Education: When Liberals Took Charge

Most people don't read because there's little time to do it. Working at least 40 hours a week until they are thoroughly exhausted takes up alit of time.


There are 168 hours in a week.

Every week,

Imagine the time you'd have for reading and educating yourself if you'd give up hand-wringing.
 
I read every night in bed for at least 1/2 hr- before I took up playin at playin guitar again I read a lot during the day- but, being retired I can do what I want-
 
I read every night in bed for at least 1/2 hr- before I took up playin at playin guitar again I read a lot during the day- but, being retired I can do what I want-

I love reading.

Here, from a memoir of a girl who grew up in Mao's China, is very similar to the dunce who wrote earlier, that he had no time for reading.

"Most peasants did not miss the school. “What’s the point?” they would say. “You pay fees and read for years, and in the end you are still a peasant, earning your food with your sweat. You don’t get a grain of rice more for being able to read books. Why waste time and money? Might as well start earning your work points right away.” The virtual absence of any chance of a better future and the near total immobility for anyone born a peasant took the incentive out of the pursuit of knowledge."
Chang, "Wild Swans."



My view is very different.

“I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library.”

― Jorge Luis Borges
 
"There are now about 5,000 schools in the U.S. that use some form of the Core Knowledge curriculum, developed by Mr. Hirsch’s foundation. And research suggests Mr. Hirsch is right. A recent large-scale randomized study of public-school pupils in kindergarten through second grade found that use of the Core Knowledge Language Arts curriculum had statistically significant benefits for vocabulary, science knowledge, and social-studies knowledge.

Even in poor neighborhoods, kids at Core Knowledge schools perform well and are admitted to competitive high schools. From the South Bronx Classical Charter School to the public schools in Sullivan County, Tenn., Mr. Hirsch is clearly proud that his ideas have helped the least privileged kids in America."


Time and again we see that, for Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, ideology is far more important than results.

What is surprising is that parents are willing to sacrifice the mental development of their children on the alter of political correctness.
 
....education died.

1.When I was reading posts this morn, I came upon the name of one of my heroes…“E. D. Hirsch wrote a great article for the WSJ last week on how the school systems ruined the country.” Critical Race Theory.

2. If you are interested in the education of our children, and the reason that it has ceased, the two men that need be studies are E.D. Hirsch, whose methods and views produced an amazing educational success, known as the Massachusetts Miracle, and another man, Marxist Paolo Friere who believes believed that indoctrination for communism and in opposition to capitalism, is the purpose of government schooling.

Sadly, it is the latter whose views are dominant in education.



3. I found two recent articles about Hirsch, truly an embarrassment of riches.

“Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?
E.D. Hirsch is absolutely correct when he states: “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction in which a teacher directly communicates information.”
Opinion | Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?

and

Bad Teaching Is Tearing America Apart
Education’s dumbing down frays the bonds of citizenship and is hardest on the poor, says E.D. Hirsch, the man who wrote the book on cultural literacy.”



4. For the necessary context, Friere, the darling of ed schools, doesn’t endorse teaching actual factual content. “The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” … Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.” Pedagogy of the Oppressor



5. Now for Hirsch’s view: Real education involves discipline, and accountability....both from students and teachers.
The student must have a base of knowledge. "Hirsch was also convinced that the problem of inadequate background knowledge began in the early grades. Elementary school teachers thus had to be more explicit about imparting such knowledge to students—indeed, this was even more important than teaching the “skills” of reading and writing, Hirsch believed. Hirsch’s insight contravened the conventional wisdom in the nation’s education schools: that teaching facts was unimportant, and that students instead should learn “how to” skills. …expanded the argument in a 1983 article, titled “Cultural Literacy,” in The American Scholar." E. D. Hirsch’s Curriculum for Democracy


Here's proof it works:
The “Massachusetts miracle,” in which Bay State students’ soaring test scores broke records, was the direct consequence of the state legislature’s passage of the 1993 Education Reform Act, which established knowledge-based standards for all grades and a rigorous testing system linked to the new standards. And those standards, Massachusetts reformers have acknowledged, are Hirsch’s legacy.

