Enough is enough - use RICO to restore science respect.

[Wyatt earp]

Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?

And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.

Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.

Prove it is man made and then prove how much man contributes

 

[Wyatt earp]

all the usual climate deniers dropped whatever they were doing to comment.

Question is, do they actually believe what they are saying out of ignorance? Or do they work for a fossil fuel company?

Don't tell me you are that ignorant and don't know oil company's spent billions of dollars since the 80s on green energy...

 

[DonaldFG]

Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.

Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.

Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says

Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?

One HUGE glaring error in your OP, well one of many but IMO the most important, you said: "They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge." That is an absolute lie. Scientists are for sale. They always have been and always will be.

You're saying everybody's reputation is for sale. Not true!

 

[depotoo]

Donald, you are really behind. Research both sides for yourself and them make a decision.

LOL@ Truth

All of a sudden in AR5 you have to add in "Warming" that been consumed by the deep oceans just to make your numbers work

LOL

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

Not the point! AR5 and "The hotterest Summa EHAV!!!!!!" are an accounting fiction caused by adding a whole new flexible data set (deep oceans. What was the temperature of the "Deep oceans" 150 years ago?) to the equations

That is simply not true. These are land temperatures. This is the hottest year on record.
Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Even in the US this summer and fall have been way above average except in Alaska. You can feel it yourself wherever you are. It's damn hot. Open your eyes dammit. Global warming is real.

Glowarm and cc have been happening for millions of years. Geological cycles. We're but a pinprick.

The hockey stick statistic has not happened before. Humans are doing this. (Ref: Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth)

 

[Katzndogz]

So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.

That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.

Politicians have always lied to the public. The worst kind of lying has been to foist a hoax like global warming or its climate change incarnation.

That line will be a hit when you are in the water ration line.

Or in the bail out line for rain. Or, the blanket line for snow. Or the storm warning line for storms that don't happen. Oh. Lack of storms is climate change.

It's a hoax. Anyone can see that.

 

[Rustic]

Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?

And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.

Yawn
Global warming is real. The blind close their eyes.

Strongest hurricane ever.
Record El Nino.
Hottest summer ever.
New rainfall records and massive flooding somewhere else every week.

Open you eyes, dammit!

It's cold here today...

Buy more guns and ammo...

 

[koshergrl]

So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.

That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.

Scientists are not excluded from the liars' club.

 

[Uncensored2008]

That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.

IT'S HERESY against the holy church of AGW!

Burn Heretics, BURN...



Cultists, most irrational fuckers on the planet.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The AGWCult is a bigger fraud than Bernie Madoff and SHOULD be procecuted under RICO

We have freedom of religion in this country, even for totally insane fucks like the AGW cult.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

One HUGE glaring error in your OP, well one of many but IMO the most important, you said: "They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge." That is an absolute lie. Scientists are for sale. They always have been and always will be.

LOL! So true.

What the OP is trying to do is what the Left always does. It uses words which bring one connotation, to define something that in no way represents the word they're using.

Take 'liberal' for instance... Liberal is rooted in the latin 'liber'... or freedom. Thus a liberus, or 'liberal' is one that advocates for freedom.

The Ideological Left does not advocate for freedom... it advocates for the separation of the duties or responsibilities that sustain the means of the individual to BE free.

Same goes for "gay". Gay refers to merriment, or festiveness... in the vane of innocence. There's nothing innocent about a sexual deviant. Such is the anti-thesis of innocence.

Therefore, we can rest assured that the Ideological Left is a long train of lies, deceit and fraudulence, advanced for no other reason than as a means to influence the ignorant.

Meaning that the Left is nothing short of: EVIL.

 

[koshergrl]

One HUGE glaring error in your OP, well one of many but IMO the most important, you said: "They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge." That is an absolute lie. Scientists are for sale. They always have been and always will be.

LOL! So true.

What the OP is trying to do is what the Left always does. It uses words which bring one connotation, to define something that in no way represents the word they're using.

