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[trevorjohnson83]

OK, I did this quickly so there might be a few errors, but you get the gist:

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good one. so you are all for the orbiting electron and against my core theory?

 

[trevorjohnson83]

lets see came up with the core theory about a year ago, spent the first 40 years of my life thinking about the electron, I don't know why I have to take this crap from you people, just admit the electron is stupid.

 

[ReinyDays]

Can you help me develop a mathematical model for aether temperature affecting spin?

Assistant
Poe


Creating a mathematical model to describe how aether temperature affects spin is a speculative endeavor, as "aether" is not a recognized concept in contemporary physics. However, we can outline a conceptual framework to help guide the development of such a model based on your ideas.

Conceptual Framework​

1. Definitions:
   • Let TaTa be the aether temperature.
   • Let SS be the spin of an atom or molecule.
   • Let EE represent the energy associated with the system.
2. Energy Relationship:
   • The energy of a system can be influenced by temperature. For instance, the kinetic energy of particles can be expressed as:
     E=kBTaE=kBTa
     where kBkB is Boltzmann's constant.
3. Spin Dynamics:
   • Assume that spin SS is affected by thermal energy. You might propose a relationship where the spin increases with temperature up to a certain threshold:
     S=S0+k⋅TaS=S0+k⋅Ta
     where S0S0 is the intrinsic spin at absolute zero and kk is a proportionality constant.
4. Aether Interaction:
   • If you hypothesize that the aether influences spin through some interaction, you could introduce a term that modifies the spin based on the characteristics of the aether:
     S=S0+k⋅Ta+f(Ta,aether properties)S=S0+k⋅Ta+f(Ta,aether properties)
     Here, ff could be a function that describes how aether properties (like density or pressure) influence spin.
5. Equilibrium Condition:
   • You might introduce an equilibrium condition where the increase in spin energy due to temperature must balance with the system's total energy:
     Etotal=Espin+Ethermal⇒Etotal=12IS2+kBTaEtotal=Espin+Ethermal⇒Etotal=21IS2+kBTa
     where II is the moment of inertia related to the spinning body.

Example Model​

Putting it all together, you could propose a basic model:

1. Energy Equation:
   Etotal=12I(S0+kTa+f(Ta))2+kBTaEtotal=21I(S0+kTa+f(Ta))2+kBTa
2. Solving for Spin:
   To find the spin SS at a given aether temperature TaTa:
   S=S0+kTa+f(Ta)S=S0+kTa+f(Ta)

Next Steps​

To refine this model:

• Determine Constants: Empirical data or assumptions will help determine the values of S0S0, kk, and the function ff.
• Conduct Simulations: Use computational models to simulate the effects of varying TaTa and assess how it influences SS.
• Validation: Compare predictions from your model with experimental data, such as spin behaviors in different materials at various temperatures.

This framework should serve as a starting point for developing your mathematical model. Further elaboration and refinement will be needed based on specific hypotheses and empirical evidence.

Can you show how this conserves energy? ... any energy within the æther doesn't cross over to rotational motion, not without a torque being applied ... or we'd have noticed already ...

We can account for all spin motion and kinetic energy in the universe without relying on the æther ... that's why we trust the conservation law ... perhaps if you could isolate some so we can examine it's properties, we might be better able to cook up some math ... AI recommends your next step is to gather empirical data ...

Have fun storming the castle ...

 

[trevorjohnson83]

What experimental evidence could support the aether spin theory?

Assistant
Poe


To support the aether spin theory, a variety of experimental approaches could be considered. While the concept of aether itself is not widely accepted in modern physics, exploring its implications could yield interesting lines of inquiry. Here are several potential avenues for experimental evidence:

1. Spin Measurement Experiments​

• Atomic Spin Variations: Conduct experiments to measure the spin states of atoms or molecules at varying temperatures and under different aether conditions (e.g., in different environments or vacuum states) to observe any correlations with aether temperature.
• Quantum Spin States: Utilize techniques like magnetic resonance to investigate whether the spin states of particles change in response to temperature variations, hypothesizing a link to aether characteristics.

2. Thermal Conductivity Studies​

• Heat Transfer Experiments: Investigate the thermal conductivity of materials in different environments (e.g., varying pressures or in vacuum) and compare how these conditions correlate with expected aether temperature effects on atomic motion and spin.
• Phase Transition Analysis: Examine how phase transitions in materials (solid to liquid, etc.) respond to changes in environmental conditions that could be interpreted as variations in aether properties.

3. Electromagnetic Phenomena​

• Electricity Generation: Test systems designed to generate electricity from thermal or vibrational energy at different aether conditions to see if there are consistent patterns that align with predictions from aether spin theory.
• Piezoelectric Effects: Explore the relationship between applied pressure and generated electrical voltage in piezoelectric materials under controlled aether conditions.

4. Resonance and Frequency Studies​

• Resonant Frequency Shifts: Investigate whether the resonant frequencies of materials change with environmental conditions that could be linked to aether properties, suggesting an interaction between aether and the material's atomic structure.

5. Cosmological Observations​

• Cosmic Background Radiation: Analyze variations in cosmic microwave background radiation and explore whether they can be related to local aether conditions and their influence on the spin of particles in the early universe.
• Gravitational Effects: Study gravitational phenomena and whether they exhibit any unusual characteristics that could suggest a connection to aether dynamics.

6. Interferometry Experiments​

• Light Interference Patterns: Use interferometry to measure potential shifts in light propagation that might indicate how aether influences electromagnetic waves, particularly as they interact with matter.

Conclusion​

Gathering experimental evidence to support the aether spin theory would require innovative approaches and careful design to isolate the effects of the proposed aether interactions. Collaboration with physicists and material scientists could help refine these experimental ideas and develop a robust methodology for testing the theory's predictions.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

Can you show how this conserves energy? ... any energy within the æther doesn't cross over to rotational motion, not without a torque being applied ... or we'd have noticed already ...

We can account for all spin motion and kinetic energy in the universe without relying on the æther ... that's why we trust the conservation law ... perhaps if you could isolate some so we can examine it's properties, we might be better able to cook up some math ... AI recommends your next step is to gather empirical data ...

Have fun storming the castle ...

conservation of energy. : a principle in physics that states that energy can neither be created nor destroyed and that the total energy of a system by itself remains constant.

The sun which is a continuous source of energy provides the aether temperature that converts to spin of the 'atom'. The computer used different symbols in the original math that were much more organized but I can't copy paste them. Do you understand what I posted?