Election of 1912 vs. 2012

[Redfish]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

 

[hazlnut]

Sounds pretty socialist to me.

Well, you're an idiot. So we don't give a fuck what you think.

 

[hazlnut]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

You overuse your Freedom to FAIL.

 

[Redfish]

for hopstick and G

your messiah obozo the great is really a marxist collectivist.

please define those terms and explain why you think obozo does not fit that definition. Before doing so, please read his books, the books of his mentors, and his early speeches.

 

[Redfish]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

You overuse your Freedom to FAIL.

no one could beat you on that. you are number one at FAIL

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

How is enriching the wealthiest Americans....True Freedom?

 

[Redfish]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

How is enriching the wealthiest Americans....True Freedom?

you mean like the Clintons?

 

[rightwinger]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

How is enriching the wealthiest Americans....True Freedom?

you mean like the Clintons?

What about them?

 

[Pogo]

So is Social Security socialism?

There ya go.
Is the post office socialism?
Public libraries? Public parks? The Smithsonian?
Highways? Telephone pole right-of-ways?
The FCC? The FAA? The FDA?
The NIH and CDC?
Laws and regulations and operations of municipal water systems? Waste disposal systems?

Are these things somewhere prohibited in the First and Second Amendments?

Where in the Constitution is socialism prohibited?

first and second amendments.

Reeeaaaly....

You don't have a clue in the world what "socialism" means, do ya?
Hint: got nothing to do with guns; Hint 2: got nothing to do with free expression; hint 3: got nothing to do with religion.

Your ignorance is on display once again. Cuba and north korea are socialist countries, do their people have guns? do they have free speech? do they have freedom of religion? NO

Does Cuba have ski slopes? Does North Korea have coconuts?
Well see, that proves socialism prohibits ski slopes and coconuts.

What a fucking idiotic post.

 

[IsaacNewton]

for hopstick and G

your messiah obozo the great is really a marxist collectivist.

please define those terms and explain why you think obozo does not fit that definition. Before doing so, please read his books, the books of his mentors, and his early speeches.

The president's net worth is 12 million dollars and is president of the United States, twice elected. Earned the hard way in a capitalist system. A socialist? LOL

I think this is what gauls many cons, this guy worked his ass off and accomplished what all of them combined never will, and he's wealthy.

Relax, this is America where if you work hard you can succeed, just like the President. All you people have to do is work harder and smarter and stop spending your time online.

Its called work.

 

[Redfish]

Conservative dogma

Doing things to help big business is........... PATRIOTISM
Doing things to help the American people is....SOCIALISM

Totally wrong.

Doing things to enslave the american people is............socialism
Doing things to punish successful businesses is..............socialism
Doing things to allow americans true freedom is............patriotism

and remember, asshole, true freedom includes both the freedom to succeed and the freedom to fail.

How is enriching the wealthiest Americans....True Freedom?

you mean like the Clintons?

What about them?

they are in the evil top 1%, you said "....enriching the wealthiest americans". Just pointing out your hypocrisy, you rant about the evil rich but support the corrupt very rich hildebeast.

 

[Redfish]

for hopstick and G

your messiah obozo the great is really a marxist collectivist.

please define those terms and explain why you think obozo does not fit that definition. Before doing so, please read his books, the books of his mentors, and his early speeches.

The president's net worth is 12 million dollars and is president of the United States, twice elected. Earned the hard way in a capitalist system. A socialist? LOL

I think this is what gauls many cons, this guy worked his ass off and accomplished what all of them combined never will, and he's wealthy.

Relax, this is America where if you work hard you can succeed, just like the President. All you people have to do is work harder and smarter and stop spending your time online.

Its called work.

What "work" has obozo ever done? Rabble rousing in Chitown? Taking bribes? Being a do-nothing senator? being the worst president in history? you call that work? They guy hasn't done an honest day's work in his miserable life.

and remember, the Clintons were "broke" when they left the whitehouse. and you probably believe that too.

 

[Redfish]

So is Social Security socialism?

There ya go.
Is the post office socialism?
Public libraries? Public parks? The Smithsonian?
Highways? Telephone pole right-of-ways?
The FCC? The FAA? The FDA?
The NIH and CDC?
Laws and regulations and operations of municipal water systems? Waste disposal systems?

Are these things somewhere prohibited in the First and Second Amendments?

Where in the Constitution is socialism prohibited?

first and second amendments.

Reeeaaaly....

You don't have a clue in the world what "socialism" means, do ya?
Hint: got nothing to do with guns; Hint 2: got nothing to do with free expression; hint 3: got nothing to do with religion.

Your ignorance is on display once again. Cuba and north korea are socialist countries, do their people have guns? do they have free speech? do they have freedom of religion? NO

Does Cuba have ski slopes? Does North Korea have coconuts?
Well see, that proves socialism prohibits ski slopes and coconuts.

What a fucking idiotic post.

speaking of idiotic posts^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that one wins the prize.

Earlier you said that socialism has nothing to do with guns, free expression, or religion. With two examples I proved you full of shit.

 

[Unkotare]

The OP is misleading.

 

[IsaacNewton]

for hopstick and G

your messiah obozo the great is really a marxist collectivist.

please define those terms and explain why you think obozo does not fit that definition. Before doing so, please read his books, the books of his mentors, and his early speeches.

