Emails Reveal President Obama Shut Down WW2 Memorial Knowing Vets Were Coming!

[rightwinger]

obama wanted to use the same tactic he used for the sequester. Maximize the pain.

How much pain comes from shutting down a park?

 

[ScienceRocks]

when did the TP or members of congress get the power to shut down memorials?

Everyone says they want fiscal responsibility and when people makes a stand they are pillaged and Obama shuts down a war memorial which couldn't have cost much to run.

When you shut something down, you shut something down. Some places to shut them down cost money.

Of course you people also closed down research into cancer cures. Your slash, cut and fuck policies are simply baseless. I believe we need to cut but not the way you plan tooo.

Republicans wanted their shutdown to look like no big deal. Who needs Government anyway?

Nobody sees people working in a cancer lab. So who cares if they get sent home

But a PARK? Good god. People NEED Parks

Republicans can't tollerate shutting down something people actually see

Oh'I thought republicans don't like national parks as they can't drill them. These people simply don't care about much of anything normal folks would. Sadly that's the cold truth. It is like they imagine themselves living in the wild west and wish that was so again!

 

[paulitician]

Had to make more room for his Illegals' Protest party. Obama's a bum.

 

[JakeStarkey]

note to left-wing nutjobs; Obama still found money to go golf with. that isn't essential either

Golf is Not government funded

republicans wanted monuments kept open, they shouldn't have shut down the government. The shutdown was nonessential and wasted $26 billion

ROTFLMFAO.....
Chipping out from the Capitol Hill bunker, President Barack Obama often enjoys getting away from the bustle of Washington politics to enjoy a round a golf–more precisely 146 rounds since he entered office.

His favorite courses are on military bases at Andrews Air Force Base and Fort Belvoir. So when the government shutdown hit Washington–closing grocery stores on military bases including Andrews and Fort Belvoir, barricading national memorials, and threatening football games for the service academies–one could assume that the president’s pastime of choice taking place on federal property is on ice until he and the rest of the folks on the Hill get business squared away.

But you’d be wrong. All “non-essential” personnel have been sent home on the bases while the government’s shut down–and the Chief Executive Golfer’s greens of choice remain open for play.

In fact, since Obama’s much-maligned sequester hit Washington, the president has teed off for 30 rounds of golf. That’s 540 holes, or 120 hours of golf, not including nineteenth hole time.

Left wing nuthuggers ALWAYS lie and get shit wrong!

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Oct 4, 2013 - His favorite courses are on military bases at Andrews Air Force Base and Fort Belvoir. So when the government shutdown hit Washington–closing grocery stores on military bases including Andrews and Fort Belvoir, barricading national memorials, and threatening football games for the service ...


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His favorite courses are on military bases at Andrews Air Force Base and Fort Belvoir. So when the government shutdown hit Washington–closing grocery stores on military bases including Andrews and Fort Belvoir, barricading national memorials, and threatening football games for the service ...

 

[JakeStarkey]

"NO, we just don't BUY you left wingers MADE UP FACTS
Obama shut the government down because Republicans wanted to delay PARTS of Obamascamcare ...he vowed he wouldn't take any compromise on it ....so what does you Dear wonderful Leader do? he went out of his way to HURT our vets and the people in this country by closing down MEMORIALS AND PARKS....but you all figure if you push your lies enough some people will buy them...you two are loyal Obama/government subjects, how friiken sad"

very sad that a minority of a minority shut down the government

the minority in Congress does not dictate to the majority

 

[paulitician]

Vets will never forgive him for this. His followers can spin it any way they like, but the Vets will not forgive & forget on this one. The Dear Leader chose his Illegals' Protest Party over our Vets. Pretty pathetic move.

 

[Stephanie]

oh rightwinger is a hyperventilating because everyone isn't buying their lies anymore

Obama SHUT down our government and went out of HIS WAY to hurt not only our vets but you the people by shutting down your, parks and memorial first thing

now vote these progressive pukes out of office from running over us and our lives

 

[Stephanie]

Vets will never forgive him for this. His followers can spin it any way they like, but the Vets will not forgive & forget on this one. The Dear Leader chose his Illegals' Protest Party over our Vets. Pretty pathetic move.

