Empire In Retreat: Under Trump, we’re seeing the fall of the empire of America in real time

[rightwinger]

Did those tax cuts go to workers in the form of significant pay increases? No
Were they used to expand manufacturing? No
Did the contribute to public well being? No

As usual......They just keep it

You really don't get how money works, do you? You probably think the government just deposits it into your account, and that's it. Free stuff

One question......Where are the wage increases?

Increases have been withheld for a decade under the vague explanation ....the economy is bad

Well, unemployment is at 3.8 percent, business taxes have been cut 50 percent, stock market is at all time highs

Why aren’t wages surging with everything else?

/----/ Please get your Google fixed so we don't have to do your research for you. TIA
Earnings and Wages - Bureau of Labor Statistics
Subject Matter Index : The Economics Daily : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
... increase in average hourly earnings for the year ending February 2018 .... Wages and salaries for private industry workers increase 2.6 percent over the year ...

2.6 percent?

In a booming economy with low unemployment and after a fifty percent tax cut for business

Wow, a 50 percent tax cut, don't suppose you have a link on that?

Final Version Of GOP Tax Bill Cuts Corporate Tax Rate To 21 Percent

 

[healthmyths]

One question......Where are the wage increases?

Increases have been withheld for a decade under the vague explanation ....the economy is bad

Well, unemployment is at 3.8 percent, business taxes have been cut 50 percent, stock market is at all time highs

Why aren’t wages surging with everything else?

Why do others have to do everything for you?

The average salary in Budapest, Hungary is currently around 200,000 HUF (or €650 euros) after taxes.
Average and Minimum Salary in Budapest, Hungary - Check in Price

That is equal to $758.

Wow... so to increase by 4.9% means $37 more dollars.

HMMM....
One key measure is the real median level, meaning half of households have income above that level and half below, adjusted for inflation. According to the Census, this measure was $59,039 in 2016, a record high. This was the largest two year percentage increase on record.[1]
Household income in the United States - Wikipedia
So to have a 1.2% increase in the $59,039 means $885 increase which is MORE than what the Hungarian average salary is!

Not a fair comparison at ALL!

 

[basquebromance]

in large republics, the public good is sacrificed to a million views. in a small republic, the interest of the public is better understood.

take Sparta, it continued with the same territory after all its wars, the ambition of Athens to command and direct the union, lost them their liberties, and gave them a monarchy...

 

[healthmyths]

starting with Native Americans, anti-exceptionalism has spread to other groups in American society.

90 percent of millenials, for example, think America is not exceptional.

America's empire is based on American exceptionalism. the future...is bleak.

/----/ "90 percent of millenials, for example, think America is not exceptional."
That's because they were never taught what it means.
What, exactly, is 'American exceptionalism'?
American exceptionalism is not the same as saying the United States is "different" from other countries. It doesn't just mean that the U.S. is "unique." Countries, like people, are all different and unique, even if many share some underlying characteristics. Exceptionalism requires something far more: a belief that the U.S. follows a path of history different from the laws or norms that govern other countries. That's the essence of American exceptionalism: The U.S. is not just a bigger and more powerful country — but an exception. It is the bearer of freedom and liberty, and morally superior to something called "Europe." Never mind the differences within Europe, or the fact that "the world" is bigger than the U.S. and Europe. The "Europe" versus "America" dichotomy is the crucible in which American exceptionalist thinking formed.

And contrary to the idiots today that equate "immigrant" to open borders... OUR country depends on qualified, EXCEPTiONAL people that couldn't be exceptional in their own countries so that's what nearly 200 million people want to come to the USA... to be exceptional!

But unlike when were had less then 1/6th our current population when in 1800s the first immigration laws came into effect we truly depended on many immigrants...
NOW the exceptional nature of the USA is because we WANT those exceptional LEGAL immigrants! That's what makes the USA EXCEPTIONAL!

 

[Meathead]

You really don't get how money works, do you? You probably think the government just deposits it into your account, and that's it. Free stuff

One question......Where are the wage increases?

Increases have been withheld for a decade under the vague explanation ....the economy is bad

Well, unemployment is at 3.8 percent, business taxes have been cut 50 percent, stock market is at all time highs

Why aren’t wages surging with everything else?

