Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[rightwinger]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

MLK was clipped by one person, a pathetic loser by the name of James E. Ray. How can you blame his death on all "white people"?

You can blame every person who denied blacks their civil rights for three hundred years

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

MLK was nothing but a phony reverend con man looking to make a buck. Not much different than the ones we have today.
When he was shot seems the government wanted to make in a martyr a to keep the blacks from rioting.

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

 

[Polishprince]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

MLK was clipped by one person, a pathetic loser by the name of James E. Ray. How can you blame his death on all "white people"?

You can blame every person who denied blacks their civil rights for three hundred years

Why would you think that? I'm not sure that even the convicted assassin , Mr. Ray, ever denied anyone their civil rights, much less for 300 years.

Would you blame the same folks for the assassination of other black leader like Malcolm X, the Notorious Big or Trayvon Martin?

 

[Polishprince]

MLK was nothing but a phony reverend con man looking to make a buck. Not much different than the ones we have today.
When he was shot seems the government wanted to make in a martyr a to keep the blacks from rioting.

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

 

[rightwinger]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

MLK was clipped by one person, a pathetic loser by the name of James E. Ray. How can you blame his death on all "white people"?

You can blame every person who denied blacks their civil rights for three hundred years

Why would you think that? I'm not sure that even the convicted assassin , Mr. Ray, ever denied anyone their civil rights, much less for 300 years.

Would you blame the same folks for the assassination of other black leader like Malcolm X, the Notorious Big or Trayvon Martin?

He sure denied Dr King of his Civil Rights

 

[Redfish]

THank you for admitting that Eisenhower and Nixon, two conservative REpublicans, had fine civil rights records.


Your claim about Reagan, is simply wrong. Reagan is more recent and thus more timely, thus you can't admit it yet. Give it another 20 years, and once it become moot, more of you libs will be ready to stop lying about him too.

Ike was a country club republican and Nixon a paranoid piece of shit.


Both refused to meet with MLK which is why he switched party allegiance from republic to Democratic in the 1950s.

the civil rights bill of 1964 would not have passed without republican votes, a majority of democrats voted against it.

Wouldn’t have passed without Democratic votes and being signed into law by a Democratic President

yes, Johnson did sign it and some dems voted for it. Why don't you look up the congressional vote count and report back to us?

LBJ was one of the most racist presidents in our history, he was also a pervert and was involved in the murder of JFK. If you want to make him a hero, thats up to you, but he was a terrible human being.

LBJ did more for Civil Rights than any President since Lincoln

All he did was sign the bill passed by congress. He was a Texas racist and hated Mexicans and native americans almost as much as he hated blacks. You know nothing about who LBJ really was. you must have been schooled by liberal lying members of the teachers union in some blue state.

 

[Redfish]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

horseshit

 

[Redfish]

Dr. King was somehow so much more than the legend he has become.⠀
⠀
He was a democratic socialist, a believer in radical love, and a fierce critic of US militarism, materialism, and racism. ⠀
⠀
We should all strive to follow the radical legacy of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

He also cheated on his wife with many women of all races. but he did some good things, I agree with that. But unlike the liberals of today, MLK supported peaceful change and was against all forms of violence.

His niece, is a strong supporter of Trump, how do you explain that? Oh, I know whats coming, you will call her names and say that she did not support MLK and is making a mockery of his legend-------------I know that is what you are going to say, so don't bother.

 

[Polishprince]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

MLK was clipped by one person, a pathetic loser by the name of James E. Ray. How can you blame his death on all "white people"?

You can blame every person who denied blacks their civil rights for three hundred years

Why would you think that? I'm not sure that even the convicted assassin , Mr. Ray, ever denied anyone their civil rights, much less for 300 years.

Would you blame the same folks for the assassination of other black leader like Malcolm X, the Notorious Big or Trayvon Martin?

He sure denied Dr King of his Civil Rights

Since when do libs see the Right to Life as a "civil right"? I thought libs believed in the right to choose?

 

[Redfish]

The GOP of Eisenhower and Nixon, and Reagan, all had excellent Civil RIghts records, and they were all conservative. YOur claims are absurd.

Eisenhower and Nixon did

Reagan used blacks to build his base

Eisenhower could have done much more for Civil Rights while he was President

THank you for admitting that Eisenhower and Nixon, two conservative REpublicans, had fine civil rights records.


Your claim about Reagan, is simply wrong. Reagan is more recent and thus more timely, thus you can't admit it yet. Give it another 20 years, and once it become moot, more of you libs will be ready to stop lying about him too.

Ike was a country club republican and Nixon a paranoid piece of shit.