Unless our system can be wrested from Friere and returned to Hirsch, America is doomed.
Direct full classroom teaching is the right method of teaching especially in grades 1-3. Computers have a place in instruction but it's not for the early grades and should be used for academic review and testing the students on the curriculum they are being taught.

Students react much better to direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused; and turning the classroom over to students to "teach" a lesson that was presented the day before.
 
My love for reading began with, believe it or not, 1984- I was in the 8th or 9th grade. I didn't go out of my way to find reading material but I always read the Sunday Fort Worth Star Telegram- and Hot Rod Magazine technical articles- in the Navy I read the Carpet Baggers by Harold Robbins which led me to liking historical referenced novels- The Gift of Rain by Tan Tvan Eng is a favorite- as are Westerns with historical perspective, like my all time favorite Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry and The Time It Never rained by Elmer Kelton. Laura Hillenbrands Unbroken was both uplifting and... eye opening.
I do admire, and envy, a good story teller-
 
....education died.

1.When I was reading posts this morn, I came upon the name of one of my heroes…“E. D. Hirsch wrote a great article for the WSJ last week on how the school systems ruined the country.” Critical Race Theory.

2. If you are interested in the education of our children, and the reason that it has ceased, the two men that need be studies are E.D. Hirsch, whose methods and views produced an amazing educational success, known as the Massachusetts Miracle, and another man, Marxist Paolo Friere who believes believed that indoctrination for communism and in opposition to capitalism, is the purpose of government schooling.

Sadly, it is the latter whose views are dominant in education.



3. I found two recent articles about Hirsch, truly an embarrassment of riches.

“Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?
E.D. Hirsch is absolutely correct when he states: “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction in which a teacher directly communicates information.”
Opinion | Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?

and

Bad Teaching Is Tearing America Apart
Education’s dumbing down frays the bonds of citizenship and is hardest on the poor, says E.D. Hirsch, the man who wrote the book on cultural literacy.”



4. For the necessary context, Friere, the darling of ed schools, doesn’t endorse teaching actual factual content. “The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” … Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.” Pedagogy of the Oppressor



5. Now for Hirsch’s view: Real education involves discipline, and accountability....both from students and teachers.
The student must have a base of knowledge. "Hirsch was also convinced that the problem of inadequate background knowledge began in the early grades. Elementary school teachers thus had to be more explicit about imparting such knowledge to students—indeed, this was even more important than teaching the “skills” of reading and writing, Hirsch believed. Hirsch’s insight contravened the conventional wisdom in the nation’s education schools: that teaching facts was unimportant, and that students instead should learn “how to” skills. …expanded the argument in a 1983 article, titled “Cultural Literacy,” in The American Scholar." E. D. Hirsch’s Curriculum for Democracy


Here's proof it works:
The “Massachusetts miracle,” in which Bay State students’ soaring test scores broke records, was the direct consequence of the state legislature’s passage of the 1993 Education Reform Act, which established knowledge-based standards for all grades and a rigorous testing system linked to the new standards. And those standards, Massachusetts reformers have acknowledged, are Hirsch’s legacy.

Unless our system can be wrested from Friere and returned to Hirsch, America is doomed.
Direct full classroom teaching is the right method of teaching especially in grades 1-3. Computers have a place in instruction but it's not for the early grades and should be used for academic review and testing the students on the curriculum they are being taught.

Students react much better to direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused; and turning the classroom over to students to "teach" a lesson that was presented the day before.


In full disclosure, we're a home school family, and chose K12.com, a computer curriculum.


I would agree with your " direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused" except for the fact that these are no longer the teachers that, I suspect, you and I had....educated, knowledgeable, learned non-political individuals.


1. "Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal A third-grade teacher at a public school in New Jersey is under fire after she encouraged her students to write letters to notorious convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who recently fell ill in prison.

Marylin Zuniga teaches language arts and social studies at Forest Street School in Orange, N.J."

Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal



2. - School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists


"School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists
The teacher also told Sommer that her son was not supposed to take the Nation of Islam handout home. It was supposed to stay in the classroom. That bit of news caused her great alarm.
“The fact that students were cautioned against allowing their parents to see anything is deeply troubling,” West told me. “The only reasonable explanation is they don’t want parents to know what it is their children are learning.”