/----/ Please get your Google fixed so we don't have to do your research for you. TIA
Earnings and Wages - Bureau of Labor Statistics
Subject Matter Index : The Economics Daily : U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
... increase in average hourly earnings for the year ending February 2018 .... Wages and salaries for private industry workers increase 2.6 percent over the year ...

2.6 percent?

In a booming economy with low unemployment and after a fifty percent tax cut for business

Wow, a 50 percent tax cut, don't suppose you have a link on that?

Final Version Of GOP Tax Bill Cuts Corporate Tax Rate To 21 Percent

You've only got one tail to wrap between your legs.

 

[danielpalos]

Did those tax cuts go to workers in the form of significant pay increases? No
Were they used to expand manufacturing? No
Did the contribute to public well being? No

As usual......They just keep it

You really don't get how money works, do you? You probably think the government just deposits it into your account, and that's it. Free stuff

What is not to get?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

 

[Cellblock2429]

Did those tax cuts go to workers in the form of significant pay increases? No
Were they used to expand manufacturing? No
Did the contribute to public well being? No

As usual......They just keep it

You really don't get how money works, do you? You probably think the government just deposits it into your account, and that's it. Free stuff

What is not to get?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

/----/ Time to cut spending. Tax hikes never go to paying down the debt.

 

[Cellblock2429]

starting with Native Americans, anti-exceptionalism has spread to other groups in American society.

90 percent of millenials, for example, think America is not exceptional.

America's empire is based on American exceptionalism. the future...is bleak.

/----/ "90 percent of millenials, for example, think America is not exceptional."
That's because they were never taught what it means.
What, exactly, is 'American exceptionalism'?
American exceptionalism is not the same as saying the United States is "different" from other countries. It doesn't just mean that the U.S. is "unique." Countries, like people, are all different and unique, even if many share some underlying characteristics. Exceptionalism requires something far more: a belief that the U.S. follows a path of history different from the laws or norms that govern other countries. That's the essence of American exceptionalism: The U.S. is not just a bigger and more powerful country — but an exception. It is the bearer of freedom and liberty, and morally superior to something called "Europe." Never mind the differences within Europe, or the fact that "the world" is bigger than the U.S. and Europe. The "Europe" versus "America" dichotomy is the crucible in which American exceptionalist thinking formed.

And contrary to the idiots today that equate "immigrant" to open borders... OUR country depends on qualified, EXCEPTiONAL people that couldn't be exceptional in their own countries so that's what nearly 200 million people want to come to the USA... to be exceptional!

But unlike when were had less then 1/6th our current population when in 1800s the first immigration laws came into effect we truly depended on many immigrants...
NOW the exceptional nature of the USA is because we WANT those exceptional LEGAL immigrants! That's what makes the USA EXCEPTIONAL!

/----/ What makes us exceptional is that our rights are bestowed by our Creator not the Government. Because what the Government gives, they can just as quickly take away.

 

[tigerred59]

...we the people are gonna take back this country and we refuse to go back to yesterdays America!!

Uh, We the People already did. Yesterday's America belonged to Obama & Co, after he fundamentally transformed it...'member? I don't want to go back to that either.

You must have lived outside of the country during Obama.

Dude, I don't know what planet these mindless pea brain fucks was on when Obama was president, but being elected twice, the guy must have done something right....yeah, he was sane!!

obongo got elected because he was Black...

If he were White we wouldn't know his name....

obongo and his supporters were all fools like yourself...…...

If he had been white he'd be hailed as the greatest president of all time.

History will eventually sort out this mess and Obama will emerge as perhaps the best president this nation has ever had, next to FDR

 

[tigerred59]

1. I love the line that Trump is the president of the rich. You should change that to president of those who WORK. It shouldn't be a mystery why tax cuts should benefit those who have a job. I've seen posts before where people say you should have to have a job to vote. I agree. It is a cancer for people without jobs voting to take working people's money.
2. I also love the loss of Global Standing argument. We are somehow isolationist because we refuse to be taken advantage of? That makes no sense at all..Don't screw us over, we'll be the best trade partner and ally you ever had.

The US is not being taken advantage of

We sign trade agreements. We get something, the other side gets something, both sides benefit

Been done that way for centuries

Trump is outraged that someone else also makes out

Dude, Trump could give a fuck about trade deals, Iran, the immigrants, etc....ITS ALL A DEFLECTION!!