Take 'liberal' for instance... Liberal is rooted in the latin 'liber'... or freedom. Thus a liberus, or 'liberal' is one that advocates for freedom.

The Ideological Left does not advocate for freedom... it advocates for the separation of the duties or responsibilities that sustain the means of the individual to BE free.

Same goes for "gay". Gay refers to merriment, or festiveness... in the vane of innocence. There's nothing innocent about a sexual deviant. Such is the anti-thesis of innocence.

Therefore, we can rest assured that the Ideological Left is a long train of lies, deceit and fraudulence, advanced for no other reason than as a means to influence the ignorant.

Meaning that the Left is nothing short of: EVIL.

Yup.

 

[daws101]

So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.

That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.

Politicians have always lied to the public. The worst kind of lying has been to foist a hoax like global warming or its climate change incarnation.

That line will be a hit when you are in the water ration line.

Or in the bail out line for rain. Or, the blanket line for snow. Or the storm warning line for storms that don't happen. Oh. Lack of storms is climate change.

It's a hoax. Anyone can see that.

with all the rubbing alcohol you consume it's obvious you say that.

 

[PredFan]

Corporate control of government has gone too far when scientific research is muted or severely misrepresented. Good government uses science to help determine its policies for the common good. But when corrupted individuals get into positions of power, science reports are covered up and the authors become frustrated, give up and quit, or get laid off.

Most scientists are not rich. They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge. So, they don't have the legal means to protect themselves from powerful corporate interests - unless their government does it for them. Similarly, the rest of us citizens expect the same from our government.

Climate scientists have known for decades that humans are hurting our Earth's environment with emissions from our machines and processes. But their reports have been erroneously and repeatedly dismissed as invalid by corporate powers that depend on continued use of their products for their profit levels, which have been enormous. This action to dismiss real science is illegal, as is any mass misinformation passed to influence the public. Having been frustrated for too long, a group of scientists has written a letter to the White House to prosecute the corporate offenders under the RICO Act. The prosecutor for the tobacco case agrees. Exxon’s Climate Cover-Up Should Be Investigated By DOJ, Tobacco Prosecutor Says

Thom Hartmann explains the criminal evidence. Maybe at last this will restore the respect science deserves. What do you think?

One HUGE glaring error in your OP, well one of many but IMO the most important, you said: "They don't do their type of work for the money, but for the quest for knowledge." That is an absolute lie. Scientists are for sale. They always have been and always will be.

You're saying everybody's reputation is for sale. Not true!

Not everybody, but there are so few that aren't there for the money and prestige that it makes little difference. For instance, if you publish science that goes against global warming, your career is over. No one is interested in "knowledge" if it kills the cash cow. That is a fact.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The AGWCult is a bigger fraud than Bernie Madoff and SHOULD be procecuted nder RICO

Wrong. It's the truth. You can't handle the truth.

LOL@ Truth

All of a sudden in AR5 you have to add in "Warming" that been consumed by the deep oceans just to make your numbers work

LOL

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

Not the point! AR5 and "The hotterest Summa EHAV!!!!!!" are an accounting fiction caused by adding a whole new flexible data set (deep oceans. What was the temperature of the "Deep oceans" 150 years ago?) to the equations

That is simply not true. These are land temperatures. This is the hottest year on record.
Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Even in the US this summer and fall have been way above average except in Alaska. You can feel it yourself wherever you are. It's damn hot. Open your eyes dammit. Global warming is real.

Not even twenty posts in and the bull shit is deep from eviro-wackos and their drones..

SO much science fiction from the left. Global warming (Man Caused) is bull shit! Empirical Evidence shows its a lie.. I have posted it many times..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Wasn't there a headline or two in the last week or so warning of a coming mini ice age?

And that's good because the climate change kooks have been one ice age down since they warned one was on the way 35-40 years ago.