3. Under pressure from transgender activists, progressive politicians, teacher unions, and the education establishment, and despite parents’ opposition, America’s public schools are capitulating to ideologues and implementing the radical transgender agenda with full force.
...regardless of biological sex, .... Activists want every child, from kindergarten on, to learn that “sex” is something “assigned at birth” rather than a biological reality. They want children to think that individuals get to choose their own “gender identity” (not limited to male or female), and that everyone else must affirm that “gender identity” as true.


...nothing that parents (or teachers) can do to prevent the schools from imposing policies designed to indoctrinate children with gender ideology.

In public education, the “deep state” describes a coalition of various groups – including teachers’ unions, progressive advocacy groups, major corporations, and philanthropists --that work together to promote the progressive worldview..."
America’s Public Education System: The Ultimate Deep State

4. “Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist
The Seattle Public Schools Ethnic Studies Advisory Committee (ESAC) released a rough draft of notes for its Math Ethnic Studies framework in late September, which attempts to connects math to a history of oppression.” Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist

5. “The sex and gender revolutionaries have officially taken over the Austin Independent School District without firing a single shot. In spite of overwhelming opposition from parents and pastors, the district’s trustees voted early Tuesday morning to implement a pornographic sex education policy that includes instruction on anal sex and how to place a condom on an erect penis.

The father of a fifth grader demanded to know who gave the school district the right to teach his child how to have anal and oral sex.” Texas School District Implements Pornographic Sex Education Policy

6. ” It appears the Chicago Teachers Union (CTU), which held a solidarity rally this Saturday afternoon, …. seemed more like a convention of far-left radicals than the image of clean-cut teachers the CTU would like to project. Thousands of red-shirted Chicago Teachers Union members flooded into Chicago’s aptly named Union Square Park at noon today to demonstrate for solidarity and workers’ rights. Protesters embraced radical revolutionary imagery, wearing shirts with Che Guevara on them and holding signs emblazoned with the “iron fist.”

Occupy Chicago and anarchist groups as well as the Progressive Labor Party, International Socialists, SEIU, AFL-CIO, and others stood alongside teachers chanting for solidarity…” Radical left coalesces around Chicago Teacher protest


More



In the vid, teacher’s union with the Socialist iron fist banner…





I'm bettin' that you wouldn't put up with any of this.
 
What is surprising is that parents are willing to sacrifice the mental development of their children on the alter of political correctness.
That is a result of what Mr Hirsch railed about because they were taught the same things- they don't know any better because the sponges for brains were inundated with crap and not substance- image over substance has long been a character flaw in our culture. It's called materialism.
 
"There are now about 5,000 schools in the U.S. that use some form of the Core Knowledge curriculum, developed by Mr. Hirsch’s foundation. And research suggests Mr. Hirsch is right. A recent large-scale randomized study of public-school pupils in kindergarten through second grade found that use of the Core Knowledge Language Arts curriculum had statistically significant benefits for vocabulary, science knowledge, and social-studies knowledge.

Even in poor neighborhoods, kids at Core Knowledge schools perform well and are admitted to competitive high schools. From the South Bronx Classical Charter School to the public schools in Sullivan County, Tenn., Mr. Hirsch is clearly proud that his ideas have helped the least privileged kids in America."


Time and again we see that, for Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, ideology is far more important than results.

What is surprising is that parents are willing to sacrifice the mental development of their children on the alter of political correctness.
I call it social engineering where there is less content areas being taught and more liberal/progressive ideas are being presented in classroom lessons. Keep the politics out of the classroom and stick with the academics.
I also believe that only reading, language arts and math should be introduced in K-3; beginning the content areas, science, social studies, history and geography in grades 4 and up. By that time all or most students with be on grade level reading and prepared for the content areas.
 
"There are now about 5,000 schools in the U.S. that use some form of the Core Knowledge curriculum, developed by Mr. Hirsch’s foundation. And research suggests Mr. Hirsch is right. A recent large-scale randomized study of public-school pupils in kindergarten through second grade found that use of the Core Knowledge Language Arts curriculum had statistically significant benefits for vocabulary, science knowledge, and social-studies knowledge.

