Dr Martin Luther King saved this country

[Redfish]

Herman Cain, Clarence Thomas, Obama and Hillary all got where they are because of affirmative action. They benefitted from the opportunities of AA and the battles fought by blacks and women before them

bullshit, total bullshit. Cain and Thomas got there by hard work and intelligence, Hillary and obozo got there through corruption and lying. None of them got where they are because of AA.

If Hillary had not been married to Bill, no one would know who she was. For some reason people think holding a title because you happen to be married to the President qualifies you for something higher. I wonder how many of them would allow a surgeon's spouse to operate on them or a lawyer's spouse to defend them in court instead of the surgeon or lawyer.

Why did people vote for Mitt Romney or George W Bush?

You'll have to ask them.

Are you going to claim that Hillary's time as 1st lady qualified her to be a Senator? Retard.

Hilary's time as First Lady made her more qualified to be President than any of the current republicans

What qualifications does a famous father provide Bush or Romney

more than being a community organizer on the south side of Chicago.

 

[Redfish]

Equal treatment and special treatment are two vastly different things. AA gave some people special treatment. It was discrimination.

Declaring ...you are equal and actually being equal are two different things

Like running a race where you are given a big head start and then declaring everyone in the race is now equal

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

 

[Conservative65]

Equal treatment and special treatment are two vastly different things. AA gave some people special treatment. It was discrimination.

Declaring ...you are equal and actually being equal are two different things

Like running a race where you are given a big head start and then declaring everyone in the race is now equal

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

Because they weren't picked for something doesn't mean they weren't in the race. It means they weren't good enough to win the race. Your answer is to let them continue in the race, put them at a 100m head start in a 400m race and think they won because they finished first.

 

[rightwinger]

bullshit, total bullshit. Cain and Thomas got there by hard work and intelligence, Hillary and obozo got there through corruption and lying. None of them got where they are because of AA.

If Hillary had not been married to Bill, no one would know who she was. For some reason people think holding a title because you happen to be married to the President qualifies you for something higher. I wonder how many of them would allow a surgeon's spouse to operate on them or a lawyer's spouse to defend them in court instead of the surgeon or lawyer.

Why did people vote for Mitt Romney or George W Bush?

You'll have to ask them.

Are you going to claim that Hillary's time as 1st lady qualified her to be a Senator? Retard.

Hilary's time as First Lady made her more qualified to be President than any of the current republicans

What qualifications does a famous father provide Bush or Romney

more than being a community organizer on the south side of Chicago.

Very true

It is much harder to rise politically from a community organizer than when your daddy is a governor or president

 

[rightwinger]

Declaring ...you are equal and actually being equal are two different things

Like running a race where you are given a big head start and then declaring everyone in the race is now equal

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

 

[Conservative65]

If Hillary had not been married to Bill, no one would know who she was. For some reason people think holding a title because you happen to be married to the President qualifies you for something higher. I wonder how many of them would allow a surgeon's spouse to operate on them or a lawyer's spouse to defend them in court instead of the surgeon or lawyer.

Why did people vote for Mitt Romney or George W Bush?

You'll have to ask them.

Are you going to claim that Hillary's time as 1st lady qualified her to be a Senator? Retard.

Hilary's time as First Lady made her more qualified to be President than any of the current republicans

What qualifications does a famous father provide Bush or Romney

more than being a community organizer on the south side of Chicago.

Very true

It is much harder to rise politically from a community organizer than when your daddy is a governor or president

Not when your skin is black and that is used as the primary reason people vote for you.

 

[Conservative65]

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

 

[rightwinger]

Declaring ...you are equal and actually being equal are two different things

Like running a race where you are given a big head start and then declaring everyone in the race is now equal

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

Because they weren't picked for something doesn't mean they weren't in the race. It means they weren't good enough to win the race. Your answer is to let them continue in the race, put them at a 100m head start in a 400m race and think they won because they finished first.

Affirmative action does not guarantee your success in a job. Only an opportunity to try

It worked for millions of minorities and women

 

[rightwinger]

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb or Muggsy Bogues

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Thanks taxpayers for the paid holiday !

 

[Conservative65]

Equal opportunity does not guarantee equal results, everyone cannot win the race, some will lose.

Very true

Doesn't mean you get to keep them from entering the race

That is why we needed affirmative action

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

Because they weren't picked for something doesn't mean they weren't in the race. It means they weren't good enough to win the race. Your answer is to let them continue in the race, put them at a 100m head start in a 400m race and think they won because they finished first.

Affirmative action does not guarantee your success in a job. Only an opportunity to try

It worked for millions of minorities and women

Affirmative action takes into account something that if used to deny would be wrong. Suddenly, when it benefits, it's OK to use.

