Drudge: Great Abortion article; 55 million abortions since roe/wade

[chikenwing]

I love the ghouls who maintain that trying to save babies isn't an indication of caring for them...that you can only TRULY care if you vote a straight progressive ticket....

I would be considerably more impressed with your concern for babies if you showed concern for the ones that are actually born.

Or the ones in Israel.

Relevance??

Dead is dead no matter what country you are standing in.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I would be considerably more impressed with your concern for babies if you showed concern for the ones that are actually born.

Or the ones in Israel.

Relevance??

Dead is dead no matter what country you are standing in.

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

 

[koshergrl]

What nonsense.

 

[hazlnut]

We're number 4 in the world on Abortions.

Shameful.

Come one America, we can beat China and Russia!!

 

[chikenwing]

Or the ones in Israel.

Relevance??

Dead is dead no matter what country you are standing in.

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

Well talk about painting with a shotgun,It is their choice to make as a country, still doesn't make it right. Haven't seen anyone other than abortion supporters say its right for Israel to provide abortion. You got a link?,or are you just confused ,because when a pro life person says its Israel's choice ,that doesn't mean they support or approve,kinda inconvenient isn't?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I love the ghouls who maintain that trying to save babies isn't an indication of caring for them...that you can only TRULY care if you vote a straight progressive ticket....

I would be considerably more impressed with your concern for babies if you showed concern for the ones that are actually born.

Oh, do elaborate...

BTW.. we'd be considerable more swayed by your argument that you care if you weren't such a proponent of killing them off in the womb as a matter of economic convenience.

Just say'n...

 

[ClosedCaption]

Relevance??

Dead is dead no matter what country you are standing in.

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

Well talk about painting with a shotgun,It is their choice to make as a country, still doesn't make it right. Haven't seen anyone other than abortion supporters say its right for Israel to provide abortion. You got a link?,or are you just confused ,because when a pro life person says its Israel's choice ,that doesn't mean they support or approve,kinda inconvenient isn't?

Israel Offers Free Abortions To Women Between 20 And 33

You havent heard anyone say its right for Israel to provide abortions. Have you heard ANY REPUBLICAN SAY ANYTHING about Israel Abortion policy? curious aint it?

 

[koshergrl]

Relevance??

Dead is dead no matter what country you are standing in.

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

Well talk about painting with a shotgun,It is their choice to make as a country, still doesn't make it right. Haven't seen anyone other than abortion supporters say its right for Israel to provide abortion. You got a link?,or are you just confused ,because when a pro life person says its Israel's choice ,that doesn't mean they support or approve,kinda inconvenient isn't?

He's confused. The whole mantra is that we support abortion in Israel because we provide them military aid.

The implication being that they're using military aid to pay for abortions...which has never been supported.

It's just a nonsensical argument. Like the argument "You can't be pro-life if you don't vote progressive!" It's just crazy nonsense.

As is his weird assertion that I'm a *huge* supporter of Israel. I've never said any such thing, it's also complete jibberish on his part.

Baby killers are a strange lot.

 

[ClosedCaption]

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

Well talk about painting with a shotgun,It is their choice to make as a country, still doesn't make it right. Haven't seen anyone other than abortion supporters say its right for Israel to provide abortion. You got a link?,or are you just confused ,because when a pro life person says its Israel's choice ,that doesn't mean they support or approve,kinda inconvenient isn't?

He's confused. The whole mantra is that we support abortion in Israel because we provide them military aid.

No one but you added in the bolded part

The implication being that they're using military aid to pay for abortions...which has never been supported.

No one said that either but this is your way to change the subject rather than deal with what I actually say

It's just a nonsensical argument. Like the argument "You can't be pro-life if you don't vote progressive!" It's just crazy nonsense.

Of course its nonsense thats why it came from you

As is his weird assertion that I'm a *huge* supporter of Israel. I've never said any such thing, it's also complete jibberish on his part.

Baby killers are a strange lot.

So after all that did you see where she gave any opinion on Israels abortion policy? Yep, me neither. Because shes trying every bs tactic she has to avoid it.

 

[koshergrl]

I can't wait for you to latch onto some other nonsensical argument that you think makes you look brilliant.

 

[ClosedCaption]

I can't wait for you to latch onto some other nonsensical argument that you think makes you look brilliant.

I'm waiting for you to respond to any of my arguements without changing them into some strawman you create

 

[koshergrl]

You haven't made any arguments. You're just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

When you make an argument, I will respond to it.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You haven't made any arguments. You're just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

When you make an argument, I will respond to it.

What is your opinion of Israel murdering children in the womb with Govt Funds?

 

[chikenwing]

You haven't made any arguments. You're just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

When you make an argument, I will respond to it.

What is your opinion of Israel murdering children in the womb with Govt Funds?

I'll butt in and repeat myself,its a reprehensible thing to do in any country,its their country to fuck up, as long as no money from the US is used and thats the way it looks to be,all that is left is to disagree.

Now you can try and twist that around all you want,won't change a thing.

 

[ClosedCaption]

You haven't made any arguments. You're just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

When you make an argument, I will respond to it.

What is your opinion of Israel murdering children in the womb with Govt Funds?

I'll butt in and repeat myself,its a reprehensible thing to do in any country,its their country to fuck up, as long as no money from the US is used and thats the way it looks to be,all that is left is to disagree.

Now you can try and twist that around all you want,won't change a thing.