Even in poor neighborhoods, kids at Core Knowledge schools perform well and are admitted to competitive high schools. From the South Bronx Classical Charter School to the public schools in Sullivan County, Tenn., Mr. Hirsch is clearly proud that his ideas have helped the least privileged kids in America."


Time and again we see that, for Democrats/Liberals/Progressives, ideology is far more important than results.

What is surprising is that parents are willing to sacrifice the mental development of their children on the alter of political correctness.
I call it social engineering where there is less content areas being taught and more liberal/progressive ideas are being presented in classroom lessons. Keep the politics out of the classroom and stick with the academics.
I also believe that only reading, language arts and math should be introduced in K-3; beginning the content areas, science, social studies, history and geography in grades 4 and up. By that time all or most students with be on grade level reading and prepared for the content areas.


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My love for reading began with, believe it or not, 1984- I was in the 8th or 9th grade. I didn't go out of my way to find reading material but I always read the Sunday Fort Worth Star Telegram- and Hot Rod Magazine technical articles- in the Navy I read the Carpet Baggers by Harold Robbins which led me to liking historical referenced novels- The Gift of Rain by Tan Tvan Eng is a favorite- as are Westerns with historical perspective, like my all time favorite Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry and The Time It Never rained by Elmer Kelton. Laura Hillenbrands Unbroken was both uplifting and... eye opening.
I do admire, and envy, a good story teller-



I had to learn English before I could read those books.

Then....lots of catching up with my American peers.

The reading has never stopped......I'm generally reading three or four books at a time, the way some folks channel-surf.
 
....education died.

1.When I was reading posts this morn, I came upon the name of one of my heroes…“E. D. Hirsch wrote a great article for the WSJ last week on how the school systems ruined the country.” Critical Race Theory.

2. If you are interested in the education of our children, and the reason that it has ceased, the two men that need be studies are E.D. Hirsch, whose methods and views produced an amazing educational success, known as the Massachusetts Miracle, and another man, Marxist Paolo Friere who believes believed that indoctrination for communism and in opposition to capitalism, is the purpose of government schooling.

Sadly, it is the latter whose views are dominant in education.



3. I found two recent articles about Hirsch, truly an embarrassment of riches.

“Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?
E.D. Hirsch is absolutely correct when he states: “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction in which a teacher directly communicates information.”
Opinion | Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?

and

Bad Teaching Is Tearing America Apart
Education’s dumbing down frays the bonds of citizenship and is hardest on the poor, says E.D. Hirsch, the man who wrote the book on cultural literacy.”



4. For the necessary context, Friere, the darling of ed schools, doesn’t endorse teaching actual factual content. “The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” … Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.” Pedagogy of the Oppressor



5. Now for Hirsch’s view: Real education involves discipline, and accountability....both from students and teachers.
The student must have a base of knowledge. "Hirsch was also convinced that the problem of inadequate background knowledge began in the early grades. Elementary school teachers thus had to be more explicit about imparting such knowledge to students—indeed, this was even more important than teaching the “skills” of reading and writing, Hirsch believed. Hirsch’s insight contravened the conventional wisdom in the nation’s education schools: that teaching facts was unimportant, and that students instead should learn “how to” skills. …expanded the argument in a 1983 article, titled “Cultural Literacy,” in The American Scholar." E. D. Hirsch’s Curriculum for Democracy


Here's proof it works:
The “Massachusetts miracle,” in which Bay State students’ soaring test scores broke records, was the direct consequence of the state legislature’s passage of the 1993 Education Reform Act, which established knowledge-based standards for all grades and a rigorous testing system linked to the new standards. And those standards, Massachusetts reformers have acknowledged, are Hirsch’s legacy.

Unless our system can be wrested from Friere and returned to Hirsch, America is doomed.
Direct full classroom teaching is the right method of teaching especially in grades 1-3. Computers have a place in instruction but it's not for the early grades and should be used for academic review and testing the students on the curriculum they are being taught.