He could care less anyway...he couldn't take the time to learn to pronounce a name of the military he was in charge of...He's just an Un-American pos as is most to the hijacked Democrat party of old and it should be called the, Socialist/commie party of the United States

 

[paulitician]

oh rightwinger is a hyperventilating because everyone isn't buying their lies anymore

Obama SHUT down our government and went out of HIS WAY to hurt not only our vets but you the people by shutting down your, parks and memorial first thing

now vote these progressive pukes out of office from running over us and our lives

The Communist wingnut time is just about up. Now they're just desperately clinging to their 'Hope & Change' fantasies. Their Dear Leader is a criminal. For his awful IRS abuses alone, he should be Impeached. Period, end of story.

 

[nodoginnafight]

MHO - I believe that there is enough waste in government right now that - if eliminated - we COULD operate fully at sequestration levels. But bureaucrats are not going to let that happen. They will not cut the waste, they will cut service instead and hold onto the waste. They WANT us to feel the pain so we will come crawling back to them on our hands and knees begging them to take more of our money.

It is how a bureaucrat protects his/her turf. We need people in those positions who want to serve the people - not who just want to protect their turf.

In this instance, I believe Obama put himself squarely in the corner of the turf-protectors.

 

[ScienceRocks]

MHO - I believe that there is enough waste in government right now that - if eliminated - we COULD operate fully at sequestration levels. But bureaucrats are not going to let that happen. They will not cut the waste, they will cut service instead and hold onto the waste. They WANT us to feel the pain so we will come crawling back to them on our hands and knees begging them to take more of our money.

It is how a bureaucrat protects his/her turf. We need people in those positions who want to serve the people - not who just want to protect their turf.

In this instance, I believe Obama put himself squarely in the corner of the turf-protectors.

This is why I promote smart government instead of small government There's a lot of waste and fraud within the safety net to be CUT. We don't have to kill science, infrastructure and things that make sense.

 

[Vigilante]

No, they have not lost their insurance

They lost their former policy and have been offered one with better coverage

Ummm... Yes, Obama does have the authority to delay those mandates. It is within the powers of the executive branch

Obama did not close down a memorial. He closed ALL Parks as nonessential government functions. Can you defend why a PARK should be an essential function?

Do you have a 2 digit IQ, or what?...Just a hypocrite!

Obama opens National Mall to illegal Aliens!!!

Although WW2 and Viet Nam vets are not allowed to visit their memorials in the National Mall, illegal aliens will get free rein of the place, with the administration calling it a first Amendment right. The only problem with that as non citizens, they do not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens can sometimes get rights in say a criminal prosecution but not in deportment proceedings, although they do get representation before a judge.

This is a slap in the face to every veteran or any US citizen for that matter, who have been locked out of the nation's treasures for which they are part owners. The illegals will build a stage have amplified equipment, access to TV cameras. This president is playing politics and it's only a matter of time before even his most ardent supporters see through his thinly veiled hatred of everything American.

Do you even know what the Mall is?

It is the open space between the monuments. Shutting down the entire Mall is not practical. Protecting the monuments is

Those "illegals"you made up did not have access to the monuments either. I don't know where you pulled that picture but no way is that the National Mall. Why are you making shit up?

Those vets also had full access to the mall

You are, to paraphrase, the "World's Dumbest Politician' Joe Biden, a F'Kn idiot!...Even your subversive loving NBC has proclaimed he shut down THE MALL and has pictures.... Moron, they call themselves progressives because they have no guts or brains, for that matter!

"Government Shutdown Closes National Mall, Monuments"

"We have 3,000 permitted events on the Mall every year. While the government is shut down, all of those events have to be canceled, including [the Honor Flight]," Johnson said. "We have a wonderful time with the vets that come and visit. A superintendent comes out and greets them ... but that can't be tomorrow."

Government Shutdown Closes National Mall, Monuments | NBC4 Washington

 

[rightwinger]

Do you have a 2 digit IQ, or what?...Just a hypocrite!

Obama opens National Mall to illegal Aliens!!!

Although WW2 and Viet Nam vets are not allowed to visit their memorials in the National Mall, illegal aliens will get free rein of the place, with the administration calling it a first Amendment right. The only problem with that as non citizens, they do not have the same rights as citizens. Non citizens can sometimes get rights in say a criminal prosecution but not in deportment proceedings, although they do get representation before a judge.