Both refused to meet with MLK which is why he switched party allegiance from republic to Democratic in the 1950s.

the civil rights bill of 1964 would not have passed without republican votes, a majority of democrats voted against it.

Of course..as any thinking person knows..the 'Republicans' and the 'Democrats' of the time were constituted quite differently than today and that, in fact, it was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that was the final straw for many conservative Democrats and led to their flight to the Republican party.

Also..Eisenhower presided over Jim Crow--he gets Zilch from me..as far as credit is concerned. Reagan..well..at least he didn't get in the way..which is about the best that can be said. Reagan was post-Jim Crow though..and his record in California, when Civil rights was the issue...as Governor..was nothing to speak of.

We continue to try to judge those of the past using the standards and beliefs of today. We need to measure them using the standards and beliefs that were prevalent when they lived. Jefferson owned slaves, but he did great things for this country, should we denigrate him for the first and ignore the second?

but I get it, its all designed to gain some political advantage in the media by parroting a false narrative about some historical figure.

 

[Redfish]

MLK was assassinated because white people refused to live to values they claim in our Founding Document.

MLK was clipped by one person, a pathetic loser by the name of James E. Ray. How can you blame his death on all "white people"?

You can blame every person who denied blacks their civil rights for three hundred years

Why would you think that? I'm not sure that even the convicted assassin , Mr. Ray, ever denied anyone their civil rights, much less for 300 years.

Would you blame the same folks for the assassination of other black leader like Malcolm X, the Notorious Big or Trayvon Martin?

He sure denied Dr King of his Civil Rights

Since when do libs see the Right to Life as a "civil right"? I thought libs believed in the right to choose?

how many millions of black children have been denied their civil rights to life by democrats who support abortion on demand as a form of birth control, and support planned parenthood, an organization whose founder called blacks "human weeds that need to be exterminated"

PP has killed more blacks in one year than every slave owner in history

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

MLK was nothing but a phony reverend con man looking to make a buck. Not much different than the ones we have today.
When he was shot seems the government wanted to make in a martyr a to keep the blacks from rioting.

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

 

[Polishprince]

MLK was nothing but a phony reverend con man looking to make a buck. Not much different than the ones we have today.
When he was shot seems the government wanted to make in a martyr a to keep the blacks from rioting.

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

Well, who helped him?

Unless its known who whacked King, there is no way of knowing the motive.

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

the Civil Rights movement

 

[Ethos Logos Pathos]

MLK was nothing but a phony reverend con man looking to make a buck. Not much different than the ones we have today.
When he was shot seems the government wanted to make in a martyr a to keep the blacks from rioting.

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

Nope. Ray didn't do it, although he was successfully blamed for it.

Mrs. G.Stephens was the only one who saw the killer, face to face, immediately after he left the room therefore of course she was sent to the crazy house for refusing to agree that Ray is the man she saw.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Eisenhower and Nixon did

Reagan used blacks to build his base

Eisenhower could have done much more for Civil Rights while he was President

THank you for admitting that Eisenhower and Nixon, two conservative REpublicans, had fine civil rights records.


Your claim about Reagan, is simply wrong. Reagan is more recent and thus more timely, thus you can't admit it yet. Give it another 20 years, and once it become moot, more of you libs will be ready to stop lying about him too.

Ike was a country club republican and Nixon a paranoid piece of shit.


Both refused to meet with MLK which is why he switched party allegiance from republic to Democratic in the 1950s.

the civil rights bill of 1964 would not have passed without republican votes, a majority of democrats voted against it.

Of course..as any thinking person knows..the 'Republicans' and the 'Democrats' of the time were constituted quite differently than today and that, in fact, it was the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that was the final straw for many conservative Democrats and led to their flight to the Republican party.

Also..Eisenhower presided over Jim Crow--he gets Zilch from me..as far as credit is concerned. Reagan..well..at least he didn't get in the way..which is about the best that can be said. Reagan was post-Jim Crow though..and his record in California, when Civil rights was the issue...as Governor..was nothing to speak of.

We continue to try to judge those of the past using the standards and beliefs of today. We need to measure them using the standards and beliefs that were prevalent when they lived. Jefferson owned slaves, but he did great things for this country, should we denigrate him for the first and ignore the second?

but I get it, its all designed to gain some political advantage in the media by parroting a false narrative about some historical figure.

No, no you don't get it..sometimes..sometimes..it's about right and wrong. You call the narrative false..some call it informed. I love me some Tom Jefferson, but I'm not blind to some odd facts about him..and that he had his wife's half-sister--who was a black slave.....as a mistress and fathered 6 children with her--speaks to who he was as a man..regardless. In almost any age..that's a bit deviant.

Yeah..many use conflicting accounts and interpretations of historical events to bolster a modern day agenda. Surprise.

