Economy is doing far better, but we don't know it

They don't to retrain. Life changes, and it will for them, took, for better or worse.
I don't see how a 50 year old retrains. You lose a job that pays 60K plus ... and you take a counter help job.

I remember Obama financed retraining laid off auto workers as welders ... and nobody wanted to hire welders. If you don't have the aptitude to manipulate abstract data, you're pretty fucked in America, unless you get really lucky.
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
Which will increase monthly while Trump is in office and his train wreck of economic policy wreaks havoc on American workers.
and if it doesnt and he does pretty good?......will you be here saying so jake?....just asking....
No matter how "good" Tramp does the 95 million will increase by millions.

You know this because....
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.
Reagan had similar economy and it was fixed in 3 years...we had.no growth under Obama, no excuse for.that.
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all there was $12 trillion in debt at the end of Bush's last fiscal year and we are not $24 trillion in debt now.
And secondly there will be 110+ million not working but eating under Tramp, and $40 trillion in debt.

Are you high? This makes no sense.... eating under Tramp?
October 15, 2013
RUSH: We've got a lot of people -- look, 90 million Americans -- I love to put it this way 'cause I think it's the proper perspective. Ninety million Americans are not working, Donna, but they're eating. What does that mean? That's over 10 New York Cities that are not working. But they're eating, which means somebody's buying their sustenance, and that somebody is somebody else, is the government. They are eating.
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.
Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.
that was MOSTLY because of the American entrepreneur,as it was with every administration....they are the ones investing their money....they deserve most of the credit....
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all, there are not 95,000,000 people unemployed. there are 7,400,000 unemployed.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

There are 95,000,000 people who are not in the labor force.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Name the last president who left office with less than a record number of people not in labor force...?

So, if you're not working, but of working age, you're not unemployed? How's that work?
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all there was $12 trillion in debt at the end of Bush's last fiscal year and we are not $24 trillion in debt now.
And secondly there will be 110+ million not working but eating under Tramp, and $40 trillion in debt.


$10.6T with $0.76T TARP money to be paid back to Obama but charged under Bush years. So call it $10T. We are now almost at $20T. OCT 30 2017 ends BOs' books.

The DEMWITTED congress crashed the housing market late 2008 (yes GWB did not stop it, on that we agree). Obammy was part of the crash (Senator do-nothing).

Then BO gets the media to snow-job you idiots into the WH (twice?) and he blames GWB 100% when he should also be blaming himself and Clinton and and and and..
 
President Obama Weighs His Economic Legacy

President Obama's hit on the crux of the Trump phenomenon. His administration has done much over the last 8 years to alleviate economic suffering, but the white, lower/middle class people who are struggling don't seem to be hearing the message, or don't want to hear it.
They believe Trump will bring them high paying jobs requiring no skills or education. How stupid can you be. And what if a lot of our trade stops? How many more jobs will be lost?

Republicans want to finish the job they started under Bush.
 
Which will increase monthly while Trump is in office and his train wreck of economic policy wreaks havoc on American workers.

Oh wow, you must have a top of the line crystal ball!
Want to bet? :lol:

No, I don't gamble...
It is not a gamble, it is a fact, therefore you are being asked to WARRANTY that the 95 million will not increase under Tramp.

How could I possibly do that? Who knows what will happen with the cluster fuck that is the Obama economy... shit could blow up at any minute.
Trampsters already know Tramp will screw up the economy and are preemptively blaming Obama for Tramp's expected failure. Tramp will be the worst president in history.
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all, there are not 95,000,000 people unemployed. there are 7,400,000 unemployed.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

There are 95,000,000 people who are not in the labor force.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Name the last president who left office with less than a record number of people not in labor force...?

So, if you're not working, but of working age, you're not unemployed? How's that work?
Some people are in college.
Some people are disabled.
Some people are retired.
Some are watching the kids while their spouse works.

Get the picture?
 
Oh wow, you must have a top of the line crystal ball!
Want to bet? :lol:

No, I don't gamble...
It is not a gamble, it is a fact, therefore you are being asked to WARRANTY that the 95 million will not increase under Tramp.