The president's net worth is 12 million dollars and is president of the United States, twice elected. Earned the hard way in a capitalist system. A socialist? LOL

I think this is what gauls many cons, this guy worked his ass off and accomplished what all of them combined never will, and he's wealthy.

Relax, this is America where if you work hard you can succeed, just like the President. All you people have to do is work harder and smarter and stop spending your time online.

Its called work.

What "work" has obozo ever done? Rabble rousing in Chitown? Taking bribes? Being a do-nothing senator? being the worst president in history? you call that work? They guy hasn't done an honest day's work in his miserable life.

and remember, the Clintons were "broke" when they left the whitehouse. and you probably believe that too.

Easy, just show where someone handed them money. People are only paid for a value they provide to others.

You can't provide that value so you aren't wealthy. They worked hard and provided value and capitalism rewarded them.

 

[Pogo]

So is Social Security socialism?

There ya go.
Is the post office socialism?
Public libraries? Public parks? The Smithsonian?
Highways? Telephone pole right-of-ways?
The FCC? The FAA? The FDA?
The NIH and CDC?
Laws and regulations and operations of municipal water systems? Waste disposal systems?

Are these things somewhere prohibited in the First and Second Amendments?

Where in the Constitution is socialism prohibited?

first and second amendments.

Reeeaaaly....

You don't have a clue in the world what "socialism" means, do ya?
Hint: got nothing to do with guns; Hint 2: got nothing to do with free expression; hint 3: got nothing to do with religion.

Your ignorance is on display once again. Cuba and north korea are socialist countries, do their people have guns? do they have free speech? do they have freedom of religion? NO

Does Cuba have ski slopes? Does North Korea have coconuts?
Well see, that proves socialism prohibits ski slopes and coconuts.

What a fucking idiotic post.

speaking of idiotic posts^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that one wins the prize.

Earlier you said that socialism has nothing to do with guns, free expression, or religion. With two examples I proved you full of shit.

What the ell are you smoking? You didn't even address it.

Though it sailed completely over your head, the comparison of ski slopes and coconuts etc is a(nother) demonstration of an Association Fallacy. Which is exactly what you did with the "free speech and guns" canard.

See how silly it sounds?

Ah... you prolly don't.

 

[Redfish]

for hopstick and G

your messiah obozo the great is really a marxist collectivist.

please define those terms and explain why you think obozo does not fit that definition. Before doing so, please read his books, the books of his mentors, and his early speeches.

The president's net worth is 12 million dollars and is president of the United States, twice elected. Earned the hard way in a capitalist system. A socialist? LOL

I think this is what gauls many cons, this guy worked his ass off and accomplished what all of them combined never will, and he's wealthy.

Relax, this is America where if you work hard you can succeed, just like the President. All you people have to do is work harder and smarter and stop spending your time online.

Its called work.

What "work" has obozo ever done? Rabble rousing in Chitown? Taking bribes? Being a do-nothing senator? being the worst president in history? you call that work? They guy hasn't done an honest day's work in his miserable life.

and remember, the Clintons were "broke" when they left the whitehouse. and you probably believe that too.

Easy, just show where someone handed them money. People are only paid for a value they provide to others.

You can't provide that value so you aren't wealthy. They worked hard and provided value and capitalism rewarded them.

do you think that getting paid 100K for a 20 minute speech is "earning" money? What value did she provide to the boys and girls club for the 100K that they paid her to speak?

don't be a loon, its legal bribery, plain and simple.

 

[Redfish]

So is Social Security socialism?

There ya go.
Is the post office socialism?
Public libraries? Public parks? The Smithsonian?
Highways? Telephone pole right-of-ways?
The FCC? The FAA? The FDA?
The NIH and CDC?
Laws and regulations and operations of municipal water systems? Waste disposal systems?

Are these things somewhere prohibited in the First and Second Amendments?

first and second amendments.

Reeeaaaly....

You don't have a clue in the world what "socialism" means, do ya?
Hint: got nothing to do with guns; Hint 2: got nothing to do with free expression; hint 3: got nothing to do with religion.

Your ignorance is on display once again. Cuba and north korea are socialist countries, do their people have guns? do they have free speech? do they have freedom of religion? NO

Does Cuba have ski slopes? Does North Korea have coconuts?
Well see, that proves socialism prohibits ski slopes and coconuts.

What a fucking idiotic post.

speaking of idiotic posts^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that one wins the prize.

Earlier you said that socialism has nothing to do with guns, free expression, or religion. With two examples I proved you full of shit.

What the ell are you smoking? You didn't even address it.

Though it sailed completely over your head, the comparison of ski slopes and coconuts etc is a(nother) demonstration of an Association Fallacy. Which is exactly what you did with the "free speech and guns" canard.

See how silly it sounds?

Ah... you prolly don't.

you said "You don't have a clue in the world what "socialism" means, do ya?
Hint: got nothing to do with guns; Hint 2: got nothing to do with free expression; hint 3: got nothing to do with religion."

Socialism has nothing to do with free expression, guns, religion??? are you fricken crazy? Socialism will not work if free expression, guns, and religion are not banned.

 

[regent]

Where are we now? I mean we have a number of socialist programs, at least they were called socialist when made into law, so do we still have free speech, guns and religion, or are they now gone? This really gets confusing.

 

[auditor0007]

In 1912 the socialist party captured 6% of the popular vote, by comparison...

100 years later they captured 51% of the vote. How do we account for the United States becoming so radicalized in a scant 100 years?

Because you are an idiot comparing apples to oranges.