You I like, You have integrity and principals.

Kosher..not so much. Shes been screaming Baby murder since page one then suddenly gets really quiet depending on WHO does the baby murdering.

 

[BDBoop]

Kosher says the US is in decline because we allow baby killers. Kosher is a huge supporter of Israel as is most republicans. Kosher nor other Republicans believe its wrong or "killing" when Israel does it. I would like to know why if this is a religious deal with them then why be quiet with Israel?

Well talk about painting with a shotgun,It is their choice to make as a country, still doesn't make it right. Haven't seen anyone other than abortion supporters say its right for Israel to provide abortion. You got a link?,or are you just confused ,because when a pro life person says its Israel's choice ,that doesn't mean they support or approve,kinda inconvenient isn't?

Israel Offers Free Abortions To Women Between 20 And 33

You havent heard anyone say its right for Israel to provide abortions. Have you heard ANY REPUBLICAN SAY ANYTHING about Israel Abortion policy? curious aint it?

Truly, truly.

And so how much of our money (Seawytch did a thread on the subject) that we send as aid to Israel, is going to abortions?

 

[Warrior102]

What is your opinion of Israel murdering children in the womb with Govt Funds?

It was never legal in Israel to own black slaves as it was in the U.S.
Guess you're OK with slavery, huh dingbat - since it was legal, and by choice?

What a blubbering idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

I love the ghouls who maintain that trying to save babies isn't an indication of caring for them...that you can only TRULY care if you vote a straight progressive ticket....

I would be considerably more impressed with your concern for babies if you showed concern for the ones that are actually born.

Oh, do elaborate...

BTW.. we'd be considerable more swayed by your argument that you care if you weren't such a proponent of killing them off in the womb as a matter of economic convenience.

Just say'n...

Where did I say I cared?

I really don't care about this issue, beyond the joy I get out of seeing you religious fucks sputter that women are controlling their own lady parts.

Now, we could reduce the number of abortions by being more like those European Socialists you all hate so much. But you guys don't want to go there.... Once that kids in the Fourth Trimester, he's on his own.

 

[koshergrl]

You haven't made any arguments. You're just spouting irrelevant nonsense.

When you make an argument, I will respond to it.

What is your opinion of Israel murdering children in the womb with Govt Funds?

You mean with military funds we send them?

You haven't established that it's happening.

 

[Knightfall]

I agree that saying life begins at the moment of conception, when nothing remotely resembling humanity has been created, is ridiculous. On the other hand, that little packet of cells starts resembling a baby pretty quickly. It seems to me that since death is widely understood to be the cessation of brain activity, the beginning of brain activity should be the marker for the beginning of life. Brain waves can be detected at six weeks after conception. You want to kill that packed of cells before that point? Have at it. After that point, you are killing a thinking life form with its own human genetic code. That is the very definition of humanity.

Life does begin at conception which is widely held scientific view.

Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization | LifeNews.com

appropriate sources linked in article.

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

Life begins at conception, science teaches | Live Action News

So if biology states this, then how can the pro-abortion crowd possibly defend the indefensible? This isn't dogma, this isn't religion, it's scientific fact.

I'm with you for the most part; I only disagree with you on one point, brain activity.

Logic tells you that a being without a brain cannot be human; in the moments directly after conception, nothing remotely resembling a brain exists. There are many cases in which people's brains have died, and their bodies live on for a time, but at those moments, nobody really believes the person is still there. Every sane counselor, friend and objective family member will tell the family member in charge to pull the plug because that is just a shell; the person has moved on. Unless you are willing to argue that a brain dead individual is still a living soul, you cannot argue that a clump of cells without even a brain to be active is a living soul.

Also if you hold that life begins at conception, all chemical contraception is murder. Birth control works be keeping an egg from being dropped, and that does prevent contraception, but the process does not work anywhere near 100% of the time, so as a secondary precaution, birth control removes the uterine lining so that a conceived egg will not stick in the womb and develop. Perhaps you knew that and are consistent in your actions, but I dare say a large percentage and perhaps a majority of pro-life people have aborted a fertilized egg in this way at some point. Personally, I don't think that's human life and I have no problem with it, but to be consistent in your position, you would have to view that as murder and just as despicable as abortion.

I agree that saying life begins at the moment of conception, when nothing remotely resembling humanity has been created, is ridiculous. On the other hand, that little packet of cells starts resembling a baby pretty quickly. It seems to me that since death is widely understood to be the cessation of brain activity, the beginning of brain activity should be the marker for the beginning of life. Brain waves can be detected at six weeks after conception. You want to kill that packed of cells before that point? Have at it. After that point, you are killing a thinking life form with its own human genetic code. That is the very definition of humanity.

Life does begin at conception which is widely held scientific view.

Scientific Fact: Human Life Begins at Conception, or Fertilization | LifeNews.com

appropriate sources linked in article.

Life Begins at Fertilization with the Embryo's Conception

Life begins at conception, science teaches | Live Action News

So if biology states this, then how can the pro-abortion crowd possibly defend the indefensible? This isn't dogma, this isn't religion, it's scientific fact.

And you have every right to hold that view, with the understanding that this is not the legal standard; prior to birth, the embryo/fetus is not entitled to Constitutional protections:

Planned Parenthood of Southeastern Pa. v. Casey, 505 U.S. 833 (1992)

This is a question of what should be not what is.