How could I possibly do that? Who knows what will happen with the cluster fuck that is the Obama economy... shit could blow up at any minute.
Trampsters already know Tramp will screw up the economy and are preemptively blaming Obama for Tramp's expected failure. Tramp will be the worst president in history.

Again, you know this how?
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.
Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.
that was MOSTLY because of the American entrepreneur,as it was with every administration....they are the ones investing their money....they deserve most of the credit....


Fracking (on private lands) helped a lot to drive down Oil (despite BO). This was a true mini-stimulus into working mans weekly take home. I had to drive a lot. extra $100-$200 dollars/mo save easily........this went directly back into economy. Multiply $100x150mil workers = $15B/mo free money. Thank you Fracking man.
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
Which will increase monthly while Trump is in office and his train wreck of economic policy wreaks havoc on American workers.
and if it doesnt and he does pretty good?......will you be here saying so jake?....just asking....
No matter how "good" Tramp does the 95 million will increase by millions.
same question to you ed.....if it doesnt,will you be here saying you were wrong?....once again,just asking....
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all there was $12 trillion in debt at the end of Bush's last fiscal year and we are not $24 trillion in debt now.
And secondly there will be 110+ million not working but eating under Tramp, and $40 trillion in debt.
$10.6T with $0.76T TARP money to be paid back to Obama but charged under Bush years. So call it $10T.
$11.9 trillion, call it $12 trillion.

Government - Historical Debt Outstanding - Annual 2000 - 2015

09/30/2009 $11,909,829,003,511.75
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.

It was more about paying back the UAW for voting for him.

They used that money to straighten out their mismanaged pension fund.

Douchebag used our tax dollars to do it. We still don't have our money back.

The auto industry, GMC and Chrysler still went bankrupt which they could have done without our tax dollars.

Fed tax money should never be used to bail out any company.

Too bad your thinking, excuse the use of the term in your case, is flawed. If GM and Chrysler went out of business we would have experienced a greater economic collapse than we did.
 
Obama's legacy:

More debt than all his predecessors combine... 95,000,000 unemployed....
First of all, there are not 95,000,000 people unemployed. there are 7,400,000 unemployed.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

There are 95,000,000 people who are not in the labor force.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Name the last president who left office with less than a record number of people not in labor force...?

So, if you're not working, but of working age, you're not unemployed? How's that work?
Some people are in college.
Some people are disabled.
Some people are retired.
Some are watching the kids while their spouse works.

Get the picture?


It was always like that?...........The labor participation rate is lowest of modern times. Why is everything special or different under this guy BO? same country as under Jimmy Carter......did he have no old? college? disabled? retired?
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.

It was more about paying back the UAW for voting for him.

They used that money to straighten out their mismanaged pension fund.

Douchebag used our tax dollars to do it. We still don't have our money back.

The auto industry, GMC and Chrysler still went bankrupt which they could have done without our tax dollars.

Fed tax money should never be used to bail out any company.

Too bad your thinking, excuse the use of the term in your case, is flawed. If GM and Chrysler went out of business we would have experienced a greater economic collapse than we did.

They wouldn't have gone out of business. That's what bankruptcy is for. You reorganize and reopen. Our tax money should have never been given to any company.

Hell. They used that money for their pension fund and filed for bankruptcy anyway.
 
I think some of you folks have either short term memory problems or selective memory. But the economy was in really bad shape in 2009 when Obama was sworn in. Auto industry was about to go bust and unemployment rate was almost 10%.

Obama saved the auto industry and unemployment rate is now down to 4.5% and 10 million jobs have been created. Obama did a lot of things wrong during his presidency but the economy wasn't one of them.

It was more about paying back the UAW for voting for him.

They used that money to straighten out their mismanaged pension fund.

Douchebag used our tax dollars to do it. We still don't have our money back.

The auto industry, GMC and Chrysler still went bankrupt which they could have done without our tax dollars.

Fed tax money should never be used to bail out any company.

Too bad your thinking, excuse the use of the term in your case, is flawed. If GM and Chrysler went out of business we would have experienced a greater economic collapse than we did.


They could have shed the Union costs. The Italians bought Chrysler. Someone would have taken over GM too. I think the FED lost $33B on GM stock sale?
 

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