 

[tigerred59]

You must have lived outside of the country during Obama.

Dude, I don't know what planet these mindless pea brain fucks was on when Obama was president, but being elected twice, the guy must have done something right....yeah, he was sane!!

obongo got elected because he was Black...

If he were White we wouldn't know his name....

obongo and his supporters were all fools like yourself...…...

The Great Obama was elected because the Bush Presidency was such a disaster

You are a fool.....

It was White Guilt....

Wrong. Obama was a better option than McCain.

To be honest with you, had McCain stayed true to his convictions and not hired that ignorant mop white head, Palin, I could see people voting for him. I'm glad Obama won, however, he played it safe so often and frustrated the hell out of all of us,

 

[tigerred59]

Wrong. Obama was a better option than McCain.

Ahhh...like Trump was a better option than Hillary.

Looking back, he was...but I would take her any day over this clown in chief, ass ho

 

[Thinker101]

Did those tax cuts go to workers in the form of significant pay increases? No
Were they used to expand manufacturing? No
Did the contribute to public well being? No

As usual......They just keep it

You really don't get how money works, do you? You probably think the government just deposits it into your account, and that's it. Free stuff

What is not to get?

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

No kidding, evidently you couldn't find that link during the Obama years.

 

[deanrd]

Poor lefties whine... "it doesn't feel like we've advanced" . The economy is booming but they lost an election and now the chicken shit pop-culture video game hypocrites hate everything about the U.S.. No surprises here.

You must have a very strange definition of booming...

First quarter growth was only 2.2%. Stocks are way below their high. Labor force participation is very low. Wages are stagnant. Deficits are skyrocketing....

Do you watch CNN?

No, don’t have cable. The above are facts.

Listen kid, I don't have cable either and I don't even live in the US, but I can still watch CNN, Now tell me you don't have a computer or internet connection.

That was almost as puny as the "facts" you get from CNN.

Nothing comes from cnn kid. Are you in some sort of stupid denial of facts?

Because all right wing alternative facts come from Breitbart and Fox.

 

[deanrd]

You can find information about Republicans everywhere. But the best information comes from Republicans.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Uh, We the People already did. Yesterday's America belonged to Obama & Co, after he fundamentally transformed it...'member? I don't want to go back to that either.

You must have lived outside of the country during Obama.

Dude, I don't know what planet these mindless pea brain fucks was on when Obama was president, but being elected twice, the guy must have done something right....yeah, he was sane!!

obongo got elected because he was Black...

If he were White we wouldn't know his name....

obongo and his supporters were all fools like yourself...…...

If he had been white he'd be hailed as the greatest president of all time.

History will eventually sort out this mess and Obama will emerge as perhaps the best president this nation has ever had, next to FDR

/——/ I’m sure all socialists will agree. Normal people, not so much.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Wrong. Obama was a better option than McCain.

Ahhh...like Trump was a better option than Hillary.

Looking back, he was...but I would take her any day over this clown in chief, ass ho

/——/ Hillary: Make America Miserable Again.

 

[Cellblock2429]

things are coming unhinged, socially and culturally

The rise of Trumpism, of tribalism, the celebration of stupidity.

Trump's this vulgar, grotesque dope, everything I hate in people,

I’m ashamed at what we must look like as a culture to the world

It doesn’t feel like we’ve advanced. I think you’re seeing the fall of the empire of America in real time, before your eyes; the internet has eroded the fabric of decency in our civilization,.

/——/ We’re not an empire you big dope.

 

[danielpalos]

You must have lived outside of the country during Obama.

Dude, I don't know what planet these mindless pea brain fucks was on when Obama was president, but being elected twice, the guy must have done something right....yeah, he was sane!!

obongo got elected because he was Black...

If he were White we wouldn't know his name....

obongo and his supporters were all fools like yourself...…...

If he had been white he'd be hailed as the greatest president of all time.

History will eventually sort out this mess and Obama will emerge as perhaps the best president this nation has ever had, next to FDR

/——/ I’m sure all socialists will agree. Normal people, not so much.

Learn how to read charts, yet?

Check out the DOW on a yearly chart.

 

[basquebromance]

the US has 1,000 military bases around the world.

we have AN EMPIRE OF BASES!