Emily raised an excellent point on Roberts' rulings and the PPACA/Obamacare

[dblack]

The Congress passed a bill that contains a fine that functions as a tax. Other fines that are not taxes function as a tax. This is not an unprecedented thing.

Not unprecedented, but unscrupulous and bad government.

The consent of the people comes through our elected representatives. THAT is what representative government is. Good gawd, get the concept? Representative government

Do some reading:

Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Congress passed a bill that contains a fine that functions as a tax. Other fines that are not taxes function as a tax. This is not an unprecedented thing.

Not unprecedented, but unscrupulous and bad government.

The consent of the people comes through our elected representatives. THAT is what representative government is. Good gawd, get the concept? Representative government

Do some reading:

Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Not unprecedented: Not unscrupulous at all: your poor reasoned opinion is noted. Bad government -- What the Court?

dblack are you denying the USA has a form of representative government? The problem with this: Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia is that it is nutty. We have a constitutionally limited government because that is what a constitutional republic does -- limits government. That gibbersih somebody put up is an ideological rant.

Many Supreme Court Justices believe in stretching the bounds of interpretation where congressional oversight is asked (review laws passed by Congress)), in order to pragmatically uphold the will of the people through their elected representatives.

 

[dblack]

The Congress passed a bill that contains a fine that functions as a tax. Other fines that are not taxes function as a tax. This is not an unprecedented thing.

Not unprecedented, but unscrupulous and bad government.

The consent of the people comes through our elected representatives. THAT is what representative government is. Good gawd, get the concept? Representative government

Do some reading:

Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Not unprecedented: Not unscrupulous at all: your poor reasoned opinion is noted. Bad government -- What the Court?

No, bad government is using discriminatory taxation to manipulate behavior.

dblack are you denying the USA has a form of representative government? The problem with this: Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia is that it is nutty. We have a constitutionally limited government because that is what a constitutional republic does -- limits government. That gibbersih somebody put up is an ideological rant.

Many Supreme Court Justices believe in stretching the bounds of interpretation where congressional oversight is asked (review laws passed by Congress)), in order to pragmatically uphold the will of the people through their elected representatives.

In a democracy, the "will of the people" is what a constitution limits.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The Congress passed a bill that contains a fine that functions as a tax. Other fines that are not taxes function as a tax. This is not an unprecedented thing.

Not unprecedented, but unscrupulous and bad government.

The consent of the people comes through our elected representatives. THAT is what representative government is. Good gawd, get the concept? Representative government

Do some reading:

Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Not unprecedented: Not unscrupulous at all: your poor reasoned opinion is noted. Bad government -- What the Court?

No, bad government is using discriminatory taxation to manipulate behavior.

dblack are you denying the USA has a form of representative government? The problem with this: Constitutionally limited government - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia is that it is nutty. We have a constitutionally limited government because that is what a constitutional republic does -- limits government. That gibbersih somebody put up is an ideological rant.

Many Supreme Court Justices believe in stretching the bounds of interpretation where congressional oversight is asked (review laws passed by Congress)), in order to pragmatically uphold the will of the people through their elected representatives.

In a democracy, the "will of the people" is what a constitution limits.

"No, bad government is using discriminatory taxation to manipulate behavior." -

Yes, I'd agree in principle if all things were equal. But they are not. Nothing is so black and white. In a popular democracy or a direct democracy, it is precisely that will of the people, the majority, the mob that is not kept in check. In a representative democracy, which we have, the will of the people, the majority, the mob is kept in check.

A constitution is a mechanism used to limit governments, and can also be a used to keep the majority in check. Democracy itself does not limit the people