of three prominent epidemiologists from Harvard, Oxford and Stanford," Paul said, referring to the recently retired National Institutes of Health director.
Paul went on to cite the email exchange, in which Collins was discussing the Great Barrington Declaration, which opposed large-scale lockdowns as a response to the pandemic in favor of "focused protection" and herd immunity.
In response, Fauci sent Collins articles from Wired and The Nation that had already slammed this position. While Fauci himself had not penned those pieces, Paul accused him of going along with Collins' effort to smear the doctors behind the Great Barrington Declaration.
"Instead of engaging them on the merits, you and Dr. Collins sought to smear them as fringe and take them down, and not in journals in lay press. This is not only antithetical to the scientific method, it's the epitome of cheap politics, and it's reprehensible, Dr. Fauci."
Fauci's initial response was that the email was from Collins to him, not the other way around, but Paul noted that Fauci responded to it with agreement.
Fauci, Paul clash over accusations of 'cheap politics' regarding alleged 'takedown' of other scientists
Fauci admitted that he spoke privately with scientists behind that article (an article from Nature Medicine in 2020 from several doctors that went against the idea that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab, despite the authors being part of a conference call days earlier in which the lab leak theory was discussed as a possibility), but when Paul asked him about the substance of the conversation and whether they initially believed the virus came from a lab, Fauci changed the subject by accusing Paul of wasting time by going after him AND REFUSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Fauci WAS FORCED TO ADMIT that he spoke privately with scientists behind that article, but when Paul asked him about the substance of the conversation and whether they initially believed the virus came from a lab, Fauci changed the subject AGAIN by accusing Paul of wasting time by going after him.
"You keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality," Fauci said. "So you are making a catastrophic epidemic for your political gain," Fauci added.
- NONE OF PAUL’S QUESTIONS HAD ‘ATTACKED HIM PERSONALLY’ BUT WAS EXPOSING FAUCI’S PROVEN LIES AND DECEIT – FACTS ARE NOT A ‘PERSONAL ATTACK’. EXCEPT TO DEMOCRATS WHO ARE HURT BY THOSE FACTS.
FAUCI THEN ATTEMPTED TO PLAY THE ROLE OF A MARTYR, ACCUSING PAUL PURPOSEFULLY ENDANGERING HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND OF CARRYIUNG OUT AND ENCOURAGING ATTACKS ON HIS CHARACTER FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES
Paul shot back that Fauci is the one who plays politics against his own colleagues in the medical field. "You won't defend it, you won't argue it, you just simply turn around the attack," he said.
During the exchange Paul accurately and appropriately called Fauci ‘THE ARCHITECT OF BIDENS COVID RESPONSE
"In an email exchange with Dr. [Francis] Collins, you conspire, and I quote here directly from the email, to ‘create a quick and devastating published takedown’ of three prominent epidemiologists from Harvard, Oxford and Stanford," Paul said, referring to the recently retired National Institutes of Health director.
Paul went on to cite the email exchange, in which Collins was discussing the Great Barrington Declaration, which opposed large-scale lockdowns as a response to the pandemic in favor of "focused protection" and herd immunity.
In response, Fauci sent Collins articles from Wired and The Nation that had already slammed this position. While Fauci himself had not penned those pieces, Paul accused him of going along with Collins' effort to smear the doctors behind the Great Barrington Declaration.
"Instead of engaging them on the merits, you and Dr. Collins sought to smear them as fringe and take them down, and not in journals in lay press. This is not only antithetical to the scientific method, it's the epitome of cheap politics, and it's reprehensible, Dr. Fauci."
Fauci's initial response was that the email was from Collins to him, not the other way around, but Paul noted that Fauci responded to it with agreement.
Fauci, Paul clash over accusations of 'cheap politics' regarding alleged 'takedown' of other scientists
Fauci admitted that he spoke privately with scientists behind that article (an article from Nature Medicine in 2020 from several doctors that went against the idea that COVID-19 originated in a Wuhan lab, despite the authors being part of a conference call days earlier in which the lab leak theory was discussed as a possibility), but when Paul asked him about the substance of the conversation and whether they initially believed the virus came from a lab, Fauci changed the subject by accusing Paul of wasting time by going after him AND REFUSED TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
Fauci WAS FORCED TO ADMIT that he spoke privately with scientists behind that article, but when Paul asked him about the substance of the conversation and whether they initially believed the virus came from a lab, Fauci changed the subject AGAIN by accusing Paul of wasting time by going after him.
"You keep coming back to personal attacks on me that have absolutely no relevance to reality," Fauci said. "So you are making a catastrophic epidemic for your political gain," Fauci added.
- NONE OF PAUL’S QUESTIONS HAD ‘ATTACKED HIM PERSONALLY’ BUT WAS EXPOSING FAUCI’S PROVEN LIES AND DECEIT – FACTS ARE NOT A ‘PERSONAL ATTACK’. EXCEPT TO DEMOCRATS WHO ARE HURT BY THOSE FACTS.
FAUCI THEN ATTEMPTED TO PLAY THE ROLE OF A MARTYR, ACCUSING PAUL PURPOSEFULLY ENDANGERING HIM AND HIS FAMILY AND OF CARRYIUNG OUT AND ENCOURAGING ATTACKS ON HIS CHARACTER FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES
Paul shot back that Fauci is the one who plays politics against his own colleagues in the medical field. "You won't defend it, you won't argue it, you just simply turn around the attack," he said.
During the exchange Paul accurately and appropriately called Fauci ‘THE ARCHITECT OF BIDENS COVID RESPONSE