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Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
The BEST study pretty well demolished your lies. And the policy statements of the AGU and GSA are unequivical in their evidence for AGW.
From Joseph Fourier to Tyndall, to Svante Arrhenius, the science has been solid that an increase in GHG's create an increase in heat in the atmosphere. Evidence from the past extinctions indicates that rapid increases from GHG's caused by Trapp Volcanism caused those extinctions. We have rapidly increased the levels of both CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere, over 40% for CO2 and over 250% for CH4.That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.
No, the worst kind of lying is people like you fooling the masses into believing we are causing climate change.
The evidence is irrefutable that we are causing major changes in our climate. Changes that will negatively impact all of us.
Wrong, moron. Computer models don't mean squat. Garbage in, garbage out. As far as historical records of GHG, they show that GHGs follow increases in heat, not the other way around. Man made Global Warming is a scam. That's why all of the people, politicians, and scientists have to lie, coerce, threaten, and belittle those who don't fall in line. Only brainless idiots such as you fall for it.
Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
Didn't finish high school, eh.
Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes
Never said that ever. Why the lies? Why do global warming scientists and believers have to lie all the time?
Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
The BEST study pretty well demolished your lies. And the policy statements of the AGU and GSA are unequivical in their evidence for AGW.
Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes
Read. IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
Donald, you are really behind. Research both sides for yourself and them make a decision.
Scientists are not excluded from the liars' club.That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.
Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
The US-CRN shows we dont have any effect on a major portion of the earths surface.
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In fact, we are cooling, when all the heavily adjusted HCN station data tells us we are warming. Is this the artifact known as UHI? Even the RSS/UAH say were cooling and have been for about 12 years now..
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Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes
Read. IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
Read it when it first came out. Please show us the part that shows actual science and not opinion, or haven't YOU read it yet? On the other hand maybe you don't understand the difference between facts and opinions?
Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes
Read. IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
You're saying everybody's reputation is for sale. Not true!
Not everybody, but there are so few that aren't there for the money and prestige that it makes little difference. For instance, if you publish science that goes against global warming, your career is over. No one is interested in "knowledge" if it kills the cash cow. That is a fact.
Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
The US-CRN shows we dont have any effect on a major portion of the earths surface.
View attachment 53481
In fact, we are cooling, when all the heavily adjusted HCN station data tells us we are warming. Is this the artifact known as UHI? Even the RSS/UAH say were cooling and have been for about 12 years now..
View attachment 53482
The scientific climate experts don't agree with your statements. Read the consensus opinion, not the made up one.
IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes
Read. IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
Read it when it first came out. Please show us the part that shows actual science and not opinion, or haven't YOU read it yet? On the other hand maybe you don't understand the difference between facts and opinions?
The consensus opinion is based on volumes of scientific facts accumulated over centuries. Even Exxon scientists saw it happening back in the fifties as Hartmann's video exposes. This is why their denial and fraudulent statements are criminal.
Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.
Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.
Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says
Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?
That's funny. They can't show a single empirical data set that supports your claim. UHI is a well known effect, however the effect that man has on global temps is little to none. Only in computer models do climatologists show any effect. I will take observed reality over computer derived science fiction any day of the week.
The US-CRN shows we dont have any effect on a major portion of the earths surface.
View attachment 53481
In fact, we are cooling, when all the heavily adjusted HCN station data tells us we are warming. Is this the artifact known as UHI? Even the RSS/UAH say were cooling and have been for about 12 years now..
View attachment 53482
The scientific climate experts don't agree with your statements. Read the consensus opinion, not the made up one.
IPCC Fifth Assessment Synthesis Report
If you ever present substance I will reply with substance.as always that would be you.That might be ok if it were actually happening.since it's not....Sorry, but calls for using government to punish speech you don't like makes me cranky. It's that whole not liking fascist twats thing.
Keep deluding yourself about that.
Nice retort there, hammer. Anything of substance to add, or will you go back to your normal AlGore worship?
Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?
And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.
Lets start by cleaning up your garbage, shall we?
Below are two rates of warming from the Hadcrut3 lower troposphere. One is from the period 1900 through 1950 and the the other is 1951 through 2000. Below each is the rate of warming.
The trend for the period 1900-1950 is 0.51 deg C or 0.103/decade
This trend occurred before CO2 became a rapidly increasing according to the IPCC and is near or is the Natural Variation rate.
The trend for 1951-2000 is 0.50 deg C or 0.100 deg C/decade.
Now, this means that the two rates of warming are statistically insignificant DESPITE the rapid rise in CO2 and equal to NATURAL VARIATION..
So by simple observation we can see the problem with the hypothesis of runaway temp caused by CO2. During the time they claim runway rise it was nothing of the sort and even given the rise in CO2 there was no discernible increase in that natural rise.
LET ME REPEAT; THERE WAS NO DISCERNIBLE INCREASE IN NATURAL TEMPERATURE RISE..... This means the added CO2 IS NOT A FACTOR!
NOW lets look at the last 18 years 8 months where there has been NO WARMING and yet CO2 still rose.
Both show CO2 has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANGES and NATURAL VARIATION CAN BE SHOWN TO BE 100% responsible.
You're saying everybody's reputation is for sale. Not true!
Not everybody, but there are so few that aren't there for the money and prestige that it makes little difference. For instance, if you publish science that goes against global warming, your career is over. No one is interested in "knowledge" if it kills the cash cow. That is a fact.
What cash cow? The climatologist community isn't making any money from this. Just their normal paychecks.