If they had to rely on their race/ethnicity or gender to get a job, they weren't qualified.

 

[Conservative65]

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

A) That's not who you mentioned
B) When someone 5'4" inches can dunk the ball, I'd say that's qualified. He didn't play because of his height or color. He was a good player.
C) When are others that height going to be given an opportunity?

 

[Redfish]

If Hillary had not been married to Bill, no one would know who she was. For some reason people think holding a title because you happen to be married to the President qualifies you for something higher. I wonder how many of them would allow a surgeon's spouse to operate on them or a lawyer's spouse to defend them in court instead of the surgeon or lawyer.

Why did people vote for Mitt Romney or George W Bush?

You'll have to ask them.

Are you going to claim that Hillary's time as 1st lady qualified her to be a Senator? Retard.

Hilary's time as First Lady made her more qualified to be President than any of the current republicans

What qualifications does a famous father provide Bush or Romney

more than being a community organizer on the south side of Chicago.

Very true

It is much harder to rise politically from a community organizer than when your daddy is a governor or president

especially when you have a biased media who refuses to properly vet a minority candidate.

 

[Redfish]

You don't want entering, you want them put ahead using a characteristic others don't have the ability to use.

If someone needs it, tells me they aren't capable of doing it on their own. So much for equal opportunity. You want unequal results if you support using certain skin colors through an OFFICIAL policy.

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

He's not Asian and he got in the NBA on talent, not affirmative action.

 

[Conservative65]

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

He's not Asian and he got in the NBA on talent, not affirmative action.

Anyone 5'4" that can dunk has talent. I actually got to watch him play live several times. His size, or lack of in relation to others in the NBA, didn't slow him down.

 

[rightwinger]

You allow them to enter a race they were previously blocked from even trying

Whether they finish the race is up to them

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

A) That's not who you mentioned
B) When someone 5'4" inches can dunk the ball, I'd say that's qualified. He didn't play because of his height or color. He was a good player.
C) When are others that height going to be given an opportunity?

I think you are starting to understand affirmative action

When you automatically exclude a player who is 5 ft 4 because he is too short you are discriminating. Neither Spud Webb nor Muggsy Bogues was entitled to a job once they got their shot

Same mentality applied to women and minorities. They were told they were not qualified for professional or management jobs because they were women or because they were black

Affirmative action said you have to give them a shot

 

[Conservative65]

can a 5'4" Asian get shot at the NBA using AA?

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

A) That's not who you mentioned
B) When someone 5'4" inches can dunk the ball, I'd say that's qualified. He didn't play because of his height or color. He was a good player.
C) When are others that height going to be given an opportunity?

I think you are starting to understand affirmative action

When you automatically exclude a player who is 5 ft 4 because he is too short you are discriminating. Neither Spud Webb nor Muggsy Bogues was entitled to a job once they got their shot

Same mentality applied to women and minorities. They were told they were not qualified for professional or management jobs because they were women or because they were black

Affirmative action said you have to give them a shot

Affirmative action took into account a characteristic that wasn't taken in for white or males that you said was wrong when it was used to deny. Affirmative action took into account race if someone was a minority. Special efforts have to be put in place to make sure blacks get interviewed. The Rooney Rule in the NFL does just that.

 

[rightwinger]

Yao Ming and Jeremy Linn did quite well

They're 5'4" tall?

Try Spud Webb

A) That's not who you mentioned
B) When someone 5'4" inches can dunk the ball, I'd say that's qualified. He didn't play because of his height or color. He was a good player.
C) When are others that height going to be given an opportunity?

I think you are starting to understand affirmative action

When you automatically exclude a player who is 5 ft 4 because he is too short you are discriminating. Neither Spud Webb nor Muggsy Bogues was entitled to a job once they got their shot

Same mentality applied to women and minorities. They were told they were not qualified for professional or management jobs because they were women or because they were black

Affirmative action said you have to give them a shot

Affirmative action took into account a characteristic that wasn't taken in for white or males that you said was wrong when it was used to deny. Affirmative action took into account race if someone was a minority. Special efforts have to be put in place to make sure blacks get interviewed. The Rooney Rule in the NFL does just that.

Yes it does

Affirmative Action addresses the response to the question..... Why are there no blacks or women in your management or executive ranks?

The response was....none are qualified for those positions. But when women and blacks are not even interviewed or given a chance at entry level positions ..... They can't prove they are qualified

Affirmative action took care of that

 

[basquebromance]

 

[DigitalDrifter]

"Dr Martin Luther King saved this country"