This is a slap in the face to every veteran or any US citizen for that matter, who have been locked out of the nation's treasures for which they are part owners. The illegals will build a stage have amplified equipment, access to TV cameras. This president is playing politics and it's only a matter of time before even his most ardent supporters see through his thinly veiled hatred of everything American.

Do you even know what the Mall is?

It is the open space between the monuments. Shutting down the entire Mall is not practical. Protecting the monuments is

Those "illegals"you made up did not have access to the monuments either. I don't know where you pulled that picture but no way is that the National Mall. Why are you making shit up?

Those vets also had full access to the mall

You are, to paraphrase, the "World's Dumbest Politician' Joe Biden, a F'Kn idiot!...Even your subversive loving NBC has proclaimed he shut down THE MALL and has pictures.... Moron, they call themselves progressives because they have no guts!

"Government Shutdown Closes National Mall, Monuments"

"We have 3,000 permitted events on the Mall every year. While the government is shut down, all of those events have to be canceled, including [the Honor Flight]," Johnson said. "We have a wonderful time with the vets that come and visit. A superintendent comes out and greets them ... but that can't be tomorrow."

Government Shutdown Closes National Mall, Monuments | NBC4 Washington

The National Mall was not shut down

It was open during the whole Republican shutdown. Even WWII vets had open access to the mall area

 

[paulitician]

The Dear Leader gots priorities. He couldn't pass up another Illegals' Protest Party. Seriously, this shouldn't be too surprising. I doubt he's an American himself.

 

[Oldstyle]

Another misleading thread by SG. Obama personally shutdown the monument in the face of visiting vets? No. You don't get to pass blame for this. The shutdown occured due to the actions of the far-right wing of the GOP who apparently control the House. You wanted the shutdown. Own it.

C'mon, JED...you know as well as I do that shutting down of the national monuments was a deliberate strategy of trying to make the government shutdown as painful as possible for the general public. It's what the Federal Government DOES whenever it's budget is threatened and Barry happily went along with it because he thought it would put pressure on the GOP. That strategy backfired on him because it was so obvious a ploy.

Monuments are part of the National Parks System. The entire parks system was shut down as a nonessential government function. In addition to that two acre monument that was shut down, the entire Grand Canyon was shut down

Parks are nonessential
People are essential

LOL That's total bullshit, Winger! It cost more money to bring in barricades to keep people out of an open air memorial than it would have cost to simply keep it open. Or do you think those just magically appeared out of thin air? What cost savings could POSSIBLY been realized by having to erect barricades and have people there to tell visitors that the area was closed? It's a LAWN for Christ's sake! It's not like you need tons of staff to make a lawn work!!! This was nothing more than "theatre" on the Obama Administration's part.

 

[rightwinger]

C'mon, JED...you know as well as I do that shutting down of the national monuments was a deliberate strategy of trying to make the government shutdown as painful as possible for the general public. It's what the Federal Government DOES whenever it's budget is threatened and Barry happily went along with it because he thought it would put pressure on the GOP. That strategy backfired on him because it was so obvious a ploy.

Monuments are part of the National Parks System. The entire parks system was shut down as a nonessential government function. In addition to that two acre monument that was shut down, the entire Grand Canyon was shut down

Parks are nonessential
People are essential

LOL That's total bullshit, Winger! It cost more money to bring in barricades to keep people out of an open air memorial than it would have cost to simply keep it open. Or do you think those just magically appeared out of thin air? What cost savings could POSSIBLY been realized by having to erect barricades and have people there to tell visitors that the area was closed? It's a LAWN for Christ's sake! It's not like you need tons of staff to make a lawn work!!! This was nothing more than "theatre" on the Obama Administration's part.

The decision was made on whether Parks are essential or non-essential government services. It was rightfully decided that parks were non-essential

Now, with thousands of parks, monuments and historical sites you expect the Obama administration to be able to decide on two days notice which parks and functions could remain open with minimal impact?

The times I visited the WWII memorial there were always several guards on site. Someone has to chase the kids out of the fountains. Also, a few months prior to the Repulican shutdown, a crazy woman threw green paint on the Lincoln Memorial. We kind of like to protect our monuments from damage.