Students react much better to direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused; and turning the classroom over to students to "teach" a lesson that was presented the day before.


In full disclosure, we're a home school family, and chose K12.com, a computer curriculum.


I would agree with your " direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused" except for the fact that these are no longer the teachers that, I suspect, you and I had....educated, knowledgeable, learned non-political individuals.


1. "Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal A third-grade teacher at a public school in New Jersey is under fire after she encouraged her students to write letters to notorious convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who recently fell ill in prison.

Marylin Zuniga teaches language arts and social studies at Forest Street School in Orange, N.J."

Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal



2. - School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists


"School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists
The teacher also told Sommer that her son was not supposed to take the Nation of Islam handout home. It was supposed to stay in the classroom. That bit of news caused her great alarm.
“The fact that students were cautioned against allowing their parents to see anything is deeply troubling,” West told me. “The only reasonable explanation is they don’t want parents to know what it is their children are learning.”

3. Under pressure from transgender activists, progressive politicians, teacher unions, and the education establishment, and despite parents’ opposition, America’s public schools are capitulating to ideologues and implementing the radical transgender agenda with full force.
...regardless of biological sex, .... Activists want every child, from kindergarten on, to learn that “sex” is something “assigned at birth” rather than a biological reality. They want children to think that individuals get to choose their own “gender identity” (not limited to male or female), and that everyone else must affirm that “gender identity” as true.


...nothing that parents (or teachers) can do to prevent the schools from imposing policies designed to indoctrinate children with gender ideology.

In public education, the “deep state” describes a coalition of various groups – including teachers’ unions, progressive advocacy groups, major corporations, and philanthropists --that work together to promote the progressive worldview..."
America’s Public Education System: The Ultimate Deep State

4. “Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist
The Seattle Public Schools Ethnic Studies Advisory Committee (ESAC) released a rough draft of notes for its Math Ethnic Studies framework in late September, which attempts to connects math to a history of oppression.” Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist

5. “The sex and gender revolutionaries have officially taken over the Austin Independent School District without firing a single shot. In spite of overwhelming opposition from parents and pastors, the district’s trustees voted early Tuesday morning to implement a pornographic sex education policy that includes instruction on anal sex and how to place a condom on an erect penis.

The father of a fifth grader demanded to know who gave the school district the right to teach his child how to have anal and oral sex.” Texas School District Implements Pornographic Sex Education Policy

6. ” It appears the Chicago Teachers Union (CTU), which held a solidarity rally this Saturday afternoon, …. seemed more like a convention of far-left radicals than the image of clean-cut teachers the CTU would like to project. Thousands of red-shirted Chicago Teachers Union members flooded into Chicago’s aptly named Union Square Park at noon today to demonstrate for solidarity and workers’ rights. Protesters embraced radical revolutionary imagery, wearing shirts with Che Guevara on them and holding signs emblazoned with the “iron fist.”

Occupy Chicago and anarchist groups as well as the Progressive Labor Party, International Socialists, SEIU, AFL-CIO, and others stood alongside teachers chanting for solidarity…” Radical left coalesces around Chicago Teacher protest


More



In the vid, teacher’s union with the Socialist iron fist banner…





I'm bettin' that you wouldn't put up with any of this.

I am irate! Just when are normal people going to stand up to the Boards of Education and demand that schools return to academics only and stop poisoning the minds of our children! We have to do something at the college level where the students, future teachers are not taught this insane ideologue to be imparted on their students. Have we gone too far?
 
....education died.

1.When I was reading posts this morn, I came upon the name of one of my heroes…“E. D. Hirsch wrote a great article for the WSJ last week on how the school systems ruined the country.” Critical Race Theory.

2. If you are interested in the education of our children, and the reason that it has ceased, the two men that need be studies are E.D. Hirsch, whose methods and views produced an amazing educational success, known as the Massachusetts Miracle, and another man, Marxist Paolo Friere who believes believed that indoctrination for communism and in opposition to capitalism, is the purpose of government schooling.

Sadly, it is the latter whose views are dominant in education.