Misinformation is rampant. That is why we need to clean up all the garbage disguised as facts. Those who create fake facts should be held accountable. Global warming is affecting the climate, so what does lying get you? So far the warming oceans are having a huge impact on the weather.

Lets start by cleaning up your garbage, shall we?

Below are two rates of warming from the Hadcrut3 lower troposphere. One is from the period 1900 through 1950 and the the other is 1951 through 2000. Below each is the rate of warming.

The trend for the period 1900-1950 is 0.51 deg C or 0.103/decade

This trend occurred before CO2 became a rapidly increasing according to the IPCC and is near or is the Natural Variation rate.

The trend for 1951-2000 is 0.50 deg C or 0.100 deg C/decade.

Now, this means that the two rates of warming are statistically insignificant DESPITE the rapid rise in CO2 and equal to NATURAL VARIATION..

So by simple observation we can see the problem with the hypothesis of runaway temp caused by CO2. During the time they claim runway rise it was nothing of the sort and even given the rise in CO2 there was no discernible increase in that natural rise.

LET ME REPEAT; THERE WAS NO DISCERNIBLE INCREASE IN NATURAL TEMPERATURE RISE..... This means the added CO2 IS NOT A FACTOR!

NOW lets look at the last 18 years 8 months where there has been NO WARMING and yet CO2 still rose.

Both show CO2 has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CHANGES and NATURAL VARIATION CAN BE SHOWN TO BE 100% responsible.

 

[Billy_Bob]

LOL@ Truth

All of a sudden in AR5 you have to add in "Warming" that been consumed by the deep oceans just to make your numbers work

LOL

Do you think oceans can't absorb heat? Do you understand basic chemistry and physics, energy budget, etc? Do you understand any science whatsoever?

Fact remains ... this year is smashing all record books.

Global warming is real. Feel free to remain ignorant for god only knows what reason.

Not the point! AR5 and "The hotterest Summa EHAV!!!!!!" are an accounting fiction caused by adding a whole new flexible data set (deep oceans. What was the temperature of the "Deep oceans" 150 years ago?) to the equations

That is simply not true. These are land temperatures. This is the hottest year on record.
Climate at a Glance | National Centers for Environmental Information (NCEI)

Even in the US this summer and fall have been way above average except in Alaska. You can feel it yourself wherever you are. It's damn hot. Open your eyes dammit. Global warming is real.

Glowarm and cc have been happening for millions of years. Geological cycles. We're but a pinprick.

The hockey stick statistic has not happened before. Humans are doing this. (Ref: Al Gore's Inconvenient Truth)

The hockey stick (or Hokey Schitck) is an outright fabrication and a lie.. Even a random number generator with the MCV (Mann Correction Vector) applied will show a dam hockey stick.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I dont know what scares me more, The socialist scumbags who think those who dont agree with them should be jailed or killed or the low information vote who sucks their crap up without thinking and are willing to give up our freedoms for the CAGW lie?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Scientists demand obama use RICO act to prosecute global warming deniers. | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

IT seams there are fools who think that use of RICO is a smart thing...

 

[Billy_Bob]

There is only one way for science to regain respect.

They must be open and honest.
They must make all data public.
They must show their work (math, methods, Etc)
They must be transparent and be OPEN TO PUBLIC DEBATE..
They must remember the key roll of the scientific method is to disprove the hypothesis by systematically ruling out all possibilities.
They must remain skeptical of all findings.

The science is NOT SETTLED..

The SCIENCE IS NOT CLEAR because the science has been politicized and is being used for a world domination agenda.

The word "CONSENSUS" is political and not scientific.

Threatening those, who do not agree with your religion, with prison or death is not even funny, we might mistake you for a radical Muslim extremist..

 

[bripat9643]

So now you want to criminalize dissent? How very freedom minded of you.

That's not dissent. That's lying to the mass public - the worst kind of lying.

You have to excuse us if we decline to leave the determination of who's dissenting and who's lying to the likes of you.