Semantics in interpretation is wisdom...semantics in conversation often obscures. Usually by design~

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

Nope. Ray didn't do it, although he was successfully blamed for it.

Mrs. G.Stephens was the only one who saw the killer, face to face, immediately after he left the room therefore of course she was sent to the crazy house for refusing to agree that Ray is the man she saw.

Nope..Ray did it...

Vi. Raoul And His Alleged Participation In The Assassination

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

An American Patriot who ultimately gave his life for our country

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

Well, who helped him?

Unless its known who whacked King, there is no way of knowing the motive.

I think he did it on spec--hoping for a payday..King was to be his bona-fides:

https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/james-earl-ray

"In April 4, 1968, Ray stood in the bathtub of the bathroom, balanced his rifle on a window ledge and shot King as the civil rights leader was standing on a balcony outside of his motel room. After shooting King, Ray immediately fled, setting off a manhunt that would last more than two months and cover five countries. At the time, it was said to be the FBI's most expensive and biggest investigation in its history.

Finally, on July 19, 1968, the FBI caught up with Ray in London and extradited him to the United States. Ray pleaded guilty to the murder, something he'd spend the rest of his life trying to reverse, and was sentenced to 99 years in prison.

Exactly what led Ray to kill King continues to be a source of debate, as does his role in the murder. Evidence does suggest that Ray had little stomach for the integration policies that were sweeping the country. In addition to his segregationist beliefs, he also saw a big payday, some historians have said, in killing black leaders like H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael and, of course, King."

 

[Polishprince]

King got whacked standing on a motel balcony in a tough part of town, that's a far cry from being shot in a war.

Dr. King was unfortunately denied a carry permit, so he was defenseless when James Ray capped his ass.

LOL!~

Dr. King..was killed by a for-hire assasin...because he so scared the white establishment in the South. Yeah..he was a casualty of war--same as every other person lynched since 1870.
Not sure what a carry permit would have contributed....against a sniper on a rooftop a block away!

That's certainly a theory, but an unproven one. No link was ever established between Mr. Ray and his supposed employer. And someone would have to be nuts to hire someone as shaky as Ray for a hit.

A sane assassin? LOL! Ray did it..and he had help.

Well, who helped him?

Unless its known who whacked King, there is no way of knowing the motive.

I think he did it on spec--hoping for a payday..King was to be his bona-fides:

https://www.biography.com/crime-figure/james-earl-ray

"In April 4, 1968, Ray stood in the bathtub of the bathroom, balanced his rifle on a window ledge and shot King as the civil rights leader was standing on a balcony outside of his motel room. After shooting King, Ray immediately fled, setting off a manhunt that would last more than two months and cover five countries. At the time, it was said to be the FBI's most expensive and biggest investigation in its history.

Finally, on July 19, 1968, the FBI caught up with Ray in London and extradited him to the United States. Ray pleaded guilty to the murder, something he'd spend the rest of his life trying to reverse, and was sentenced to 99 years in prison.

Exactly what led Ray to kill King continues to be a source of debate, as does his role in the murder. Evidence does suggest that Ray had little stomach for the integration policies that were sweeping the country. In addition to his segregationist beliefs, he also saw a big payday, some historians have said, in killing black leaders like H. Rap Brown, Stokely Carmichael and, of course, King."

Whacking King had nothing to do with bringing back Jim Crow. If Mr. Ray wanted to stop segregation, he would have been better advised to clip leading congressional Republicans who pushed through the civil rights act.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Ike was a country club republican and Nixon a paranoid piece of shit.


Both refused to meet with MLK which is why he switched party allegiance from republic to Democratic in the 1950s.

the civil rights bill of 1964 would not have passed without republican votes, a majority of democrats voted against it.

Wouldn’t have passed without Democratic votes and being signed into law by a Democratic President

yes, Johnson did sign it and some dems voted for it. Why don't you look up the congressional vote count and report back to us?

LBJ was one of the most racist presidents in our history, he was also a pervert and was involved in the murder of JFK. If you want to make him a hero, thats up to you, but he was a terrible human being.

LBJ did more for Civil Rights than any President since Lincoln

All he did was sign the bill passed by congress. He was a Texas racist and hated Mexicans and native americans almost as much as he hated blacks. You know nothing about who LBJ really was. you must have been schooled by liberal lying members of the teachers union in some blue state.

LBJ? Racist? Hell yeah, he was. Profane. Vulgar...consummate politician. That he was able to rise above that..is laudable, IMO.

He did more than just sign the bill..he twisted arms, he called favors...ultimately, he broke the Democratic party and handed the election to Nixon.

For the Civil Rights Act of 1964!

I was schooled by Jesuits. You?