3. I found two recent articles about Hirsch, truly an embarrassment of riches.

“Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?
E.D. Hirsch is absolutely correct when he states: “If you want equity in education, as well as excellence, you have to have whole-class instruction in which a teacher directly communicates information.”
Opinion | Is American Teaching Doing What It Ought?

and

Bad Teaching Is Tearing America Apart
Education’s dumbing down frays the bonds of citizenship and is hardest on the poor, says E.D. Hirsch, the man who wrote the book on cultural literacy.”



4. For the necessary context, Friere, the darling of ed schools, doesn’t endorse teaching actual factual content. “The pedagogical point of Freire’s thesis : its opposition to taxing students with any actual academic content, which Freire derides as “official knowledge” that serves to rationalize inequality within capitalist society. One of Freire’s most widely quoted metaphors dismisses teacher-directed instruction as a misguided “banking concept,” … Freire proposes instead that teachers partner with their coequals, the students, in a “dialogic” and “problem-solving” process until the roles of teacher and student merge into “teacher-students” and “student-teachers.” Pedagogy of the Oppressor



5. Now for Hirsch’s view: Real education involves discipline, and accountability....both from students and teachers.
The student must have a base of knowledge. "Hirsch was also convinced that the problem of inadequate background knowledge began in the early grades. Elementary school teachers thus had to be more explicit about imparting such knowledge to students—indeed, this was even more important than teaching the “skills” of reading and writing, Hirsch believed. Hirsch’s insight contravened the conventional wisdom in the nation’s education schools: that teaching facts was unimportant, and that students instead should learn “how to” skills. …expanded the argument in a 1983 article, titled “Cultural Literacy,” in The American Scholar." E. D. Hirsch’s Curriculum for Democracy


Here's proof it works:
The “Massachusetts miracle,” in which Bay State students’ soaring test scores broke records, was the direct consequence of the state legislature’s passage of the 1993 Education Reform Act, which established knowledge-based standards for all grades and a rigorous testing system linked to the new standards. And those standards, Massachusetts reformers have acknowledged, are Hirsch’s legacy.

Unless our system can be wrested from Friere and returned to Hirsch, America is doomed.
Direct full classroom teaching is the right method of teaching especially in grades 1-3. Computers have a place in instruction but it's not for the early grades and should be used for academic review and testing the students on the curriculum they are being taught.

Students react much better to direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused; and turning the classroom over to students to "teach" a lesson that was presented the day before.


In full disclosure, we're a home school family, and chose K12.com, a computer curriculum.


I would agree with your " direct teacher instruction where the teacher is there to keep the students focused" except for the fact that these are no longer the teachers that, I suspect, you and I had....educated, knowledgeable, learned non-political individuals.


1. "Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal A third-grade teacher at a public school in New Jersey is under fire after she encouraged her students to write letters to notorious convicted cop killer Mumia Abu-Jamal, who recently fell ill in prison.

Marylin Zuniga teaches language arts and social studies at Forest Street School in Orange, N.J."

Third-Grade Teacher Has Students Write ‘Get Well’ Cards To Cop Killer Mumia Abu-Jamal



2. - School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists


"School's Nation of Islam Handout Paints Founding Fathers as Racists
The teacher also told Sommer that her son was not supposed to take the Nation of Islam handout home. It was supposed to stay in the classroom. That bit of news caused her great alarm.
“The fact that students were cautioned against allowing their parents to see anything is deeply troubling,” West told me. “The only reasonable explanation is they don’t want parents to know what it is their children are learning.”

3. Under pressure from transgender activists, progressive politicians, teacher unions, and the education establishment, and despite parents’ opposition, America’s public schools are capitulating to ideologues and implementing the radical transgender agenda with full force.
...regardless of biological sex, .... Activists want every child, from kindergarten on, to learn that “sex” is something “assigned at birth” rather than a biological reality. They want children to think that individuals get to choose their own “gender identity” (not limited to male or female), and that everyone else must affirm that “gender identity” as true.


...nothing that parents (or teachers) can do to prevent the schools from imposing policies designed to indoctrinate children with gender ideology.