The decision during the Republican shutdown was Parks Open/Parks Closed. Maybe if Republicans give six months notice before their next shutdown we can do cost benefit analysis on all parks and historic sites to see which are cost effective to keep open

 

[ScienceRocks]

Monuments are part of the National Parks System. The entire parks system was shut down as a nonessential government function. In addition to that two acre monument that was shut down, the entire Grand Canyon was shut down

Parks are nonessential
People are essential

LOL That's total bullshit, Winger! It cost more money to bring in barricades to keep people out of an open air memorial than it would have cost to simply keep it open. Or do you think those just magically appeared out of thin air? What cost savings could POSSIBLY been realized by having to erect barricades and have people there to tell visitors that the area was closed? It's a LAWN for Christ's sake! It's not like you need tons of staff to make a lawn work!!! This was nothing more than "theatre" on the Obama Administration's part.

The decision was made on whether Parks are essential or non-essential government services. It was rightfully decided that parks were non-essential

Now, with thousands of parks, monuments and historical sites you expect the Obama administration to be able to decide on two days notice which parks and functions could remain open with minimal impact?

The times I visited the WWII memorial there were always several guards on site. Someone has to chase the kids out of the fountains. Also, a few months prior to the Repulican shutdown, a crazy woman threw green paint on the Lincoln Memorial. We kind of like to protect our monuments from damage.

The decision during the Republican shutdown was Parks Open/Parks Closed. Maybe if Republicans give six months notice before their next shutdown we can do cost benefit analysis on all parks and historic sites to see which are cost effective to keep open

Remember, these are the people that want to throw away tens of billions worth of research midway through because they hate government. Not very reasonable people.

 

[Oldstyle]

Monuments are part of the National Parks System. The entire parks system was shut down as a nonessential government function. In addition to that two acre monument that was shut down, the entire Grand Canyon was shut down

Parks are nonessential
People are essential

LOL That's total bullshit, Winger! It cost more money to bring in barricades to keep people out of an open air memorial than it would have cost to simply keep it open. Or do you think those just magically appeared out of thin air? What cost savings could POSSIBLY been realized by having to erect barricades and have people there to tell visitors that the area was closed? It's a LAWN for Christ's sake! It's not like you need tons of staff to make a lawn work!!! This was nothing more than "theatre" on the Obama Administration's part.

The decision was made on whether Parks are essential or non-essential government services. It was rightfully decided that parks were non-essential

Now, with thousands of parks, monuments and historical sites you expect the Obama administration to be able to decide on two days notice which parks and functions could remain open with minimal impact?

The times I visited the WWII memorial there were always several guards on site. Someone has to chase the kids out of the fountains. Also, a few months prior to the Repulican shutdown, a crazy woman threw green paint on the Lincoln Memorial. We kind of like to protect our monuments from damage.

The decision during the Republican shutdown was Parks Open/Parks Closed. Maybe if Republicans give six months notice before their next shutdown we can do cost benefit analysis on all parks and historic sites to see which are cost effective to keep open

So which do you think was more cost effective, Winger? Letting "several guards" remain on site...or trucking in barricades, paying someone to erect them and then having guards there to tell people the monument is closed? If this Administration can't figure THAT out then they've simply proven that they are as inept at cost cutting as they are at everything ELSE that they've tried to do!

And yes, I DO expect a management team that has their act together to be able to pass down the chain of command that due to budget cuts belts need to be tightened and let the people who run things like the WWII memorial make the call that it would be STUPID to shut down, bring in barricades and have to have as many guards there to tell people they couldn't visit the monument as are normally there to protect it.

 

[Oldstyle]

And as for your excuse that they only had two days to figure this all out? Did they not KNOW that a shut down was looming? Did they not know this for months before hand? That's about as lame a reason for what happened as I've ever heard.

 

[Sunshine]

breitbart?

The teap minority in Congress held the GOP hostage.

No other party is responsible.

Not true. It was OBAMA whose refusal to negotiate shut it all down. He just used a tactic that some on here use daily: Say your lie loud enough and long enough and people will believe it. OBAMA had the final say about it. Republicans offered to negotiate but Obama refused.

Mr. Obama called to “reiterate that he won’t negotiate on a government funding bill or debt limit increase,” Boehner spokesman Brendan Buck said.

Read more: Obama calls Boehner, still refuses to negotiate - Washington Times
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It was Obama who caused the shut down. AND he ordered that it be as painful to American citizens as possible.