In public education, the “deep state” describes a coalition of various groups – including teachers’ unions, progressive advocacy groups, major corporations, and philanthropists --that work together to promote the progressive worldview..."
America’s Public Education System: The Ultimate Deep State

4. “Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist
The Seattle Public Schools Ethnic Studies Advisory Committee (ESAC) released a rough draft of notes for its Math Ethnic Studies framework in late September, which attempts to connects math to a history of oppression.” Seattle Public Schools Say Math Is Racist

5. “The sex and gender revolutionaries have officially taken over the Austin Independent School District without firing a single shot. In spite of overwhelming opposition from parents and pastors, the district’s trustees voted early Tuesday morning to implement a pornographic sex education policy that includes instruction on anal sex and how to place a condom on an erect penis.

The father of a fifth grader demanded to know who gave the school district the right to teach his child how to have anal and oral sex.” Texas School District Implements Pornographic Sex Education Policy

6. ” It appears the Chicago Teachers Union (CTU), which held a solidarity rally this Saturday afternoon, …. seemed more like a convention of far-left radicals than the image of clean-cut teachers the CTU would like to project. Thousands of red-shirted Chicago Teachers Union members flooded into Chicago’s aptly named Union Square Park at noon today to demonstrate for solidarity and workers’ rights. Protesters embraced radical revolutionary imagery, wearing shirts with Che Guevara on them and holding signs emblazoned with the “iron fist.”

Occupy Chicago and anarchist groups as well as the Progressive Labor Party, International Socialists, SEIU, AFL-CIO, and others stood alongside teachers chanting for solidarity…” Radical left coalesces around Chicago Teacher protest


More



In the vid, teacher’s union with the Socialist iron fist banner…





I'm bettin' that you wouldn't put up with any of this.

I am irate! Just when are normal people going to stand up to the Boards of Education and demand that schools return to academics only and stop poisoning the minds of our children! We have to do something at the college level where the students, future teachers are not taught this insane ideologue to be imparted on their students. Have we gone too far?



"We have to do something at the college level where the students, future teachers are not taught this insane ideologue to be imparted on their students."

I wish I could see a way back.


Sol Stern

Pedagogy of the Oppressor


Another reason why U.S. ed schools are so awful: the ongoing influence of Brazilian Marxist Paulo Freire

Pedagogy of the Oppressor
  1. At a recent meeting of the New York Teaching Fellows program (“Teach for America”: provides an alternate route to state certification for about 1,700 new teachers annually) , Sol Stern found the one book that the fellows had to read in full was Pedagogy of the Oppressed, by the Brazilian educator Paulo Freire.
This book has achieved near-iconic status in America’s teacher-training programs. In 2003, David Steiner and Susan Rozen published a study examining the curricula of 16 schools of education—14 of them among the top-ranked institutions in the country, according to U.S. News and World Report—and found that Pedagogy of the Oppressed was one of the most frequently assigned texts in their philosophy of education courses.
 
There's a lot to absorb in Pedagogy of the Oppressor



What actually happened was that Peterson used the Freirian rationale to become his students’ “self-appointed political conscience.” After one unit on U.S. intervention in Latin America, Peterson decided to take the children to a rally protesting U.S. aid to the Contras opposing the Marxist Sandinistas in Nicaragua. The children stayed after school to make placards:


let them run their land!

help central america don’t kill them

give the nicaraguans their freedom

I don't see a problem with the above- so, do we reject pedagogy or are we forced to accept demagoguery?

pedagogy: the method and practice of teaching, especially as an academic subject or theoretical concept.

demagoguery: political activity or practices that seek support by appealing to the desires and prejudices of ordinary people rather than by using rational argument.

I submit demagoguery and false information, passed off as rational argument, is worse. White washing ones actions is lying by omission. One can rationalize anything. To rationalize is trying to justify. Trying to justify is trying to excuse. Sound explanations need no justification as they speak for themselves. Excuses are just that.
Cherry picking events, circumstances and words is white washing- demagoguing= trying to rationalize/justify/excuse.

I agree, I don't see a way back. Not immediately. This type demagoguery didn't begin last night and it won't end in our life time- when havoc is created, chaos ensues and catastrophe is inevitable. The catastrophe can be minimized with Truth- Truth is constant, knowledge evolves, and isn't biased in its origin and can manifest itself in ways unimaginable. Sowing seeds of Truth can be as successful as sowing seeds of knowledge- the seeds of Truth will give a solid foundation to build knowledge on- without the Truth as the foundation the walls of knowledge will crumble- it is inevitable.
 
Male dentists have the highest suicide rate of any profession. Is this proof that dentists are part of some shadowy death cult? Is there a conspiracy among dentists to worship death, Thanos-style?

Many patients are abused while hospitalized. Is the AMA a deep-state movement to cull the herd of weak patients?

More than a few postal workers have gone on shooting sprees over the past 50 years. Does this prove that postal workers are all homicidal maniacs with an agenda to kill as many people as possible?

How many people who reject the notion that the relatively few police officers who shoot black suspects are trigger-happy racists turn right around and draw the broadest possible generalizations about educators (though they have 0% first-hand knowledge) based solely on the also relatively few stories about crazy shit in this or that school that a certain segment of the media loves to promulgate?

There is no agenda, movement, or conspiracy among teachers to "indoctrinate" students to any particular political orientation. As with many professions, there are a lot of liberal teachers, but they do not represent ALL teachers and are not indicative of any dramatic, wide-spread effort at "brain-washing" the youth of America.

So, SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BULLSHIT.
 
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I do agree all bias should be removed from education, including america is awful and america is great. That's up to the child and parents to decide. If I witnessed one or the other I would be complaining.
 
I do agree all bias should be removed from education, including america is awful and america is great. That's up to the child and parents to decide. If I witnessed one or the other I would be complaining.

It is unethical for a teacher to impose his or her personal views on students.
 
It is unethical for a teacher to impose his or her personal views on students.
So, SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BULLSHIT.


Maybe you don't read well. Isn't it a bit ironic?
While I have no "anecdotal" experience I can read, not to mention the man on the street type videos of people who don't even know what day of the week it is, and that a stupid mask will save them or that gov't is benevolent and wants to save you- never mind anything useful- and see just how fucking dumb people are- that, my man, is indoctrination playing out- sadly, as you illustrate, educating is merely a passing on of knowledge-
 
It is unethical for a teacher to impose his or her personal views on students.
So, SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BULLSHIT.


Maybe you don't read well. Isn't it a bit ironic?
While I have no "anecdotal" experience I can read, not to mention the man on the street type videos of people who don't even know what day of the week it is, and that a stupid mask will save them or that gov't is benevolent and wants to save you- never mind anything useful- and see just how fucking dumb people are- that, my man, is indoctrination playing out- sadly, as you illustrate, educating is merely a passing on of knowledge-

Trying to pass off your subjective views as proof of anything is utterly disingenuous. Comparing real, in-depth, comprehensive, decades long experience with watching some clips on YouTube is irrational and absurd.
 
Most School Boards in the US are run by Conservatives
Oh shut up you stupid fuck! BOTH subscribe to the UNconstitutional- it ain't a left right thing- geezus h christ on a crutch- how can you be so fucking ignorant as a functioning adult?! Who ties your goddamn shoes-

He has a point. When the mythical Moral Majority tried to take over school boards in the 80's, their effort to proselytize, i.e. brainwash elementary school students and rewrite history led to their demise. Parents were irate when these kooks tried to takeover the parenting of their kids and the history of our nation.
 
It is unethical for a teacher to impose his or her personal views on students.
So, SHUT THE FUCK UP WITH THAT BULLSHIT.


Maybe you don't read well. Isn't it a bit ironic?
While I have no "anecdotal" experience I can read, not to mention the man on the street type videos of people who don't even know what day of the week it is, and that a stupid mask will save them or that gov't is benevolent and wants to save you- never mind anything useful- and see just how fucking dumb people are- that, my man, is indoctrination playing out- sadly, as you illustrate, educating is merely a passing on of knowledge-

Given the syntax in your run on sentence above, I have no confidence that you have any experience to critique education in America or anywhere else.

After reading your post again, it remains a run on sentence, but one which is also word salad.
 

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